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ryanpow
"Did Mick or Keith write the Brown Sugar Riff?" is becoming the next "Taylor Vs. Wood".
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ryanpow
"Did Mick or Keith write the Brown Sugar Riff?" is becoming the next "Taylor Vs. Wood".
I thought even Keith said that Mick wrote it all on his own.
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DandelionPowderman
A D in Brown Sugar? Where??
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ryanpow
"Did Mick or Keith write the Brown Sugar Riff?" is becoming the next "Taylor Vs. Wood".
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ryanpow
"Did Mick or Keith write the Brown Sugar Riff?" is becoming the next "Taylor Vs. Wood".
Brian and Bill wrote the Brown Sugar riff in 1968
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VT22
Poor sound quality, best version ever, imo. Passion and fire.
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Redhotcarpet
This and the 1970 version ends the debate of who plays the Brown Sugar riff. There never was one, I know, but also there can only be one Keith. This is some of Keiths best work. What is it with that guitar sound?! Strings of diamond and hand of steel. Listen to the perfect, 100% perfect timing with that little thump after the opening riff on the high G chord. In that sense its Keiths riff, the way he played it back then tastes real good.
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howled
"I´ve written riffs that people assume are Keith´s. That was the first one I did. I´ve done many since." Mick Jagger 1994
[www.timeisonourside.com]
The very start opening intro pre riff might be a Keith intro add-on, on the recorded version.
Some people, especially non guitar players might not be able to hear or understand what I'm trying to explain, which is fair enough.
Guitar players can easily check what I'm saying by watching Mick's fingers and also by playing along with Mick in the Ike and Tina Turner clip.
The main Brown Sugar riff is in the Mick, Ike and Tina Turner video (open G tuning Eb,C,Ab,Bb,C hope I got the key right) but Mick varies it a bit with 2 Eb,C changes instead of one (Eb,C,Eb,C,Ab,Bb,C) but the next time through the riff, it's the usual Eb,C,Ab,Bb,C.
Mick is playing the riff in a shorter beat way, a more hurried way, that's all.
It's still the Brown Sugar main riff that leads into the verse.
The Stones arrange things in a final way as the song get's recorded or is ready to record.
It's only a casual showing of the song to Ike and Tina but the opening riff, verse (get's changed a bit) and chorus are all there.
Mick also changed the verse to Gold Coast etc etc later on (maybe in the studio) as often happens with Stones songs as they get polished for the final recording.
Mick wrote the riff and the whole song, even Keith says so in his book.
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GravityBoy
Brown Sugar is Gomper backwards.
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howled
If I was Mick and Keith, I would have put only Brian and Bill on the credits for Gomper, and let them take the blame for it
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howled
If I was Mick and Keith, I would have put only Brian and Bill on the credits for Gomper, and let them take the blame for it
Gomper is ace.
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GravityBoy
They also had the tempo right on this one and not the go fast version they did later.
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DandelionPowderman
A D in Brown Sugar? Where??
My mistake about the key.
I was a whole step out.
The home key should be C.
The main riff should be Eb, C, Ab, Bb, C
and the song should be (verse) C, F, C, Bb, C, (chorus) G, C, G, C
I've gone back over my previous posts and edited them and corrected them.
Anyway, everything else I said still stands.
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howled
"I´ve written riffs that people assume are Keith´s. That was the first one I did. I´ve done many since." Mick Jagger 1994
[www.timeisonourside.com]
The very start opening intro pre riff might be a Keith intro add-on, on the recorded version.
Some people, especially non guitar players might not be able to hear or understand what I'm trying to explain, which is fair enough.
Guitar players can easily check what I'm saying by watching Mick's fingers and also by playing along with Mick in the Ike and Tina Turner clip.
The main Brown Sugar riff is in the Mick, Ike and Tina Turner video (open G tuning Eb,C,Ab,Bb,C hope I got the key right) but Mick varies it a bit with 2 Eb,C changes instead of one (Eb,C,Eb,C,Ab,Bb,C) but the next time through the riff, it's the usual Eb,C,Ab,Bb,C.
Mick is playing the riff in a shorter beat way, a more hurried way, that's all.
It's still the Brown Sugar main riff that leads into the verse.
The Stones arrange things in a final way as the song get's recorded or is ready to record.
It's only a casual showing of the song to Ike and Tina but the opening riff, verse (get's changed a bit) and chorus are all there.
Mick also changed the verse to Gold Coast etc etc later on (maybe in the studio) as often happens with Stones songs as they get polished for the final recording.
Mick wrote the riff and the whole song, even Keith says so in his book.
Mesmerizing. I don't care whether Keith wrote the riffs and the hooks. I think Charlie once said that Mick played one of the first versions of Sympathy for him at his house and it was fantastic. The essence of Brown Sugar is there already.
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VT22
Poor sound quality, best version ever, imo. Passion and fire.
This and the 1970 version ends the debate of who plays the Brown Sugar riff. There never was one, I know, but also there can only be one Keith. This is some of Keiths best work. What is it with that guitar sound?! Strings of diamond and hand of steel. Listen to the perfect, 100% perfect timing with that little thump after the opening riff on the high G chord. In that sense its Keiths riff, the way he played it back then tastes real good.
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71Tele
Why the hate for Gomper?
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71Tele
Why the hate for Gomper?
I only heard it for the first time because it was mentioned in this thread.
I knew 2,000 Light Years and She's A Rainbow though, but I havn't listened to the Satanic Majesties album.
I don't hate Gomper, it just sounds very Sitar 60s and goes on too long for me.
I'm not really into that Sitar Flower stuff to be honest.
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ryanpow
Gomper just sounds like something that the Beatles could do better.
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71Tele
Why the hate for Gomper?
I only heard it for the first time because it was mentioned in this thread.
I knew 2,000 Light Years and She's A Rainbow though, but I havn't listened to the Satanic Majesties album.
I don't hate Gomper, it just sounds very Sitar 60s and goes on too long for me.
I'm not really into that Sitar Flower stuff to be honest.
There isn't a sitar on Gomper.
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71Tele
Why the hate for Gomper?
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Green Lady
No, but it sounds as if a sitar would feel right at home there.