QuoteGasLightStreet QuoteHMS You can buy an old car and add new rear view mirrors, a new car-player, a new set of wheels and so on but it will still be an old car. What you fail, effortlessly, to recognize is that that car is not finished. It may've started out in 1972 but wasn't finished until 1981. It's still a new car. That´s a good one, really - You should start to sell
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Quotedoitywoik The interviews I was referring to were printed in mags and newspapers. No internet required. You had to stumble across those interviews almost by accident... Not everyone did read these newspapers/magazines... it also depended on which part of the world you lived... So I still think that most people did not know about the compilation-status of TY. The recording dates should h
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Of all four songs harlem shuffle for sure would have the greatest impact. So call your brothers, sisters uncles and aunts, wake up your neighbours and tell them to vote for Harlem Shuffle!
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QuoteGasLightStreet A new song is a new song when it's released. Even Mick agrees. When it's finished has zero relevance. People like Nico Zentgraf will be delighted to hear that they spent years or even decades doing research and collecting details that are totally irrelevant and their efforts in fact are a senseless, useless waste of time.
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If you are interested in the development of the Stones as artists it is essential to know everything about when a song was recorded, when a song was reworked later on, who played what on each track, when the lyrics were written, who contributed what. If you havn´t got such details you could be easily fooled - as in case of TY. For the longest time people (including me) thought of TY as one of
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QuoteRocky Dijon So the topic of this thread: the long-gestating Stones album, when finally released, will contain a number of tracks that were started by Mick, Matt, and Charlie in 2011. Therefore, the new Stones album will not be a new studio album, but a compilation of old songs finally finished since you're clearly a "bottoms" man. No. It would not be a compilation becaus
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QuoteGasLightStreet QuotePalace Revolution 2000 It is crazy for audience members to decide what is new. When exactly is the cutoff between new and not new? The artists decides at some point that a certain song rings his bell, and that he feels the need to complete and release. It could all be written that morning and recorded, mixed and mastered the same day; or it could be rumbling in the back
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You can buy an old car and add new rear view mirrors, a new car-player, a new set of wheels and so on but it will still be an old car.
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QuoteGasLightStreet A new song is a new song when it's released. Even Mick agrees. When it's finished has zero relevance. Wrong oh so very wrong... and i dont care what Mick says when I know I am right. A recently finished eight years old song isn´t a new song. It´s an old song finally finsished. That is clear for anyone to see.
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QuoteGasLightStreet About half of EOMS was similar to TY. I don´t think EOMS contains material recorded almost a decade before it was released.
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Quotekeefriffhard4life maybe its just me but I always looked at thing like let it bleed-exile as a set of sessions and GHS-ER as a set of sessions and TY closing the chapter on the GHHS-ER sessions. that's why I think of it as an album and not a compilation ...anyway you put it... technically TY is a compilation of old and not-so-old material with new layers of paint here and there. The pr
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QuoteGasLightStreet Since this unreleased new album that isn't finished and is apparently still stuck on the wall according to one blabbering critic, this album will only be a new compilation by the time it's released next December, since it was started in December of 2015. So no new Stones album, just another compilation. I thought about that and the answer is no, you´re wrong. T
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Quotekeefriffhard4life btw I just want to say the songs on TY were not 100% finished and just slap dashed on to the album. there are overdubs from the early 80's on a lot of the tunes Yes, they polished up songs mostly from way-back-when and sold them as brandnew and didn´t tell us about the origins of most of the stuff on TY.
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QuoteGasLightStreet FACT: TATTOO YOU is not a compilation. Just like VOODOO LOUNGE, it consists of songs recorded in recording studios. As it has been unnecessarily established, except for your complete inadequateness, it doesn't matter when they were done, they're still new when they are released, partially because they've never been heard before. It does matter. What about
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QuoteGasLightStreet QuoteHMS QuoteGasLightStreet All the songs on TATTOO YOU were finished in 1981, making them... new songs... because they were finished. You´re Wrong, wrong, helplessly wrong all over... finishing an old song does not make it automatically a new song. Plundered My Soul isn´t a new song, it´s a finished old song (at best). Worried About You wasn´t a new song in 1981 it was
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Harlem Shuffle would be great.
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I think someone on this board once said that the re-broadcast was never bootlegged.
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QuoteWinning Ugly VXII The only tolerable modern version of "Miss You" since 1982 were the four 2002 / 2003 versions clocking in at just under 6 minutes. The one in Italy may have been the best of them. Performed only 4 times on that entire tour out of more than 100 shows ..... after not being performed at all in '99. You are a walking enzyclopedia If audiences survived
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QuoteGasLightStreet All the songs on TATTOO YOU were finished in 1981, making them... new songs... because they were finished. You´re Wrong, wrong, helplessly wrong all over... finishing an old song does not make it automatically a new song. Plundered My Soul isn´t a new song, it´s a finished old song (at best). Worried About You wasn´t a new song in 1981 it was an finished old song. You mi
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QuoteGasLightStreet Compilations consist of PREVIOUSLY RELEASED MATERIAL NO. That´s not an excuse for TY. A compilation might as well consist of previously unreleased material. As a matter of fact Metamorphosis is a compilation of previously unreleased material. Bruce Springsteen´s Tracks is a compilation of previously unreleased material,TY is a compilation of previously unreleased (updat
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QuoteGasLightStreet It makes no difference when tracks are recorded. Not to you but to me and millions of others. As a part of an artists credibility the liner notes of an album should always include recording dates. Especially in case of TY compiling songs from 1972-81. It is a matter of honesty.
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You can call TY a compilation or an (updated) archive release for good reasons but you never can call it a "new album" for good reasons. GLS just does not want to confess that one of his favorite albums isn´t really an album (of new songs) but a compilation (of old songs) hence all this hair-splitting. I think we ve done this once before, a few years ago. btw if the stones dont h
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Quotekeefriffhard4life I agree they should bring back almost hear you sigh. It was super-boring when I heard that song live in 1990. Bring back Undercover followed by Harlem Shuffle and the crowd will go wild. I hope they skip awful Angie. They should do Let It Loose.
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One Hit To The Body would enrich any compilation. Maybe they are just afraid of Jimmy Page knocking at their doors asking for money. They played that wonderful song a couple of times during SW/Urban Jungle 1989/90 but never managed to get it right. Probably they have given in too soon. Practice makes perfect.
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QuoteGasLightStreet What 2 new songs are on TATTOO YOU? Dont know. This is what wikipedia says (maybe it´s rubbish): Along with two new songs, the Rolling Stones put together this collection to have a new album to promote for their worldwide American Tour 1981/European Tour 1982 beginning that September.
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QuoteGasLightStreet Nothing on TY was "reworked". What would be classified as "reworked" would be if they took the masters from THEIR SATANIC MAJESTIES REQUEST and updated them with new instrumentation and vocals and changed things. The Stones have never done that post-release. There for, every studio album they've released has been of new original news upon relea
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QuoteGasLightStreet Brown Sugar recorded in 1969... and worked on in 1970... but by your flat earthing, STICKY FINGERS is a compilation album because when it was released it wasn't "new" anymore. No one would say SF is a compilation album because Brown Sugar was recorded in 1969. But in case of TY we have half of the "album" originally recorded in the early-mid-70
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QuoteGasLightStreet Album: a collection of songs released on a format such as vinyl, compact disc or download. Also known as a Long Player, regardless of format. Start Me Up is on their last great LP, which is a studio album comprised (aka compiled) of studio recordings. If you want to call TATTOO YOU a compilation, then all of their albums are compilations... of tracks they recorded, when
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We have been fooled with this release. It should have had a sticker saying: "contains two new songs and re-worked previously unreleased material from 1972-80" It is a compilation of polished old material. Marketing this compilation as a new studio album is like selling a used car with new paint as brandnew. It is not honest. On my shelve it sits seperated from their original studi
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It depends on the amount of newly written and/or recorded material. EOMS (and other albums) have lots of new songs and were recorded as a band. In case of TY there is not enough newly written/recorded material to call it a regular album and apart from MJ the other band members were hardly involved in the production of TY. It is a compilation of reworked previously unreleased material - just like
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