QuoteDandelionPowderman If you hear him, can you tell when he's audible? Sorry I don't understand? There was some dispute over whether he is on this track apart from the end solo. I always liked the strange textures in the background of the released version and was convinced it was Taylor, even though it sounds like an electric piano part or maybe backing vocals. Hearing the demo vers
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QuoteDandelionPowderman QuoteFP I was always a big fan of Taylor's stunning melodic solos on Sticky Fingers and Goats Head Soup, 2 albums where there is a clear division between the lead and rhythm guitars of Taylor and Richards. When I first heard Exile I was a bit disappointed; I loved the songs but missed the solos. It was always a more dense and difficult album to define who played what,
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QuoteMathijs QuoteDandelionPowderman QuoteRobberBride QuoteDandelionPowderman He probably didn't. Wasn't his track audible on the Nicky Hopkins-mixes, btw? Yeah you hear more of his sliding doublestops (or whatever its called)earlier in the track, but not more of the solo at the end. That's what I thought, thanks! So, Taylor's track is probably the third guitar track (af
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I read somewhere that Mick Taylor said something to the effect that he wrote all the ballads when he was in the Stones. I presume this is based on his collaborations with Jagger on songs like Moonlight Mile, Time Waits for No One and Shine a Light where Keith was barely present at the session but still got a songwriting credit. I was interested to see if there was any truth to this or it was just
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Just saw on another old thread that Mick Taylor is not on Ventilator Blues part from the solo at the end. I think someone else on this thread mentioned it but I did not realise that he only played the solo. The other thread says Taylor was surprised to have the credit given to him as he had hardly anything to do with the song and had contributed more (and expected credit) for other tunes but not
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QuoteHis Majesty QuoteFP It depends if you view their original music as being the peak or the later developments. In many ways their original RnB covers are "The Stones" to many people, fans from the beginning. For later or younger fans the Taylor years are the culmination of everything they were seemingly aiming for. Overall I think the original band was probably the more experimenta
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QuoteHis Majesty Taylor was nowhere near the level, technically or knowledge of theory wise as McLauchlin etc. He would really have had to practicsed and studied hard to reach that level of musicianship. The ability was clearly there though and he could have reached that level had he really wanted to. I agree. I sometimes feel he was just naturally talented and did not have to try to hard o
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QuoteHis Majesty QuoteFP To me Let is Bleed is the purest vision of the Stones music. The purest stones music would be the music made by all of the core five or six original/professional band members without any outside musicians. Brian, Stu, Keith, Mick, Bill, Charlie. It depends if you view their original music as being the peak or the later developments. In many ways their original R
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QuoteLoudei So Exile is a Keith Richards induced record? No Taylor on most tracks? As DandilionPowerman said: No Taylor at all on Let It Loose, Sweet Black Angel,Loving Cup or Happy. He plays bass on Torn & Frayed, I Just Wanna See His Face, Tumbling Dice Debatable if he is on Turd On The Run or Rocks off but I think he is. But it is a double album with lots of songs and remember
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Quotenightskyman Quote71Tele Quotedrbryant One of the greatest aspects of Exile is the dense mix, with the buried vocals, and the wonderful instrumental parts that emerge out of nowhere only to disappear back in the mix. It's the sound of a great eight-man rock ensemble at the very peak of their powers. Taylor's contributions on Exile are great - I can't see worrying about his ab
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QuoteBellajane But wasn't that the route he wanted to go, jazz and blues, before he joined the Rolling Stones? At least that is what I've read many times; that was what his first wife has said. I also read that he was taking classical guitar lessons (don't know if that is true, either). I think he was at a "crossroads" in his life when he made the decision to join the S
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I was interested by comments Charlie Watts made that he thought Mick Taylor should have created a jazz fusion band with Billy Cobham after he left the Stones. Of course he joined Jack Bruce's band which covered a lot of ground musically but does anyone think Mick T could have become a fusion superstar with the right players and a bit of luck? I never felt he was that good a fit with Bruce�
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I always wondered about Ginger Baker and Eric Clapton's arrangement abilities with the Bruce/Brown tunes they worked with. It seems strange that Bruce would go from top ten hits and the ability to write concise riff driven tunes to as a solo artist much more complex and elusive work that I think was very unlikely to do well commercially. Of course artists develop but I always saw Bruce'
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I think EOMS is seen as the purest essence of what Keith saw as the Stones sound. Also Jagger's contribution to what we see as Exiles concept should not be underestimated. He may not have originated this approach but he created tunes and lyrics which perfectly meshed with Keith's musical vision. The question remains however if Keith's vision of what the Stones were about is necessa
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I actually just remembered seeing the video ages ago of them writing and rehearsing Sympathy for the Devil in a film called One Plus One. It has lots of annoying segments in-between the recording session film but the actual session is very interesting. The songs starts as a sort of blues with Jagger on acoustic then transforms into a slow samba before Keith kicks Bill off bass and the song cl
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Quoteduke richardson QuoteDandelionPowderman Keith only plays bass on Heartbreaker... well its funky but not as funky as Monkey Man.. (FP-had to say that, I'm agreeing with you..) Monkey Man is THE funkiest stones song for me ha ha!
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Quoteduke richardson no I don't think you can take Andy Johns' remark and characterize Keith's studio behavior so generally. and your example of Heartbreaker- well that song has got some of the funkiest wah wah guitar the Stones ever recorded..Keith? anyway Black And Blue is maybe an album where your point hold up. it has some unusually lifeless material, in my opinion. some
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I read a Nick Kent article about the Stones in the late 70's. In it engineer Andy Johns complains that Keith Richards would have a great track but then go over and over it with the band until all the life left it. He is referring to the GHS and B&B albums I think. I was interested to know if anyone has more details on this and the reasons why? Was Keith a perfectionist in the studio? Did
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1 - Rocks Off 2 - Loving Cup 3 - Turd on The Run 4- Tumbling Dice 5 - Happy If EOMS was a single album the tracks I would choose would be: 1 - Rocks off 2 - Torn and Frayed 3 - Tumbling Dice 4 - Sweet Virginia 5 - Happy 6 - All Down the Line 7 - Sweet Black Angel 8 - Turd on the Run 9 - Loving Cup 10 - Shine a Light
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QuoteDandelionPowderman QuoteFP I was always a big fan of Taylor's stunning melodic solos on Sticky Fingers and Goats Head Soup, 2 albums where there is a clear division between the lead and rhythm guitars of Taylor and Richards. When I first heard Exile I was a bit disappointed; I loved the songs but missed the solos. It was always a more dense and difficult album to define who played what,
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Quotekleermaker QuoteFP I do think the Stones only really let Taylor cut loose on a few occasions such as Sway and Can't You Hear Me Knocking. I think it is interesting that some of Taylor's freest playing is on Goat's Head Soup where Keith seemed to be hardly present due to his drug problems.Having said that, while it is great to hear lengthy solos on Winter and 100 Years Ago ther
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@ kleermaker I don't think any of those songs are boring, far from it. I was referring more to GHS as an overall album. It has some great songs but it just does not have a glue holding it together. It seems that the clavinet and organ play the role that Keith's guitar should have done. I agree they are not straight up 10 minute jams but they apart from Moonlight Mile they all have mor
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Who do you think plays the faint fills in the background of Rocks Off? I always though it was Taylor as the guitar has the same tone as the start of the solo at the end. There is a fill with the distant reverbed sound then the solo seems to come from this guitar but the reverb is removed leavign a dryer sound as the rest of the band fades out. Saying that is could be Richards or maybe an electric
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I do think the Stones only really let Taylor cut loose on a few occasions such as Sway and Can't You Hear Me Knocking. I think it is interesting that some of Taylor's freest playing is on Goat's Head Soup where Keith seemed to be hardly present due to his drug problems.Having said that, while it is great to hear lengthy solos on Winter and 100 Years Ago there is a lack of tension d
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I was always a big fan of Taylor's stunning melodic solos on Sticky Fingers and Goats Head Soup, 2 albums where there is a clear division between the lead and rhythm guitars of Taylor and Richards. When I first heard Exile I was a bit disappointed; I loved the songs but missed the solos. It was always a more dense and difficult album to define who played what, being a rhythm based album with
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