Quotejp.M The long version HAD to be on "Now" but I have read somewhere that the confusion came from Chris Shrimpton who confused the two recorded reels... It seems very likely, that the Short Version was used by some kind of mistake, - and that is the reason why Andrew Loog Oldham used the Long Version on Old Abkco - "Now" in 1986, - because that was the way it originally
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The arrival of a Mexican copy of UK-No 2, - with True Stereo ENSTL reminded me of this thread. It holds the same version as UK "Rock´n´Rolling Stones" - 5.07 - with the characteristic little "jump" in the very last second. I thought this could be a reason for a little summary of the diffrent releases and productions. ENSTL exist in two versions - 2 different takes. One
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Quotealimente QuoteHenrikBB Quotealimente QuoteDandelionPowderman No. The regular long version is on No 2 (5:00) and a shortened version of that one (3:00) is on the Now vinyl release. This is a different version. On the regular version there isn't as much falsetto singing, different guitars and Keith's backing/harmony isn't as audible. Thanks for your reply and thanks for
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Quotealimente QuoteDandelionPowderman No. The regular long version is on No 2 (5:00) and a shortened version of that one (3:00) is on the Now vinyl release. This is a different version. On the regular version there isn't as much falsetto singing, different guitars and Keith's backing/harmony isn't as audible. Thanks for your reply and thanks for posting the "cassette
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QuoteDandelionPowderman It's a weird release, and the tracklist order is totally different. It's american: ABKCO (ACT 4204) Wow ! - Thanks for instant response ! Very interesting ! - this calls for further investigation !
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QuoteDandelionPowderman Quotealimente QuoteDandelionPowderman The Now cassette version (aka the third version). Never heard about that one! What's the difference to the other two versions - a totally different (3rd) take or just mixing/editing differences? Sorry about the late reply. I have transferred the cassette version now. Here it is: RIP Prince ! ! ! So Sad indeed ! ! !
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Quoteblivet I'm repeating myself, but Abkco ought to re-release the radio station promo album for Record Store Day. It's even got an RSD stock number, for crying out loud. There was a commercial "collector's item" release in Australia in 2005, so it's not as if the idea has never occurred to anyone. It’s not very likely with a re-release of The Promotional Albun, L
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Nice info indeed ! Thank You ! I have just seen that the counterfeit actually has a listing on Discogs, - contributed by Dieter Hoffmann, - and he adds the info, that both Side A & Side B plays Stereo.
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Great track ! - with Very few releases. Only one version seems to have been released officially, - but as the single was Mono - and later came on CD (“Singles 1965-1967” and the “In Mono box”) it had an Electronically Re Processed Stereo release in 1973 on “ No Stone Unturned”. Same production can also be found on 1974 Japan compilation “Discover Stones” This ERPS-production is actually
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Honestly . . . What’s the Big fuzz . . . ? Here in Denmark the 2 CD + BlueRay is sold for € 21.50 in my local recordshop . . .
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QuoteValeswood Fortune Teller is also on The Rolling Stones Story - Part 2 (The Rest Of The Best) which is a four LP box set from 1983/1984. Not sure which version it is though. Absolutely right ! On “The Rest Of The Best” it is #1 - Mono, - just like it is on “Collectors Only” and Japan compilation “A Rolling Stone Gathers No Moss”
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Quoteironbelly QuoteHenrikBB The Old Abkco GLIYWI has #2 with a pretty sudden ending at 1:53, - and this version was also used on the 2002 DSD release of GLIYWI, they are both Mono. I always wonder why those CDs, both old ABKCO 1986 GLIYWI and ABKCO 2002 GLIYWI, are called mono. To my ears they are not mono but rather bad electronically processed stereo. There are tons of artifacts and phase
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Great thread, - that made me curious, as I never really paid Fortune Teller much attention. I am really surprised that so many versions/combinations exist on official releases . . . Blueturns2grey nails it with his #1 & #2 #1 longer version (roughly 2:16) with harmonica and repetition of last two lines. #2 shorter version (roughly 2:06) lot of tambourine, no harmonica and no repeat.
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QuoteBlueTurns2Grey There was a single in 1970 with the Ya-Ya's version, the japanese 7" from 1972 was an edit (4.07) of Ya-Ya's. There is also a japanese SACD issue that mistakenly had a shorter song intro, afaik. Interesting ! Do you mean that this Short-intro Little Queenie also exist on SACD, - or are you referring to the Short-intro Stray Cat Blues - ?
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Quoteexilestones It was a Japanese single with a different mix. Same performance. I have this London TOP-1601 in my collection, because of the short intro . . . It starts in the middel of it, - (probably made by mistake), and have made an A/B comparison with LPs and CD’s. I really don’t think it’s a different mix . . . . In general I find it hard to compare 7” vinyl from the 60’es with
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Quotedeardoctortake1 Quoteexilestones There was a single that was a little different. I don't recall any difference in the single. what did you notice? Maybe you are thinking of, - that on Japanese single, most of the intro is missing . . . ?
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QuoteBig Al QuoteHenrikBB QuoteBig Al It seems that all their pre-1966 stereo-mixes are scattered all over the place. It’d be nice if all their ‘true’ stereo-mixes from this period were to be compiled officially. Many of them are no-longer available. * I state ‘pre-1966’, as it is my understanding that the U.K. DECCA version of Aftermath represented their first ‘true stereo’ album. The London
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QuoteBig Al It seems that all their pre-1966 stereo-mixes are scattered all over the place. It’d be nice if all their ‘true’ stereo-mixes from this period were to be compiled officially. Many of them are no-longer available. * I state ‘pre-1966’, as it is my understanding that the U.K. DECCA version of Aftermath represented their first ‘true stereo’ album. The London release, I believe, is the
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All tracks on “Now” - Stereo, London PS 420 are in Electronically Re-Processed Stereo . . . . None in Mono - none in True Stereo. Yes, - the Chess recordings were recorded in True Stereo, - but had that strange fate on many early releases, - that they were folded down to Mono - and then produced in ERPS ! The quality is mildly spoken dubious ! ! !
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QuoteDocChill ...it's really an official record! You could download it at "Rolling Stones Archive Store" around 2012 to 2014. Here you'll find all informations you need! Later a limited 3LP/DVD set was available, which I bought also. Maybe you'll have luck on eBay or similar . Best regards, DocChill It really seems like this album never had an official physic
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Quotebmandolini The 12x5 album was released in two versions: MONO LL 3402 and STEREO PS 402. I wanted to ask if they were released on the same day, precisely on October 17th, and if all the songs included in the STEREO version are really in stereo. Thank you None of the tracks on the original LONDON PS 402 release were in True Stereo. They were all in Electronically Re Processed Stereo (ERPS)
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. . . But note, that with the exception of the dedicated mono-mix of SFTD, - which is identical to the original vinyl Mono release, - the rest of the tracks are running faster than original, - matching the 2002 DSD release of BB. So the Mono-CD and the original Mono-LP are two different creatures . . .
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Just additional : There seems to exist 4 faded, - and one true edit of SFTD. The faded edits cronological : Spain 1970. 7” promo, Decca P-3. Ends 4:08. Starts fading at “so if you . . .” It plays Mono, - probably folddown, - as it is not the Mono-Mix. Germany 1974. 7” Decca DL 25 610. Ends 3:52. Starts fading at “just as every . .” Germany 1977. 7” Decca 6.12148. Ends 4.44, - starts f
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Actually “Under The Radar” did have an official audio-only release, - on a 7-track Virgin Records promo-CDr called ““Rain Fall Down” (All Tracks)” 2005. The same with “Bob Wills Is Still The King”, “Learning The Game”, “Night Time (is the right time)” & “Mr. Pitfull”, which all are on a Universal Music promo-CDr from 2007. It’s titled “The Rolling Stones - Sampler”, and has a 5. track,
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I think all of those Mono-promos are only available on the 7” vinyls. The latest produced, seems to be “Time Is On My Side” - live, - from Still Life - in 1982. (The Mono/Stereo promo is not easy to find, - the majority of the promo’s are Stereo/stereo)
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Quotetioms On innersleeve is mentioned: HANDLING" and "PLAYING" the record. Made in England British patent No. 800513 Forogein patents pending Inner is inside with plastic. Ahh - Nice with factory inners from the release time ! Jan Richardsson has a great chapter on Decca inners on “Stones On Decca”
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Quotetioms I've 3 Rolling Stones MONO Decca LK 4605 with short "TELL ME" 1) side 1/2 1A-1A with: I NEED YOU BABY Original inner 2) side 1/2 2A-1A with: I NEED YOU BABY Original inner 3) side 1/2 2A-1A with: MONA Original inner Greets, tioms, Not on E-bay Fantastic collec
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Definately a serie worth to collect, as the early albums are in a unique Electronically Re Processed Stereo-production, that must have been made for the occasion. The quality of this can for sure be debated, - pretty “noisy” - with a lot of reverb . . but interesting ! The Jacques Leblanc-serie is Mono on those albums.
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“(Can’t Seem To) Get A Line On You” - Shine A Light-outtake on Leon Russels “24 Karat Gold Compact Disc” 1993
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Quoteironbelly Quotealexander paul I noticed at Side 1 the medley I'm alright-Everybody needs somebody to love (2:54) and that puzzles me. What was the origin of this track and where has it been released elsewhere? Alex. Most probably, that is a 'Frankenstein' from Got Live EP. But somebody who owns original Japanese LP can give you better answer. Yes, this IS a Frankenstein-t
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