If I remember correctly, the same guy or other guy from the same pathetic band (that's my opinion about TS), a few years ago said the Stones SHOULD use more musicians, "as Pink Floyd did", because they are old (he also said that Led Zeppelin was a nauseus live band in 1975). Now he says that the Stones ALREADY use backing guitarist. Great, the Stones followed his advice... In t
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London, 1995 Athens, 1998 Paris, 2003 Prague, 2003 Milan, 2006 Porto, 2006 Barcelona, 2007 Budapest, 2007 Rome, 2014, Barcelona, 2017 Paris, 2017 Edinburgh, 2018 Prague, 2018 Milan, 2022 Total, 14 times. Not enough!...
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RIP Shirley. Sad news...
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Cool...
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Thanks for the info, Doxa! Considering the general level of sales, in each era, "Blue and Lonesome" and "ABB" were clearly more successful than some albums of 70s...
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Yes, I just saw the numbers on Wikipedia too. But they did ... wrong addition and they gave wrong total number of attendance (665,602 instead of 712, 541). So we have average attendance 50,895, including a small venue (Berlin), by these prices. Not bad at all...
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Thanks folks!
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I suppose georgelicks knows...
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Despite their age, the Stones sounded really good once again (I mean the entire Sixty Tour, of course). That would NOT happen, if Ronnie was bad. Ronnie's playing was sufficient or even better, overall. He was doing what he had to do. I judge Ronnie by his general contribution, not by "moments". All musicians have weak moments on stage, Mick included. All musicians, even those who
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I had been reader of IORR forum many years before I joined the site. I remember Mathijs saying "I'm done with the Stones" (or something like that) during ABB tour. Glad to see another Mathijs review, 15 years later! Finally, the Stones are rolling in our blood. Period.
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I think that, if some fans were judging the gigs of the "golden era" by their current criteria, by this spirit of "now I'm noting moments of sloopiness, now I'm counting mistakes", then many nights of 1978 and 1981 tours could be considered as "mediocre", if not "horrible" rounds... The Stones still put on a hell of a show - yes, at the age o
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Thanks, MAF!
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Is the capacity of this stadium 40,000, as IORR says? It seems like a typical 50,000 - 55,000 stadium...
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I remember another Stones concert that took place next day after Mick's birthday - and it was his 60th birthday. Prague 2003. I didn't imagine, then, the band putting on such great gigs, after 19 years... Fortunately, they still can do it and they do it!
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I ment not less than 18, of course...
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I remember them playing 19 songs in 2003. so, 18 songs (still two hours gigs), at their 79, under heat waves, that isn't big deal for me. (But, please, not less than 19, right Mick, Keith and Ronnie ?)
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"I feel like sometimes people are judging Keith more based on how he looks on stage rather than how he plays". That's right, RaiseTheKnife... But, IMO, people who judge Keith by this criterion are bacically among the so called "hard core" fans, let's say among the "all time complaining" ... wing of IORR forum... Out there, people seem to judge things
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+34C until midnight ??!!! I only can remember a hotter show day, in Budapest, 2007... It was hotter, wasn't it?
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"I think you guys exaggerate a bit when it comes to the difference between the concerts. Judging from videos, I also thought that Brussels was better than Amsterdam (especially Keith seemed more vital and energetic), but Amsterdam wasn't such a lackluster concert that some people here claim it to be (...) In my perception, the differences are there but not that extreme." Agree
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As Charlie once said (on"25 X 5" Documentary, parhaps ?), he thought that the whole party would be over after six months... But it lasts for 60 years... That's amazing!
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"to compare pre and post 1989 setlists in terms of variety is not a very strong argument for obvious reasons." Fine, maumau... According the statisics I just saw, on the entire B2B Tour (97 gigs) they played 62 different songs. And in 1997-98 they were performing 21 - 23 songs on each show, not 19. Make the comparisons.
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Yes GJV, in 1978 they were playing 6 or 7 tracks (and 8 maybe, on some nights) from "Some Girls". And many fans were complaining for that, then, considering the tour as "just for promotion tour"... As we know, in every era "Stonesland" includes different complaints and different points of criticism...
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Speaking about variety of setlists: If I estimate correctly, after 8 gigs they have performed 35 different songs. Two more than the total number of the entire 1978 tour (25 concerts)- just an example from the so called "glory years", as a yardstick...
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"Be careful, the sound is only good if the version is awesome. If the version is even the slightest bit critical, the sound is not good enough to judge." Sorry to say that, powerage 78, but I 'm afraid that your sense of humour becomes obsessed and a bit tiresome. And no, I don't believe that every new Stones gig is "the best ever" (to prevent your ironic obsess
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Cool...
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Totally agree, Justin and TheBlockbuster, as for Ronnie. My thoughts, too...
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vertigojoe wrote: (1) "Really bizarre guitar levels at times. Like watching Shine a light (...) I thought both played really poorly last night compared to Anfield". Judging by the clips ( I wasn't there), my impression is different. (2) "Maybe they don’t play Brown Sugar anymore because out of all Keith’s signature intro’s that’s the one he can’t pull off anymore
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Honestly, I can't understand those who say that the version of YGMR was weak... It was a very strong and energetic version.
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All of us have our own personal preferences ("this song is better than the other", etc), but the fact is that the Stones played twice in the same city/venue and they probably wanted to "offer" some changes. They did it. PS: Bjorn, we totally agree on the issue "Dylan"...
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Pop song ?? The Stones did this ?? I don't think so...
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