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Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: wiredallnight ()
Date: February 25, 2020 17:08

Source 1: "Secret Affair" VGP-225, 50%
Source 2: "Cow Skins And Pig Shoes" Dandelion DL 117/18, 50%

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2020-02-25 17:18 by wiredallnight.

Re: Post: London, Shephers's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: Andrea82 ()
Date: February 25, 2020 17:11

Thanks!

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: February 25, 2020 17:36

Thanks for the rework! it might somewhat erase the huge disappointment I had when I first heard this "special" gig back in 99.

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: mariano ()
Date: February 25, 2020 18:06

THANK YOU!!!

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: adrian1958 ()
Date: February 25, 2020 18:19

I went to the Shepherds Bush show and left feeling underwhelmed. Just thought they were bang average. No band energy even though the set list was sort of half decent
Bob Geldof stood with me during the 2nd half of the gig having spent the 1st half up in the balcony.I remember some crowd trouble between the punters & the film crew right at the end of the show which livened up proceedings.

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: February 25, 2020 18:47

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adrian1958
I went to the Shepherds Bush show and left feeling underwhelmed.

Didn't Keef blow one or many amps during that one?
Imo overall the whole 99 European "tour" is one to forget. They were so good in the U.S. that the European gigs were notably lesser.

@ wiredallnight :

have you thought of matrixing another gig? Mannheim'73! There are two recordings (OBR boot and Dime "1st gen" torrent), each one having some flaws but they run at the correct speed.

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: adrian1958 ()
Date: February 25, 2020 20:53

Yeah your right he did blow a couple of amps which didn't help proceedings

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: Tonstone ()
Date: February 25, 2020 21:20

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dcba
Quote
adrian1958
I went to the Shepherds Bush show and left feeling underwhelmed.

Didn't Keef blow one or many amps during that one?
Imo overall the whole 99 European "tour" is one to forget. They were so good in the U.S. that the European gigs were notably lesser.

@ wiredallnight :

have you thought of matrixing another gig? Mannheim'73! There are two recordings (OBR boot and Dime "1st gen" torrent), each one having some flaws but they run at the correct speed.

Agree loved the No Security 1999 US Tour. I would not say the whole European Tour of 1999 was one to forget. They were fantasic in Edinburgh.One of the best shows I have been to.

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: Erik_Snow ()
Date: February 25, 2020 21:57

1999 European Tour.....that's when Dieter Hoffman decided to bury Basement News.

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: britstones ()
Date: February 26, 2020 04:31

Thank you for your labour of love.

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: frankotero ()
Date: February 26, 2020 07:05

Stuttgart '99 remains my favorite of 58 concerts I've been to. Imst was pretty good too I think. Anyhow, I would love to hear a better sounding No Security show than Stuttgart. Whoever recorded that one deserves an award.

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: wiredallnight ()
Date: February 26, 2020 11:02

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dcba

@ wiredallnight :

have you thought of matrixing another gig? Mannheim'73! There are two recordings (OBR boot and Dime "1st gen" torrent), each one having some flaws but they run at the correct speed.

No I haven't. My problem is that I am not a specialist at all for doing matrixes. I am not even 100% happy with this one I posted here. I use Adobe Audition to mix the tracks, but if their speed is not 100% the same I am already clueless... So, if someone of the guys who do great matrixes here could give some information how to do it, which software to use, etc. it would be very helpful.

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: Quique-stone ()
Date: February 26, 2020 16:21

Thanks wiredallnight!

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: falo01 ()
Date: February 27, 2020 11:27

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wiredallnight
Quote
dcba

@ wiredallnight :

have you thought of matrixing another gig? Mannheim'73! There are two recordings (OBR boot and Dime "1st gen" torrent), each one having some flaws but they run at the correct speed.

No I haven't. My problem is that I am not a specialist at all for doing matrixes. I am not even 100% happy with this one I posted here. I use Adobe Audition to mix the tracks, but if their speed is not 100% the same I am already clueless... So, if someone of the guys who do great matrixes here could give some information how to do it, which software to use, etc. it would be very helpful.

I may have a look into this show. Since I live in Mannheim, it makes a lot of sense, lol.

1999 isn't that old but with much older recordings you always have sync issues.
The problem is that it's almost impossible to find micro issues and to find out which recording is running too slow or too fast.
I use Dart XP Pro to SEE sync issues that are impossible to work on if you only hear them.
I end up splitting the recording in many 20sec-1min parts and sync them one by one to get them in sync.
It's a pretty time consuming work.

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: February 27, 2020 17:05

"It's a pretty time consuming work"
Yes it must be.
But (newbie question) linking two (1999) digital recordings must be relatively easy as they should run exactly at the same speed. Or do digital have their own inner "clock"?

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: wiredallnight ()
Date: February 27, 2020 19:39

Quote
dcba
"It's a pretty time consuming work"
Yes it must be.
But (newbie question) linking two (1999) digital recordings must be relatively easy as they should run exactly at the same speed. Or do digital have their own inner "clock"?

Yes indeed. But there is always a slight difference possible due to inaccuracy of the recording gear. So I have always mixed only 2 or 3 tracks at once in the matrix posted above.

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: falo01 ()
Date: February 27, 2020 20:52

Quote
wiredallnight
Quote
dcba
"It's a pretty time consuming work"
Yes it must be.
But (newbie question) linking two (1999) digital recordings must be relatively easy as they should run exactly at the same speed. Or do digital have their own inner "clock"?

Yes indeed. But there is always a slight difference possible due to inaccuracy of the recording gear. So I have always mixed only 2 or 3 tracks at once in the matrix posted above.

yes, little corrections still have to be done, but they are minor if the sources are digital. It's a completely different game with old analog stuff.



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Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: dennycranium ()
Date: February 28, 2020 17:14

Many thanks

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: einte ()
Date: February 28, 2020 23:35

Thank You !

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: Tonstone ()
Date: February 29, 2020 09:05

Thank you thumbs up.

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: Justin ()
Date: March 27, 2020 23:37

Would someone have this please?

The file I downloaded stops after Route 66...same with everyone else?

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: Bol ()
Date: March 29, 2020 12:20

Here you go Justin

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Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: Captain Teague ()
Date: March 29, 2020 12:51

Thanks Bol, I missed this when wiredallnight first shared it.

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: Captain Teague ()
Date: March 30, 2020 14:25

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adrian1958
even though the set list was sort of half decent



I think it was a great setlist and was definitely one for the real fans. I Got The Blues, Melody, Brand New Car and Moon Is Up would be completely lost on a stadium crowd. I don't remember there being a lack of energy but I wasn't there to analyse and be critical. This was the Rolling Stones in a club and it was a privilege to be there.

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: Justin ()
Date: April 16, 2020 08:49

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Bol
Here you go Justin

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Bol! I missed your post. The thread got buried and I never checked it. Would you be so kind to repost that link again? Would very much appreciate it!

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: Justin ()
Date: April 17, 2020 08:39

Bol--or anyone else who may have this...mind reposting the link please?

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: Justin ()
Date: April 20, 2020 08:39

Anyone out there?

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: Bol ()
Date: April 20, 2020 15:08

I will repost it later for you Justin, unless someone beats me to it.

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: Justin ()
Date: April 20, 2020 18:00

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Bol
I will repost it later for you Justin, unless someone beats me to it.

Thank you so much Bol! Really appreciate your help. Looking forward to it.

Re: Post: London, Shepherd's Bush Empire, 1999-06-08 - Matrix
Posted by: Bol ()
Date: April 21, 2020 00:08

Here you go Justin

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