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I have always been very surprised it hasn't turn up earlier. There's quite some people who have this material...
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And there's quite even more people who haven't listened to this material.Your comment here show how selfish can be human being sometime.I agreed with Gotdablouse these outtakes are quite a find and sounds great but I guess that it will surface only when The Trading Circle will got enuff $$$ from those tapes.
It has always been that way. We have to wait patiently until somebody needs cash. As economics are bad nowadays I hope for many more releases to come.
The biggest problem is that there isn't a market anymore for bootlegs as everybody wants everything for free. So my conclusion is that it's our own fault that we don't have more material in our hands...
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And then -the bootleg market is just about totally dead. So, there's not very much money to be made anymore. The days of $200 for a double VGP are long gone. So what's the use of releasing something is it doesn't make any money?
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I have always been very surprised it hasn't turn up earlier. There's quite some people who have this material...
Mathijs
And there's quite even more people who haven't listened to this material.Your comment here show how selfish can be human being sometime.I agreed with Gotdablouse these outtakes are quite a find and sounds great but I guess that it will surface only when The Trading Circle will got enuff $$$ from those tapes.
It has always been that way. We have to wait patiently until somebody needs cash. As economics are bad nowadays I hope for many more releases to come.
The biggest problem is that there isn't a market anymore for bootlegs as everybody wants everything for free. So my conclusion is that it's our own fault that we don't have more material in our hands...
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This stuff is really cool, I would love to hear these ebay tapes in full.
Wasn't there also a rumor of control room footage of the undercover sessions being in the hands of collectors? The mind boggles.
Haven't heard that about UC but Mathijs did tell us sometime last year (when some of it might have appeared on that 6 DVD release whose name escapes me right now, "On File" ?) that he owned control room footage from the "Dirty Work" sessions. I'd heard from a friend who was in Boulogne in 1985 that a friend of his had made some videos inside the studio (how/why that was allowed I have no idea) that he'd dropped off at the house Ronnie was staying in at the time and that he'd thanked him profusely...
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This stuff is really cool, I would love to hear these ebay tapes in full.
Wasn't there also a rumor of control room footage of the undercover sessions being in the hands of collectors? The mind boggles.
Haven't heard that about UC but Mathijs did tell us sometime last year (when some of it might have appeared on that 6 DVD release whose name escapes me right now, "On File" ?) that he owned control room footage from the "Dirty Work" sessions. I'd heard from a friend who was in Boulogne in 1985 that a friend of his had made some videos inside the studio (how/why that was allowed I have no idea) that he'd dropped off at the house Ronnie was staying in at the time and that he'd thanked him profusely...
Man, I would love to see that footage.
I have the box set with snippets from it and it just makes you want more!
Mathijs, is it really true? Do you have this footage?
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This stuff is really cool, I would love to hear these ebay tapes in full.
Wasn't there also a rumor of control room footage of the undercover sessions being in the hands of collectors? The mind boggles.
Haven't heard that about UC but Mathijs did tell us sometime last year (when some of it might have appeared on that 6 DVD release whose name escapes me right now, "On File" ?) that he owned control room footage from the "Dirty Work" sessions. I'd heard from a friend who was in Boulogne in 1985 that a friend of his had made some videos inside the studio (how/why that was allowed I have no idea) that he'd dropped off at the house Ronnie was staying in at the time and that he'd thanked him profusely...
Man, I would love to see that footage.
I have the box set with snippets from it and it just makes you want more!
Mathijs, is it really true? Do you have this footage?
Video footage in the studio taken during Dirty WOrk sessions is available. It's not that interesting though, it's filmned through the glass of the studio wall. It runs for about 25 minutes.
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gotdablouse
So how do you like "It's a Lie" (5'23") ? The harmonica intro is nice and it sounds better at least ;-)
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These outtakes are from a batch of cassette tapes that where sold on Ebay some 5 years ago. They do go around in tape trading circles. It has some great outtakes like ELiza, but also 16 different mixes of Too Much Blood. One tape has the Sonny Rollins overdub sessions, which was discussed here on this board.
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This stuff is really cool, I would love to hear these ebay tapes in full.
Wasn't there also a rumor of control room footage of the undercover sessions being in the hands of collectors? The mind boggles.
Haven't heard that about UC but Mathijs did tell us sometime last year (when some of it might have appeared on that 6 DVD release whose name escapes me right now, "On File" ?) that he owned control room footage from the "Dirty Work" sessions. I'd heard from a friend who was in Boulogne in 1985 that a friend of his had made some videos inside the studio (how/why that was allowed I have no idea) that he'd dropped off at the house Ronnie was staying in at the time and that he'd thanked him profusely...
Man, I would love to see that footage.
I have the box set with snippets from it and it just makes you want more!
Mathijs, is it really true? Do you have this footage?
Video footage in the studio taken during Dirty WOrk sessions is available. It's not that interesting though, it's filmned through the glass of the studio wall. It runs for about 25 minutes.
Mathijs
Do you have a link to this footage at all?
I would love to get it, no matter how tedious it may be.
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Are you trying to say that you've been sitting on "It's a Lie I" (5'23" ) since 2005 and that you find it amusing that's it's only being shared for all to enjoy? Wow...
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Are you trying to say that you've been sitting on "It's a Lie I" (5'23" ) since 2005 and that you find it amusing that's it's only being shared for all to enjoy? Wow...
Do people who buy bootlegs owe something to MP3/FLAC/ collectors, if we can call them " collectors" ? I don't think so.
I used to share a nice part of my collection ( from silvers), on the Rocks Off tracker and Dimeadozen, a few years ago...I even had some @#$%& from the french Twis forum complaining that I wasn't uploading fast enough. And no need to say that you got a handful of "thank you" for hundreds of downloads.And worst of it, you always find a wizard of remastering ( equalizing most part of the time) to butcher the original release and claim it's his own work.
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Are you trying to say that you've been sitting on "It's a Lie I" (5'23" ) since 2005 and that you find it amusing that's it's only being shared for all to enjoy? Wow...
I used to share a nice part of my collection ( from silvers), on the Rocks Off tracker and Dimeadozen, a few years ago...I even had some @#$%& from the french Twis forum complaining that I wasn't uploading fast enough. And no need to say that you got a handful of "thank you" for hundreds of downloads.And worst of it, you always find a wizard of remastering ( equalizing most part of the time) to butcher the original release and claim it's his own work.
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Are you trying to say that you've been sitting on "It's a Lie I" (5'23" ) since 2005 and that you find it amusing that's it's only being shared for all to enjoy? Wow...
I used to share a nice part of my collection ( from silvers), on the Rocks Off tracker and Dimeadozen, a few years ago...I even had some @#$%& from the french Twis forum complaining that I wasn't uploading fast enough. And no need to say that you got a handful of "thank you" for hundreds of downloads.And worst of it, you always find a wizard of remastering ( equalizing most part of the time) to butcher the original release and claim it's his own work.
Not sure what point you're trying to make? You chose not to share the long version of "It's a Lie" when you sold your "Black and Blue Ultimate" on eBay and no one criticized you for that right? On the other hand you have this guy "riccardo99" who comes out of the woodworks as soon as its available to make fun of other fans who're just happy to be able to enjoy that new outtake by boasting he had it since 2005, useless and mean, hence my reply.
Again, let's keep things positive here, in a matter of a week we've had more new outtakes made available to the fans than in the past ten years (yes, most of them are snippets but there are two full songs too), how great is that!
@IrelandCalling4 - the new long version is by far the best quality version that's surfaced so far. The previous best version would be on the DAC-104/Paris Results II - available here : [www.iorr.org]
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Many thanks for the info gotdablouse; "The Harder they Come" is one I am looking forward to downloading!
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Mr.D
Weren't there two versions of NTWTG on One Night With Tallahassee Lassie?
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gotdablouse
@JMARKO - Why would the "buzz" we got on Friday go away because of how these tracks/samples (possibly) got out? On the other hand I think you have everyone interested in the Sony Rollins tracks with a "beep" ;-)
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Have you tried the mega download tool I linked from the first page?
Here is "It's a Lie I" (5'23" ) on wetransfer : [we.tl] (good until 19/12/2014)
Oh a beep on the bkeys snippets? Got it now.