Am I right to assume that these are performances from the late show at the Roundhouse and not the early show where which was on a vinyl bootleg from an audience recording? Or are they the same performances as the vinyl bootleg?

Checked it myself - these performances must be from the other Roundhouse show not the one from which there is an audience tape. I believe these performances are the late show.

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Checked it myself - these performances must be from the other Roundhouse show not the one from which there is an audience tape. I believe these performances are the late show.

I have to check it myself yet. Love In Vain will be a good song to compare.

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Checked it myself - these performances must be from the other Roundhouse show not the one from which there is an audience tape. I believe these performances are the late show.

I have to check it myself yet. Love In Vain will be a good song to compare.

I checked Stray Cat Blues against the vinyl boot which is also on youtube in four parts and Mick's vocal is clearly different on the newly released Stray Cat Blues when compared to the vinyl boot - he does not sing the common "sh*t scared" line heard on Leeds and the other Roundhouse - I've never heard Coventry myself

thanks Kees.

It could be that it's a 'mix' of both Roundhouse shows, because I thinks Love In Vain is from the first gig, known from the bootlegs.

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It could be that it's a 'mix' of both Roundhouse shows, because I thinks Love In Vain is from the first gig, known from the bootlegs.

I agree that Love In Vain is the same performance as the audience tape

Live With Me is the same performance as the audience tape

Midnight Rambler is the same as the audience tape.

Honky Tonk Women is not the same performance as the audience tape

So two songs, Stray Cat B. and Honky Tonk W., are new and from the second gig, and three (Live WM, Love IV and Rambler) are the same ones as are on the well known Roundhouse bootleg from the first gig.

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So two songs, Stray Cat B. and Honky Tonk W., are new and from the second gig, and three (Live WM, Love IV and Rambler) are the same ones as are on the well known Roundhouse bootleg from the first gig.

Yes that is how it seems to me. I just listened to both close enough to get some sort of unique Jagger vocal mannerism or outburst and then checked the other recording to see if the same mannerism or outburst was present on that recording. I wasn't hugely methodical or thorough but I doubt I am wrong.

So Glyn Johns taped both London shows! Yeepee!!!

And the old classic TMOQ vinyl is from the (very) late second show...

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So Glyn Johns taped both London shows! Yeepee!!!

And the old classic TMOQ vinyl is from the (very) late second show...

I thought not but apparently you are probably right. The vinyl bootleg which is from an audience tape is supposedly from the late show though I said early show (earlier in this thread) and I clearly misremembered (to quote Dubya). So if that is accurate, then the new performances from the Sticky Fingers reissue are Stray Cat Blues and Honky Tonk Women and they are from the early show.

These are the versions you get on the new Sticky super extra ultra boxset along with Leeds complete AND in stereo!

Thank you very much, kleermaker!

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Thank you very much, kleermaker!

You're welcome!

Leeds in stereo is now also on YouTube. See this topic: 'YouTube: Leeds 1971 Complete and in Stereo'

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Thank you very much, kleermaker!

You're welcome!

Leeds in stereo is now also on YouTube. See this topic: 'YouTube: Leeds 1971 Complete and in Stereo'

Thank you once more! I'm listening to it now and enjoying a lot.

Thank you, great to listen in stéréo

Thank you very much indeed Kleermaker

Another very good one. Merci

the vinyl bootleg that was mentioned, is that Around in a roundhouse on Mushroom Records?
Is there really a cd/lp of the first gig, only van find that the second gig is mentioned and no information about the first one.



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the vinyl bootleg that was mentioned, is that Around in a roundhouse on Mushroom Records?
Is there really a cd/lp of the first gig, only van find that the second gig is mentioned and no information about the first one.

Yes the vinyl boot was called Around In A Roundhouse but there were two versions - one with Prodigal Son and one without. There may be some controversy over whether or not Prodigal Son was performed at the Roundhouse but I am not sure. The vinyl rip is on the The Great Lost Marquee Tapes bootleg

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the vinyl bootleg that was mentioned, is that Around in a roundhouse on Mushroom Records?
Is there really a cd/lp of the first gig, only van find that the second gig is mentioned and no information about the first one.

Yes the vinyl boot was called Around In A Roundhouse but there were two versions - one with Prodigal Son and one without. There may be some controversy over whether or not Prodigal Son was performed at the Roundhouse but I am not sure. The vinyl rip is on the The Great Lost Marquee Tapes bootleg

I do have the vinyl Around in a roundhouse, but that should be the second show, at least that's what I can find in the Schwazbuche of Hoffman.

I think the first release was on TMoQ, without "Prodigal Son".
This should also be the best source for this show.
The bootleg was then rereleased with "PS", but I think, that this wasn't as good sounding as the first edition!??

You can still download the vinyl rips here:

[www.iorr.org]


By the way, ALL boots are from the SECOND show!

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I think the first release was on TMoQ, without "Prodigal Son".
This should also be the best source for this show.
The bootleg was then rereleased with "PS", but I think, that this wasn't as good sounding as the first edition!??

You can still download the vinyl rips here:

[www.iorr.org]


By the way, ALL boots are from the SECOND show!

The 1st release is TMQ "London Roundhouse" [1812-A / 1812-B] without Prodigal Son.
TMQ re-released the album including Prodigal Son as "London Roundhouse New Edition" [RS-539-A/B], with slightly better sound and corrected speed.

For "Stewedandkeefed", "Around In A Roundhouse" on Mushroom Records is a re-pressing of the 1st "London Roundhouse" with a new cover

My word, this is outstanding stuff. I prefer all these versions to Leeds. Dare I say or think it. Or maybe because it's new to me. Anyhow, thank you very much for posting this and Leeds.

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the vinyl bootleg that was mentioned, is that Around in a roundhouse on Mushroom Records?
Is there really a cd/lp of the first gig, only van find that the second gig is mentioned and no information about the first one.

Yes the vinyl boot was called Around In A Roundhouse but there were two versions - one with Prodigal Son and one without. There may be some controversy over whether or not Prodigal Son was performed at the Roundhouse but I am not sure. The vinyl rip is on the The Great Lost Marquee Tapes bootleg

I always thought Prodigal Son sounded as thought it were subbed in from a different show but I haven't listened in a while.

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I think the first release was on TMoQ, without "Prodigal Son".
This should also be the best source for this show.
The bootleg was then rereleased with "PS", but I think, that this wasn't as good sounding as the first edition!??

You can still download the vinyl rips here:

[www.iorr.org]


By the way, ALL boots are from the SECOND show!

The 1st release is TMQ "London Roundhouse" [1812-A / 1812-B] without Prodigal Son.
TMQ re-released the album including Prodigal Son as "London Roundhouse New Edition" [RS-539-A/B], with slightly better sound and corrected speed.

For "Stewedandkeefed", "Around In A Roundhouse" on Mushroom Records is a re-pressing of the 1st "London Roundhouse" with a new cover

Yep, all boots are from the second show indeed.

After having listened carefully myself my conclusion is this:

Two songs (Live With Me and Stray Cat Blues) are 'new' and from the first gig; three songs (Love In Vain, Midnight Rambler and Honky Tonk Women) are the same ones as are on the well known Roundhouse bootlegs from the second gig.