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The Rolling Stones-Aftermath Isolated Trax
Posted by: ROPENI ()
Date: February 22, 2008 01:42

Found this at Pirate Bay,some of you may be interested..

The Rolling Stones
Aftermath Isolated Trax

All tracks are outfakes derived from the London cd and other sources.

Recording order isn't known. Songs are sequenced with instrumental backing first,
then vocals, song by song in random mostly alphabetical order.

4-track recording is assumed.

Also not known is whether or not any reduction mixes or internal bounces were done
(it sounds like there had to be, on many of the songs). On all of the Dec '65
sessions, it sounds like the music on the left ch is all one complete band basic
take (minus Brian?) while the instruments on the right were all overdubbed.
The Mar '66 sessions sound like the basic take was recorded to two tracks split
left and right, with bass and drums left and guitars right. Many of these songs
sound like an overdub has been added left or right or both, which would have
necessitated a reduction mix or internal bounce to accomodate the extra
instruments.

"I did all the parts on half the album that Brian normally would have done. Sure I
was mad. It wasn't like now where you spend 4 to 6 months making an album. Those
albums had to be done in 10 days, plus another single. That was a fact of life...
With Brian becoming a dead weight on top of the work, it threw a lot of the
pressure on me." - Keith 1979

The half of the album Keith is referring to could be what was recorded in Dec 65.

Photos show that at least some monitoring was done with headphones.

Mixing dates aren't known. No official mono or stereo mixes are included.


Disc 1 - Sessions Dec 3-8 1965 - 70:55

1. 19th Nervous Breakdown - backing rhythm track - from L ch of UM7 stereo
mix. Some piano heard at the end. Mick's vocal is double-tracked so R ch must all
be one take of overdubs unless there was an internal bounce.
2. 19th Nervous Breakdown - overdub track from R ch - must be Brian on
guitar, Keith on fuzz guitar doubling left-ch riff, bass run must be an
overdub by Bill
3. 19th Nervous Breakdown - alternate vocals C - might be live vocal for tv
show, with studio backing tracks
4. 19th Nervous Breakdown - master vocals C
5. Sad Day - mono
6. Mother's Little Helper - backing L
7. Mother's Little Helper - overdub R - (The strange guitar sound is) a 12-string
with a slide on it. It's played slightly Oriental-ish. The track just needed
something to make it twang. Otherwise, the song was quite vaudeville in a way. I
wanted to add some nice bite to it. And it was just one of those things where
someone walked in and, Look, it's an electric 12-string. It was some gashed-up job.
No name on it. God knows where it came from. Or where it went. But I put it together
with a bottleneck. Then we had a riff that tied the whole thing together. And I
think we overdubbed onto that. Because I played an acoustic guitar as
well. -Keith 2002
8. Mother's Little Helper - vocals C
9. Doncha Bother Me - backing L
10. Doncha Bother Me - guitar overdubs R - 3 guitars in the R ch, one in the L ch.
11. Doncha Bother Me - vocals/harmonica C
12. Goin' Home - Keith speaks
13. Goin' Home - false start
14. Goin' Home - backing L - Mick on tambourine must mean his lvs were an
overdub, otherwise those lvs would have bled all over this track on the
tambourine mic.
15. Goin' Home - overdubs R - lead guitar and bvs, overdubs stop at 3:10
16. Goin' Home - lv overdub C
Bonus:
17. 19th Nervous Breakdown - stereo backing LR
18. Mother's Little Helper - stereo backing LR
19. Doncha Bother Me - stereo backing LR

Disc 2 - Sessions Dec 3-8 65 and Mar 6-9 1966 - 76:05

1. Take It Or Leave It - backing L - has both koto and harpsichord, Brian is
supposed to be playing both. Maybe Jack Nitsche is on harps and Brian overdubs the
organ in R ch.
2. Take It Or Leave It - overdubs R - bvs and organ
3. Take It Or Leave It - lead vocal C
4. Think - backing L - lv is double-tracked so everything in R ch must be
an overdub, unless they did a reduction or internal bounce.
5. Think - overdubs R - sounds like 3 guitars here though: acoustic, electric
and fuzz. Or is it fuzz bass?
6. Think - double-tracked vocals C
7. Ride On Baby - backing L - no leakage of C or R ch's
8. Ride On Baby - overdubs R - heavy leakage of vocals on some R ch
instrument mics (?) might indicate lv or bv performed with inst overdubs while
being recorded to another track. Or R ch overdub recorded after the vocals
9. Ride On Baby - vocals C
10. Sittin' On A Fence - backing L - no leakage from R or C ch's.
11. Sittin' On A Fence - guitar R - Keith (?) overdub (?) or Brian
12. Sittin' On A Fence - vocals C
13. Paint It Black - instrumental (edited) - Black Box
14. Paint It Black - stereo backing LR - Stictly Stereo
15. Paint It Black - vocals C - Strictly Stereo
16. Long Long While - mono 45
17. Lady Jane - instrumental - Black Box
18. Lady Jane - backing R
19. Lady Jane - bass and harpsichord L - harpsichord overdubbed? song played live?
20. Lady Jane - vocals C
Bonus:
21. Take It Or Leave It - stereo vocals CR
22. Think - stereo backing LR
23. Ride On Baby - stereo backing LR
24. Sittin' On A Fence - stereo backing LR
25. Lady Jane - stereo backing LR

Disc 3 - Sessions Mar 6-9 1966 - 62:11

1. Stupid Girl - stereo backing LR
2. Stupid Girl - vocals C
3. Flight 505 - stereo backing LR - bass and fuzz bass on L, sounds like lead
guitar overdub on R. Maybe internal bounce of guitars to R, fuzz bass overdubbed
on 4th track panned L?
4. Flight 505 - vocals C
5. High And Dry - stereo backing LR - song performed live?
6. High And Dry - vocals C
7. I Am Waiting - stereo backing LR - vocal in R ch must be live with those
instruments because of double-tracked vocals in C
8. I Am Waiting - double-tracked Mick vocals C
9. If You Let Me - stereo backing LR - sounds like this song done "live"
10. If You Let Me - vocals C
11. It's Not Easy - stereo backing LR - 3 guitars in R ch, the guitar solo
might have been overdubbed after the extra chorus vocal since it's heard in
the R ch probably from monitor playback during tracking
12. It's Not Easy - double-tracked vocals C
13. Out Of Time - stereo backing LR - internal bouncing? On R ch we can hear
the bvs but not the lv.
14. Out Of Time - double-tracked vocals C
15. Under My Thumb - stereo backing LR - Problem: L ch has drums, bass, marimbas
and fuzz bass. R ch has acoustic and electric guitars and piano. Keith is supposed
to be playing both guitars. Electric guitar and fuzz bass must be overdubs.
16. Under My Thumb - vocals
17. What To Do - stereo backing LR
18. What To Do - double-tracked vocals

Disc 4 - Bonus Trax - 68:55

1. Paint It Black - L
2. Paint It Black - R
3. Stupid Girl - L
4. Stupid Girl - R
5. Flight 505 - L
6. Flight 505 - R
7. High And Dry - L
8. High And Dry - R
9. I Am Waiting - L
10. I Am Waiting - R
11. If You Let Me - L
12. If You Let Me - R
13. It's Not Easy - L
14. It's Not Easy - R
15. Out Of Time - L
16. Out Of Time - R
17. Under My Thumb - L
18. Under My Thumb - R
19. What To Do - L
20. What To Do - R

"No dope smoking no beer sold after 12 o'clock"

Re: The Rolling Stones-Aftermath Isolated Trax
Posted by: rbarnes00 ()
Date: February 22, 2008 03:32

ROPENI:

It is always interesting to read Keith's take on what happened. I personally have not read, at least in very much detail, a lot on that album / period (or it's been too long to remember).

Thanks for posting these notes here.

Re: The Rolling Stones-Aftermath Isolated Trax
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: February 22, 2008 04:03

And here the link for the torrent: [thepiratebay.org]

Re: The Rolling Stones-Aftermath Isolated Trax
Posted by: cc ()
Date: February 22, 2008 06:12

thanks, this is probably my favorite album, so I'm very interested...

>All tracks are outfakes derived from the London cd and other sources.<

any idea whether "outfakes" is something other than a typo? If so, what does it mean?

Re: The Rolling Stones-Aftermath Isolated Trax
Posted by: Uncle Thud ()
Date: February 22, 2008 07:29

Thanks!

Re: The Rolling Stones-Aftermath Isolated Trax
Posted by: riccardo99 ()
Date: February 22, 2008 10:18

I hope it does not mean fake outtakes.

Re: The Rolling Stones-Aftermath Isolated Trax
Posted by: cc ()
Date: February 22, 2008 16:04

Quote
riccardo99
I hope it does not mean fake outtakes.

I think it might.

Re: The Rolling Stones-Aftermath Isolated Trax
Posted by: midnrambler ()
Date: February 22, 2008 17:35

Quote
cc
Quote
riccardo99
I hope it does not mean fake outtakes.

I think it might.

They are mostly. Made of the official tracks by playing around with the stereo channels (Aftermath has an extreme channel separation). There are however some versions where you almost hear only the vocals, I don't know how you could extract these from the official tracks.

Re: The Rolling Stones-Aftermath Isolated Trax
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: February 22, 2008 17:51

wow - looks very cool, thanks for posting it.
those "isolation jobs" are "fake", but they can be so interesting & educational sometimes!
and it looks like there's some "unfake" stuff there as well.

Re: The Rolling Stones-Aftermath Isolated Trax
Posted by: ROPENI ()
Date: February 23, 2008 00:54

Here is the cover, From what l have hear so far is pretty good...



"No dope smoking no beer sold after 12 o'clock"

Re: The Rolling Stones-Aftermath Isolated Trax
Posted by: riccardo99 ()
Date: February 23, 2008 20:45

No back cover?

Re: The Rolling Stones-Aftermath Isolated Trax
Posted by: ROPENI ()
Date: February 24, 2008 00:12

Quote
riccardo99
No back cover?[/quote
Here is the back cover,also all the files are on Flac format so you will need a converter to make them into mp3's.The one l use is flac frontend and you can get it free,Good Luck


Re: The Rolling Stones-Aftermath Isolated Trax
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: February 27, 2008 01:28

Great and interesting stuff indeed.

Listening & looking at "Isolated Tracks vol 1 - Toothless Bearded Hag"
it's tagged with "Beatles Remixers Group" and "Tuned To A Natural E Vol 1". eye popping smiley

I'd love to know what software they use & how they do it.
anyone has some insight to share?

...and hey, why aren't there Rolling Stones Remixers Groups

Re: The Rolling Stones-Aftermath Isolated Trax
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: March 3, 2008 13:23

I'm having a problem getting the Aftermath Isolated Trax onto my iTunes library. I've downloaded it three times now but everytime I move the folder across from my downloads file to iTunes the tracks don't upload.

Any idea what I'm doing wrong?


And any idea where I get the full 8CD Satanic majesties outtakes from. I've looked on www.liederbluete.de site but it doesn't lead anywhere to where I can easily download the tracks. Excuse my ignorance but perhaps a kind soul out there can help me.

Re: The Rolling Stones-Aftermath Isolated Trax
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: March 3, 2008 13:56

You should be able to download the box sets via here:

Where's that joint? - The Satanic Sessions HQ
[www.iorr.org]

Re: The Rolling Stones-Aftermath Isolated Trax
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: March 3, 2008 15:00

The Sticky Fingers, Beggars banquet and let It Bleed Isolated Tracks set are now available on the Rocks Off tracker, as is the Aftermath one and "Toothless Bearded Hag" which contains various non-album material from 1966-69

Info here :

[novogate.com]

Re: The Rolling Stones-Aftermath Isolated Trax
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: March 3, 2008 15:05

If you have something like Cool Edit Pro you'll be able to do this type of isolating yourself.

Re: The Rolling Stones-Aftermath Isolated Trax
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: March 3, 2008 15:33

Quote
His Majesty
If you have something like Cool Edit Pro you'll be able to do this type of isolating yourself.

Well I use Logic Platinum and it's fun to mix the tracks back together again.
I could even make 5.1 remix out of them...
but isolating tracks like that, from a stereo mix, now that's something else.
I've done some phase invertion to cancel vocals out of some songs, or using spectral EQ-fingerprints for the same reason - but the quality isn't near those tracks.
Have you dug deeper into this, HM?

btw, the "Tuned To A Natural E Vol 1" was quite off of E. actually -34,6 cent.

Re: The Rolling Stones-Aftermath Isolated Trax
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: March 3, 2008 16:18

Aftermath is easier as the stereo is wide on those recordings, but I can't access the Beggars Banquet isolated tracks as I don't use bit-torrent or whatever it is.

Anyway, I use this isolating thing to work out instrument parts.



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