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Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: Edward Twining ()
Date: February 3, 2008 11:11

I love a number of Lou's albums especially, Coney Island Baby, Berlin, even Rock and Roll Heart in places (especially Ladies Pay and You Wear It So Well), also Set The Twilight Reeling, but The Bells is perhaps my favourite. It's often overlooked but it's really one of Lou's best - patience for the listener perhaps is a virtue, though because it's real strength only reveals itself over a number of listens.

Songs - Coney Island Baby, All Through The Night, Leave Me Alone are amongst my favourites amongst many others.

I think the 78 tour was great yet Lou chose the rambling Take No Prisoners to release as the live album from that period. It's amusing for sure in small doses yet a more straight forward concert representation would have been better, i feel. Lou was trying be be contoversial, but i feel ended up selling himself a little short in the longterm.

I agree JumpinKentFlash, Lou's vocals lack any kind of vitality these days, he's merely talking through the songs and i also feel he needs to broaden his sound a little more and stop relying on simply guitar, bass and drums. Since the beginning of the 80s (after Growing Up In Public) he's been stripping his sound down to its core but i really miss some of the inventiveness and density of his music from the old days - he's more focused now, that's for sure, but for being exciting - sometimes his performance now are reminiscent of watching paint dry. Clean and clinical but boring as hell. Sometimes i feel it's a sign of the times because rock in general is too slick and clean these days but journalist seem to appreciate that. Whether Lou will ever be able to recapture his old vitality, i very much doubt because age is also a factor.His voice has lost a lot of its range and is a lot lower. I think i like him best, certainly in terms of live in around 76-78 when he incorporated that jazzy sound to his music.



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Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: Toru A ()
Date: February 3, 2008 14:53

From his interview at the time of releasing Rock 'n' Roll Animal.

Why Howard Stein's Academy of Music?
Lou : Because Carnegie Hall or Alice Tully Hall kept Bowie, Iggy and me out.

What do you think "Berlin" was evaluated as "Sgt. Pepper's" in 70's?
Lou : Humiliating.

What do you love now?
Lou : Movie titled "Mean Streets" , The Great Lost Kinks Album and Preservation: Act1.

What nail polish do you use?
Lou : Viva La Black.

BTW,
Steve Hunter played a role in the movie "The Rose".

James Burton, Steve Hunter and Dick Wagner



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2008-02-03 15:31 by Toru A.

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: February 3, 2008 18:58

Never saw the full view of that picture before.

Is that Keith, Beck, and Mick Ronson besides Reed, Bowie, and Jagger?

"No Anchovies, Please"

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: mofur ()
Date: February 3, 2008 20:46

Favorite albums:
Street Hassle
The Blue Mask
Berlin

Favorite songs:
Sweet Jane
Heroin
I Wanna Be Black
Waves of Fear
Street Hassle
Leave Me Alone
The Blue Mask
Venus In Furs

....and loads and loads of others

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: gstone ()
Date: February 3, 2008 20:51

Elmo Lewis:
I don't think Keith was there. For some reason he and Bowie never got on well. (I think Keith made fun of his rather feminine ways, and used names like "fag" and other ugly words.) The dark haired man between Bowie and Mick Ronson could be a young man named Phillip, from Langley/Slough. He used to hang out with Bowie and Ronson...



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Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: February 3, 2008 20:53

Looked kinda like Keef, Lou, Jagger, Bowie. Jeff Beck, and Mick Ronson.

I'm getting old though!

"No Anchovies, Please"

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: February 3, 2008 22:34

Quote
JumpingKentFlash
Ah yes. American Poet is better. I think that too. But that's not saying R 'n R Animal isn't very, very good too. Since I started being a serious music fan I've always loved Lou. He has so many great albums. Not even mentioning VU I'd say that Transformer, The Blue Mask, Berlin, Coney Island Baby (One of the best LP covers ever too), Songs For Drella, some of Magic & Loss, New York and Set The Twilight Reeling are all top notch albums.

BTW: All of you name your fave Lou album and top three songs please. smiling smiley

Mine are:
Album - Berlin.
Songs - Halloween Parade, Dirty Blvd., Caroline Says.

Amazing man if you ask me. On YouTube I once found a concert (From last year) where only Lou and Pete Townsend played. I love Lou, but live he doesn't seem like he's very good these days.

PS: Check out the Lou Reed docu DVD "Rock 'n Roll Heart". It's a thrilling piece of work.

Cant be arsed picking one album and 3 songs..so :

Albums - Berlin, New York, R&R Animal, New Sensations, Street Hassle, Transformer
Songs - Street Hassle (his best ever), The Blue Mask, How do you speak to an angel, Sad Song, Doin' The Things That We Want To, Strawman, Last Great American Whale, My Friend George, Dirt
(I know 'Heroin' is a VU song, but THAT version on Rock 'n' Roll Animal is one of my top 3..wow)



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Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: February 3, 2008 22:36

Quote
Edward Twining
I love a number of Lou's albums especially, Coney Island Baby, Berlin, even Rock and Roll Heart in places (especially Ladies Pay and You Wear It So Well), also Set The Twilight Reeling, but The Bells is perhaps my favourite. It's often overlooked but it's really one of Lou's best - patience for the listener perhaps is a virtue, though because it's real strength only reveals itself over a number of listens.

Songs - Coney Island Baby, All Through The Night, Leave Me Alone are amongst my favourites amongst many others.

I think the 78 tour was great yet Lou chose the rambling Take No Prisoners to release as the live album from that period. It's amusing for sure in small doses yet a more straight forward concert representation would have been better, i feel. Lou was trying be be contoversial, but i feel ended up selling himself a little short in the longterm.

I agree JumpinKentFlash, Lou's vocals lack any kind of vitality these days, he's merely talking through the songs and i also feel he needs to broaden his sound a little more and stop relying on simply guitar, bass and drums. Since the beginning of the 80s (after Growing Up In Public) he's been stripping his sound down to its core but i really miss some of the inventiveness and density of his music from the old days - he's more focused now, that's for sure, but for being exciting - sometimes his performance now are reminiscent of watching paint dry. Clean and clinical but boring as hell. Sometimes i feel it's a sign of the times because rock in general is too slick and clean these days but journalist seem to appreciate that. Whether Lou will ever be able to recapture his old vitality, i very much doubt because age is also a factor.His voice has lost a lot of its range and is a lot lower. I think i like him best, certainly in terms of live in around 76-78 when he incorporated that jazzy sound to his music.

I love 'All Through The Night'. I know hes uncredited but does that or does that not sound like Bowie who hes talking to at the start....and likewise the backing vocal on the magnificent 'How do you speak to an angel' ?

Agree with what you say about his voice on his recent work.

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: Toru A ()
Date: February 4, 2008 01:54

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Addicted
Quote
Toru A

This was at the Café Royal, London, in July 1973, just after "Ziggy had to break up the band" - Bowie announced the end of Ziggy and the Spiders.
In Anthony Scaduto's Jagger bio, there's this photo of Bowie making out with Lou, and Mick looking embarrassed. I could not find the book now, but surely - someone else must have it... It's a great photo!

Aynsley Dunbar, Lou Reed, Mick Jagger, David Bowie, Jeff Beck & Mick Ronson from left to right.

Celebrities at "The Last Supper" included: Paul and Linda McCartney, Keith Moon, Lulu, Tony Curtis, Peter Cook and Dudley Moore, The Goodies, Cat Stevens, Ringo and Maureen Starr, Mick and Bianca Jagger, Jeff Beck, Lou Reed, Barbara Streisand, Ryan O'Neil, Sonny Bono, Elliot Gould, Britt Ekland and Dr John.

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Date: February 4, 2008 11:00

New York

1. Straw Man
2. Halloween Parade
3. Romeo And Juliet

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: keeffriffhard ()
Date: February 4, 2008 11:59

albums:

1. Berlin
2. Rock & Roll Heart
3. Take No Prisoners

songs:

1. Sweet Jane
2. The Gun
3. Rock & Roll Heart

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: ozstoner ()
Date: February 4, 2008 12:34

rock n roll animal and ya ya's are the two best live albums ever made. I can never quite decide which is 1 and which is 2 but it doesn't matter. some people say YCAGWYW is a rip off of heroin or visa versa. Similar 1/IV chord change it's true but then it's the most common chord change in the history of music

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: February 4, 2008 13:21

Thanks, Toru.

"No Anchovies, Please"

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 4, 2008 13:29

Some Kinda Love from THE VELVET UNDERGROUND will always knock ya heart around....





ROCKMAN

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: casinoboogie ()
Date: February 4, 2008 13:54

Quote
Rockman
Some Kinda Love from THE VELVET UNDERGROUND will always knock ya heart around....


My favourite VU album

What Goes On is somethin' else...

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: February 4, 2008 15:03

Quote
Rank Stranger
The intro riff of the Velvet's "There She Goes Again" and the Stones'
"Hitch Hike" sound VERY similar to me !

It's exactly the same intro. Sterling Morrison must have been a huge Stones fan.

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: David Neal ()
Date: February 4, 2008 16:06

Lou Reed is a frequent visitor to Turks and Caicos's Parrot Kay Resort...sure he and keith have met there mnay a time

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: Addicted ()
Date: February 4, 2008 16:15

Nothing extraordinary about my favourite, I'm afraid. I still lay "Transformer" a lot. In my opinion it's among the top 20 albums in rock. And just the thought of David Bowie and Mick Ronson producing all those masterpieces in '72 blows my mind. (The Rise And Fall of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars", "Transformer", Iggy's "Raw Power", work for Mott the Hoople (All The Young Dudes), and this while touring... No wonder they took coke 12 times a day - they probably did not have time to sleep.)

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: Sohoe ()
Date: February 4, 2008 17:55

Quote
Silver Dagger
Quote
Rank Stranger
The intro riff of the Velvet's "There She Goes Again" and the Stones'
"Hitch Hike" sound VERY similar to me !

It's exactly the same intro. Sterling Morrison must have been a huge Stones fan.

In the VU bio Uptight Sterling Morrison is quoted saying listening to Bo Diddley and Chuck Berry made him pick up the guitar.

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: February 4, 2008 18:18

Lou is great....a fav of mine is that 78? live album recorded in NY Take no pr....have two copies on lp ...is it on cd?

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: February 4, 2008 19:10

Sweet (Lady) Jane
Walk On The Wild (Horses) Side

And this:
Occassionally the Stones are out of tune,
Occassionally Lou Reed plays in tune.

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: keeffriffhard ()
Date: February 4, 2008 23:19

Yeah Rooster, it "Take No Prisoners" is on CD (Arista/BMG Heritage 07822 10609-2)

One of my favourite live albums.........Lou's introducing his songs, he talks, talks and talks......and some real nasty r&r music....

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: Nikolai ()
Date: February 4, 2008 23:29

Favourite Lou albums:

Ecstasy
Berlin
Street Hassle
New Sensations
Take No Prisoners
The Bells

Songs:

Romeo Had Juliette
Tell It To Your Heart
Think It Over
Sword of Damocles
Forever Changed
Egg Cream
NYC Man
Coney Island Baby
Sally Can't Dance (Album version)


For those of you who haven't got it, I'd recommend Live at Montreux 2000. Very heavy on the Ecstasy album (as was the tour), but quite superb.

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: rooster ()
Date: February 4, 2008 23:51

Quote
keeffriffhard
Yeah Rooster, it "Take No Prisoners" is on CD (Arista/BMG Heritage 07822 10609-2)

One of my favourite live albums.........Lou's introducing his songs, he talks, talks and talks......and some real nasty r&r music....
thanks fo the info!

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: dixiecup ()
Date: February 5, 2008 00:00

Albums by Lou Reed that I like
The Blue Mask (the name of my first band) the gun is the standout track
Legendary Hearts - rooftop garden my favorite
Growing Up In Public
Transformer
Rock and Roll Animal - Prakash Johns playing is the highlight
Loaded
White Light White Heat

Its unfortunate that Lou couldn't manage his relationship with other major talents like Robert Quine any better. A little maturity could have gone a long way. I'm sure he knows that now.

Read an interview here with the late great Robert Quine here to know more about Lou Reed.
[www.furious.com]



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Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: Glam Descendant ()
Date: February 6, 2008 12:11

One of my favorite Lou Reed albums was never released in the US: LIVE IN ITALY. Robert Quine fans rules on this! Fantastic version of "Satellite Of Love".

His last album ANIMAL SERENADE is a latter-day high mark.

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: MTFan ()
Date: February 6, 2008 13:51

Quote
ozstoner
rock n roll animal and ya ya's are the two best live albums ever made. I can never quite decide which is 1 and which is 2 but it doesn't matter. some people say YCAGWYW is a rip off of heroin or visa versa. Similar 1/IV chord change it's true but then it's the most common chord change in the history of music


I agree,the guitar interaction on both albums is xtremely "hot".

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: Nikolai ()
Date: February 6, 2008 14:52

Quote
Glam Descendant
One of my favorite Lou Reed albums was never released in the US: LIVE IN ITALY. Robert Quine fans rules on this! Fantastic version of "Satellite Of Love".

His last album ANIMAL SERENADE is a latter-day high mark.

Great album, apart from when Fat Tony of Anthony & The Johnsons sings. I hate his voice at the best of times, but he ruins otherwise great versions of Candy Says and Tell It To Your Heart. Great version of Ecstasy though. And the bonus is that Lou's tai chi master doesn't run the middle of it with some contortions you have to politely applaud (as you did at the gig).

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: February 6, 2008 16:50

Connection between Lou Reed and the Stones? Jagger's arse.

Re: I love LOU REED...any connection with our beloved boys?
Posted by: KSIE ()
Date: February 6, 2008 18:19

Quote
Toru A
From his interview at the time of releasing Rock 'n' Roll Animal.


What nail polish do you use?
Lou : Viva La Black.


Actually it was "Biba Black"

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