We know how the blues from the 50's and Motown from the 60's played a role in Stones music, and of course disco and punk with "Some Girls" but what about the New Wave 80's pop?

Any thoughts or examples?

I remember reading in the Books "Its only rock N roll Song by song" that on "too much blood" they got a gitaurist named Jim Barber to play on it. Mick picked him because he wanted a "modern " sound and told him to play like Andy Sommers of the Police on that track.



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Where the Boys go...on a Saturday Night.

Mick...Keith...Bill and Ronnie all wanted to go
Flock Of Sea Gulls with their hair-do's but Charlie said NO...



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Well, georgeV, that was a quick impact from "the 80s" ;O)
.. Still I kinda agree with ya.

<I remember reading in the Books "Its only rock N roll Song by song" that on "too much blood" they got a gitaurist named Jim Barber to play on it. Mick picked him because he wanted a "modern " sound and told him to play like Andy Sommers of the Police on that track.>

Jim Barber was the stones' guitar technician. But he plays on Too Much Blood.

Songs like Shattered came on right in the beginning of the new wave times, and as always, the stones were spot on in capturing what was going on at the time.

On a gut level i'd say Dirty Work sports some (admittedly late) New Wave influence. It reminds me of other 60's acts like The Pretty Things on their "Cross Talk" album.

"Hey, Mickey"?

"No Anchovies, Please"

The Sicilian Wrote:
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> We know how the blues from the 50's and Motown
> from the 60's played a role in Stones music, and
> of course disco and punk with "Some Girls" but
> what about the New Wave 80's pop?
>
> Any thoughts or examples?


80's ? no..but 70's new wave did.

Not sure what you mean by "new wave pop", though?

They certainly played fast as punks during the tours in 1981-82.

Gazza Wrote:
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> 80's ? no..but 70's new wave did.


Yeah, agree. I think "She's So Cold" is the most skinny-tie thing they did.

Karl

great thread - i think some of the sparser sounding songs like 'send it to me' off Emo Resc. sounds a little like a new wave rock song -sort of like 'down under' by men at work.

Svartmer Wrote:
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> They certainly played fast as punks during the
> tours in 1981-82.

As 'round ´78..

Gazza Wrote:
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> 80's ? no..but 70's new wave did.
>
> Not sure what you mean by "new wave pop", though?

New wave pretty much is considered mid 80's to early 90's, stuff like "Tears For Fears", Dead Or Alive", "David and David", "Split Enz", "Depeche Mode", etc...

I thought the drum sound on "Neighbors" was pretty New Wavy.

Pretty sure it was right after Punk. Late 70's and early 80's. Don't think Tears for Fears or Depeche Mode. More like the Cars.

Split Enz was around in early 80's.

I think what The Sicilian is talking about is Newromantics.

The most important thing to me is that the New Wave thing
didn´t influence the Stones´ drumsound, especially snare.
The snare sound of most of the 80´s pop bands is just weak
and boring.

Except for Dirty Work, all drumsounds of the 80s are very good
(ER, TY, U) or good (SW).

<New wave pretty much is considered mid 80's to early 90's, stuff like "Tears For Fears", Dead Or Alive", "David and David", "Split Enz", "Depeche Mode", etc...>

That's not new wave. Those bands are even after the "post punk-wave.

Late seventies to early eighties is considered to be the peak of the new wave-period to my knowledge.

The Rolling Stones are highly influenced by bands like Dead Kennedys, Crass, Conflict, NoMeansNo, Black Flag and Fugazi, without a doubt

Another joker today, ey, Shelter?
Would they know these bands?

Baboon Bro Wrote:
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> Another joker today, ey, Shelter?
> Would they know these bands?


;-)

The Sicilian Wrote:
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> Gazza Wrote:
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> > 80's ? no..but 70's new wave did.
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> > Not sure what you mean by "new wave pop",
> though?
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> New wave pretty much is considered mid 80's to
> early 90's, stuff like "Tears For Fears", Dead Or
> Alive", "David and David", "Split Enz", "Depeche
> Mode", etc...


New romantics then....in which case , no. Not remotely. I'd say those acts were pretty much the antithesis of what the Stones were, musically

yes - Jagger's solo stuff..

On a related topic I would say "Might as well get Juiced" is the most 90's sounding thing they did. The sound kind of reminds me Of Nine Inch Nails!

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> yes - Jagger's solo stuff..


Tracks like Let's Work, Lucky in Love and Just Another Night remind me of the Nik Kershaw/Thompson Twins era of pop.

The thing in the eighthies wasn't so much about songs or styles...it was more about arrangements and production.
Everybody was playing with technology and synthesizers. Everything was overproduced, with little room for those crude old fashioned guitar thingies.
I'm not saying all typical eighties music was rubbish...but a lot of potentially very good music was spoiled in that decade.

there was good music in the 80's but Not as much substance as their had been. It was a good decade for radio hits.

..and a shockingly bad decade for haircuts...

Gazza Wrote:
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> ..and a shockingly bad decade for haircuts...

So you are a fan of the "Flock of Seagulls" huh Gazza