Friggin' In The Riggin'

I remember "Never mind the Bullocks" was played over the PA prior to a Stones show way back when... I had never heard anything like the song "Bodies" (She was a girl from Birmingham...) before or since... they were a great one shot wonder for the time... I don't find them relevant today... Lydon must need the cash to get his rotten teeth fixed...

They were great back in the day. (saw 'em in Baton Rouge, Louisiana) but this reunion doesn't mean sh-t unless they put out a new record. Now that would make me raise an eyebrow.

Ah I wish Sex Pistols had ended for good in Winterland 1978,
the 1996 and 2002 reunion were pathetic.
Magnificent in the 70s....but that energy can't be brought back by TV-Rotten and his gang

Nowadays an old band could really make some news and announce they ain't gonna reunite and tour.

Jim

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Erik_Snow Wrote:
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> Ah I wish Sex Pistols had ended for good in
> Winterland 1978,
> the 1996 and 2002 reunion were pathetic.
> Magnificent in the 70s....but that energy can't be
> brought back by TV-Rotten and his gang


Actually, HAD they ended on Rotten's infamous "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" line at Winterland in '78, that would have been absolutely perfect. Instead, they had to go and spoil it with a - frankly crap - reunion in '96 (not sure what was more embarassing - Rotten's clowning or steve Jones' leopard skin trousers), and an even more pointless one in 2002.

The Clash talked about reforming a few times, but never did, principally because they "didn't want to f.uck up anyone's memories". And they were offered more money than the Pistols were.

The thing is, for Lydon and Co, it is all about the money. They don't really have any. Lydon has a solo album (his second) he's trying to finish and get released (he's out of contract), so that's his only source of quick income.

The sad thing is, I consider the first two albums he did with Public Image to be way better than "Bollocks". Wish he'd reform PiL with Jah Wobble and Martin Atkins. That I'd pay to see.

"The worst mistake they ever made was the US tour in early '78 when they travelled across the American SOUTH! Who the hell booked that tour and what the @#$%& were they thinking? They played in places like TEXAS but skipped New York, Chicago, Detroit? "

Clearly, you just don't get it...that was the point! They would not play CBGBs, but they would do cowboy bars in the South. That was the ENTIRE POINT...that punk wasn't a movement, it was going against the grain. It was actually following in the 60s ideology of "be your own here", or to put it better "don't follow leaders, watch your parking meetaaws".

BTW...caught the Dallas show in a rundown warehouse in 96'. It was fantastic!

P.S. The Zeros & The Nuns opened that Winterland show. The Zeros reformed just a few months ago & did Italy/Spain.

Nikolai Wrote:
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> The sad thing is, I consider the first two albums
> he did with Public Image to be way better than
> "Bollocks". Wish he'd reform PiL with Jah Wobble
> and Martin Atkins. That I'd pay to see.

Such a reunion *could* have given some good results, I agree
That Metal Box was a really good album
PiL was built on other things than transient rage of youth - as Pistols were... but it's a bigger name and more money to be made if touring as Sex Pistols

A friend of mine talked to Rotten about 3 weeks ago and apparently there are plans to play the US. As far as his needing money, he is loaded with cash. He has homes in Malibu and Marina Del Rey, right off the beach. He and his wife have made a small fortune off developing properties. Now the other 3 could use the money I'm sure.

I saw the 2003 tour and I liked it a lot. I'd definitely see them again.

Saw their reunion concert in Berlin in 1996 and loved it. Steve Jones is a guitar hero. And he was a much better guitarist then, than in 1977. The show lasted about 90 minutes and had all from Bollocks in, some single B-sides and a cover version of The Monkeys' Stepping Stone. During the secong encore (No Fun) Lydon was hit by a bottle and left the stage. That was fun!

N

Baboon Bro Wrote:
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> I might be the only one of this board;
> but I have always loved the Pistols. Let go
> that Vicious boy was a little too much, but...
>
> They changed the word as we knew it, and they
> fell into the Chuckster-Keefster-tradition.
> I also sense Doors, Who, Velvet, Ramones there..
> Eddie Cochran, surf punk, and classic, rootsy
> blues...
> Motörhead & primordial heavy rock...
>
> Keep on bashin': ya know they are truly Great.

You are not the only one!!!

There are rumors in the Pistols world that there will be a few shows around December and that the W. Coast is the most likely (prob. since J. Lydon lives in LA).

sdstonesguy Wrote:
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> "The worst mistake they ever made was the US tour
> in early '78 when they travelled across the
> American SOUTH! Who the hell booked that tour and
> what the @#$%& were they thinking? They played in
> places like TEXAS but skipped New York, Chicago,
> Detroit? "
>
> Clearly, you just don't get it...that was the
> point! They would not play CBGBs, but they would
> do cowboy bars in the South. That was the ENTIRE
> POINT...that punk wasn't a movement, it was going
> against the grain. It was actually following in
> the 60s ideology of "be your own here", or to put
> it better "don't follow leaders, watch your
> parking meetaaws".
>
>

They wouldn't have HAD to play CBGBs. In New York, in '78, there would have been enough interest in the band to book them into the Beacon Theatre for several nights and they could have made some real money playing to people who really wanted to see them and not been all dejected and demoralized by the time they got to San Francisco. People in the South in the late 70s didn't want to see the goddamn Sex Pistols. They wanted to see the Allman Brothers and Marshall Tucker and the Outlaws and Charlie Daniels and Lynyrd Skynyrd. Touring the South wasn't "going against the grain", it was total career suicide for them!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-09-19 02:05 by tatters.

But did it circle around career?

Nikolai Wrote:
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> Erik_Snow Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Ah I wish Sex Pistols had ended for good in
> > Winterland 1978,
> > the 1996 and 2002 reunion were pathetic.
> > Magnificent in the 70s....but that energy can't
> be
> > brought back by TV-Rotten and his gang
>
>
> Actually, HAD they ended on Rotten's infamous
> "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" line
> at Winterland in '78, that would have been
> absolutely perfect. Instead, they had to go and
> spoil it with a - frankly crap - reunion in '96
> (not sure what was more embarassing - Rotten's
> clowning or steve Jones' leopard skin trousers),
> and an even more pointless one in 2002.



I would have been quite happy to let Sid and Nancy (1986) be the final word on the Sex Pistols. Of course, I never would have gotten to see them if that had been the case.

Baboon Bro Wrote:
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> But did it circle around career?


Who knows what went on in their crazy mixed up heads. I think there ARE some people who really WANT to fail.

No point in it...they made their statement, but now it Rock and Roll Swindle part 4.

But the regular public will go fer it....

Actually, now that I think about it, the Stones out-Pistoled the Pistols...$400 dollar ticket prices...now THATS a rock and roll swindle...

God rest them all...aint no real rocknroll no more.

Peace out..JR

Reform......!!!

The bleeders we're best in the early days
when Rotten and all of da gang were hunched & deformed.....



ROCKMAN

tatters Wrote:
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> Baboon Bro Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > But did it circle around career?
>
>
> Who knows what went on in their crazy mixed up
> heads. I think there ARE some people who really
> WANT to fail.

Forgot punk rock's credo?
"Hit me - I wanna die"

"They wouldn't have HAD to play CBGBs. In New York, in '78, there would have been enough interest in the band to book them into the Beacon Theatre for several nights and they could have made some real money playing to people who really wanted to see them and not been all dejected and demoralized by the time they got to San Francisco. People in the South in the late 70s didn't want to see the goddamn Sex Pistols. They wanted to see the Allman Brothers and Marshall Tucker and the Outlaws and Charlie Daniels and Lynyrd Skynyrd. Touring the South wasn't "going against the grain", it was total career suicide for them!"

Again...that was the point...and not terribly difficult to see either...they certainly didn't hide...and they've even talked about it since.

wrong thread, sorry!



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sdstonesguy Wrote:
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> "They wouldn't have HAD to play CBGBs. In New
> York, in '78, there would have been enough
> interest in the band to book them into the Beacon
> Theatre for several nights and they could have
> made some real money playing to people who really
> wanted to see them and not been all dejected and
> demoralized by the time they got to San Francisco.
> People in the South in the late 70s didn't want to
> see the goddamn Sex Pistols. They wanted to see
> the Allman Brothers and Marshall Tucker and the
> Outlaws and Charlie Daniels and Lynyrd Skynyrd.
> Touring the South wasn't "going against the
> grain", it was total career suicide for them!"
>
> Again...that was the point...and not terribly
> difficult to see either...they certainly didn't
> hide...and they've even talked about it since.


The point was to crash and burn and then go on tour 20 and 30 years later playing every song on their one and only album to ever-dwindling audiences who cared about it less and less? That was their Master Plan? I guess I really never will understand the punk ethos!

Short reminder and a clue: Chaos was their "plan".

If that is what you got from it tatters...I can't help you anymore.

Forgot punk rock's credo?
"Hit me - I wanna die"



I think John Lennon and The Beatles beat them to it Bro. Remember Yer Blues?....."Lonely want to die"..."Even hate my Rock & Roll"

the only thing punk about the pistols was vivian westwood and malcolm mclaren

at least they were ronnie wood fans.

OLDKR

Baboon Bro Wrote:
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> Well I aint gonna bite.
> More interesting thirty years ago and before.

Well I will ... so with equal respect Monsieur Baboon, f*** ya too !!

No pun ? Hope ya get the drift, Pauly.
Ya're in good (or at least numerous) company
critizisin'Pistols then & now. What do I care.

No fun my babe no fun
No fun my babe no fun
No fun to hang around
Feeling that same old way
No fun to hang around
Freaked out for another day
No fun my babe no fun
No fun my babe no fun
No fun to be around
Walking by myself
No fun to be alone
In love with nobody else
Well maybe go out maybe stay home
Maybe call mom on the telephone
Well come on, well come on,
Well come on..........

it's a joke ?????????? punk is dead !!!!

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