Send a sample to Charlie, man of taste.

I think Ronnie'd be much more likely to wear it.

Schillid, great to hear the design is making good progress. I'm looking forward to the end result.

Jelle

All the boys should get one! Even the backing band. And Lisa.

I still need to do the details of the 4 stones faces.

Interesting to hear the reaction....

And yours too, my friend

too "clean"? no?...

Don't get me wrong schillid - I wish you the best of luck.

I'd be interested to see the final graphic. Its a bit vague otherwise.

Also, have you a graduation over the letering? Might that not cause problems achieving the same effect once printed

Best of luck anyhow.....

I put this up only so people can see a basic layout. I hope to do something interesting color-wise with the figures/ faces.

What is your opinion, ablett?

I'd just put up your finished design once its ready Pal.

Your layouts been very popular and its what BV is after.

Gradation and transparency on the lettering ... combined with silkscreening on a black shirt is what I am concerned about.

I spoke with a friend of wine who is a textile designer. She explained to me that they use something called a "flash" plate that is printed in solid white under the design. The printer needs to print the flash plate just slightly smaller (to make sure that the white doesn't show outside the color) and let it dry, before printing the colors on top.

I hope that they can print it. And if I'm really lucky, maybe I'll get to see hundreds of people wearing this shirt at a Stones concert somewhere in Europe this Spring. I've only ever been to Europe once (Paris) and that was years ago.

Yeah, its like a backup white. Stops the 4 colour process sinking into the shirt. Should be fine, standard in screen printing.
My only concern is the wide dot the screen printers will use and whether you'll lose the grad effect?

We must be boring everyone stupid!?

somehow i doubt it... not with over 20,000 hits

(even you are probably at least 10,000 of them )

9,482 of them were proofs........ ;-)

ablett Wrote:
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> My only concern is the wide dot the screen
> printers will use and whether you'll lose the grad
> effect?


Hopefully the courseness of the dot screen works to my advantage with the look of the design. I am preparing the image large and at high resolution for this... I've done some tests... just with Photoshop... but now we have to wait and see what BV's printer says. Do you happen to know the dot pitch that the t-shirt printer will use?

By the way, BV...
The mock-ups that I sent you were just for you to look at... the printer would create the screen himself from the Photoshop file.

Thats a difficult one. Grads printed by screen is a whole different ballpark to litho. This might help?

[www.yet2.com]

Schillid wrote:

I spoke with a friend of wine who is a textile designer.

We're several friends of wine here!!! That's a Bacchus slip of tongue. Good to hear the T-shirt's in the works. Mine will be soaked in WINE before you know it!

I sense an upcoming thread of photos with IORR'eans in their new t-shirts, posing in various exotic around-the-world- locations!

schillid Wrote:
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> Gradation and transparency on the lettering ...
> combined with silkscreening on a black shirt is
> what I am concerned about.
>

Rightly so.
IMO, Gradiation and transparency in silkscreening, can only be achieved by rasterizing the different colours.
only the printer himself can give accurate information about the grid size as that will differ with the t-shirt weight beeing used.

some weired babelfish translation - hope it helps^^

Store as original file. The used writings must be provided on the data medium, equally all pictures and diagrams must be attached. Writings electronically italically or fat do not place, but always work with the original documents. Pictures should always be converted into CMYK . Depending upon screen and color profile attitude the print can deviate from your screen. Color profile: CMYK. Dissolution for pictures: 300 dpi, if the pictures in the PC are not increased. Raster width: Stop the raster width to half of the dissolution.

"friend of wine"!!

that's a freudian typo!

In plain english then, supply original files on disk, in CMYK at 300dpi.

All the rest the printers can sort......

open-g Wrote:
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>
> Store as original file. The used writings must be
> provided on the data medium, equally all pictures
> and diagrams must be attached. Writings
> electronically italically or fat do not place, but
> always work with the original documents. Pictures
> should always be converted into CMYK . Depending
> upon screen and color profile attitude the print
> can deviate from your screen. Color profile: CMYK.
> Dissolution for pictures: 300 dpi, if the pictures
> in the PC are not increased. Raster width: Stop
> the raster width to half of the dissolution.

I figured that I'd need to supply it as CMYK. Now "Writings"... by that I assume mean the white type*. I am wondering about that as well. Are you saying that I need to supply the fonts as well? And the photos too? Even if the type and photos are "part of the design"? I am also wondering this: On the front, can't the white type be printed as part of the flash plate?

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IMPORTANT NOTE:
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"www.iorr.org" on the front. "It's Only Rock'n Roll" on the back. (Note spelling of "Rock'n Roll", everybody... that's IT! Or is it? BV?)

Rasterise the job in photoshop creating a four colour job only. Supply as a .jpg/.tiff
You then won't need to supply fonts etc.
The printers won't run it as spot colours, only as a four colour process. The white they can create from your artwork.

got it
thanks

I'd never have expected that I'd be discussing graphic design on IORR tell me forum...

Would it be easier for the printer without so mush gradation in the color? It's 4-color either way... what's the difference?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-02-05 18:32 by schillid.

We'll take over eventually.......

I really AM a balloon tester.

Well the big font, IORR and photos go as a picture - each seperated from CMYK colours.
you get the white underbase by reduceing the whole design to grayscale and then switching to negative.

always something new to learn on IORR

The tight grads in all fairness might disappear as it'll be a wide mesh.But the effect should stay to some degree. Don't over do it on the faces etc....