The one he used in 1969. Was it this one? [www.ampeg.com]
It seems that it's the only glass body guitar you can get on Ampeg's website.

JumpingKentFlash

as i understand it the two Keith had in 69 were prototypes. there's a photo of them on this page:
[www.iorr.org]

after they were stolen, he replaced them, presumably with non-prototype versions, but wasn't happy with the replacements.

Thanks. I'm hoping to get one of these sometime (But it's hard to find a retailer in Denmark). Along with a cool amp it's my wet dream.

JumpingKentFlash

JumpingKentFlash Wrote:
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> Thanks. I'm hoping to get one of these sometime
> (But it's hard to find a retailer in Denmark).
> Along with a cool amp it's my wet dream.

You can directly order them from Japan, and even with all taxes added it will be cheaper than buying them from a retailer in Denmark.

Mathijs

Mathijs Wrote:
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> You can directly order them from Japan, and even
> with all taxes added it will be cheaper than
> buying them from a retailer in Denmark.
>
> Mathijs


For real? And the quality of the guitar is the exact same? How much would it cost you reckon? I saw a place that sold one for 20.000 Kr. That's around 3000$.

JumpingKentFlash

I haven't played these new ones yet. I would expect a simular quality to the original ones, allthough the hard rock maple for the neck, and the Brazilian rosewood used in the 1960's was of a quality that is encredibly rare and expensive these days. But generally speaking, it will be of around the same quality. Hey, if it's good enough for Ron Wood, it's good enough for us!

They go for $1400 in the U.S., so expect to pay around $1000 when ordered directly in Japan.

Mathijs

Iv'e got one, but it's not good. Had to replace the neck, but still not good. The sound is increadible, but it's impossible to get it tuned. It's an original. I'm very very sad, because it's so cool!

Can you put up some pics, Niklas?
loved to see it.

Keith got an original back in 97...

JR



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as far as i know, the original dan armstrongs were given by ampeg to musician bying a lot of ampeg amplifiers.

so probably they gave a guitar to keith and a bass to bill.

and maybe the first promotional series were different to the commercial series ?

The one shown, is likely the same one Keith played at the Garden last year....I think on Bitch...

JR

I think they look ugly and cheap. I remember being kinda shocked the first time I saw pics of Keith with one. He certainly made em sound good though!

smile: in The True Adventures of the Rolling Stones, Stanley Booth wrote something like:
"In a world full of guitars made of rare woods, lacquered in beautiful colors and inlaid with gold, mother-of-pearl and tortoiseshell,
Keith Richards chose to play one that looked like it was made of dried gelatine." :E

anyone ever played one....or the bass...........those suckers are heavy

picture from winter tour 1973 - the title of the record have nothing to do with the picture !!!

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> picture from winter tour 1973 - the title of the
> record have nothing to do with the picture !!!
>
> [i115.photobucket.com]
> Akroon72CDR.jpg


that looks like it's from the L.A. Forum Nicaragua Benefit show....w/the amps covered

I've got a '69 and love it.Bought it about twelve years ago for $1000 Canadian.I've never had tuning problems with it and the sound, though kind of one-dimensional, is definitely good and raunchy. Lots of other guitar heroes over the years have played them as well ie. Johnny Thunders, Wayne Kramer, Joe Perry, Tom Verlaine, Cyril Jordan, Greg Ginn and, more recently, Dave Grohl, to name a few.

I tried one out in Denmark Street in London the other day. It was £1200 and well worth it. The pickup changes out without needing to re-wire or take the strings off (single coil / humbucker).

I didn't buy it so it night still be there. If not, they were planning on buying some more.

Niklas Wrote:
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> Iv'e got one, but it's not good. Had to replace
> the neck, but still not good. The sound is
> increadible, but it's impossible to get it tuned.
> It's an original. I'm very very sad, because it's
> so cool!


perhaps this is why Keith was so out of tune on the 1969 Tour ??

>
> You can directly order them from Japan, and even
> with all taxes added it will be cheaper than
> buying them from a retailer in Denmark.
>
> Mathijs


Can you please recommend a website? I'd like to check them out as well. Much appreciated.

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> [i96.photobucket.com]
> h02.jpg


great shot.....is that a still from Gimme Shelter?

Mathijs Wrote:
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> I haven't played these new ones yet. I would
> expect a simular quality to the original ones,
> allthough the hard rock maple for the neck, and
> the Brazilian rosewood used in the 1960's was of a
> quality that is encredibly rare and expensive
> these days. But generally speaking, it will be of
> around the same quality. Hey, if it's good enough
> for Ron Wood, it's good enough for us!
>
> They go for $1400 in the U.S., so expect to pay
> around $1000 when ordered directly in Japan.
>
> Mathijs


Thanks. Remember when we talked about fretboards some time ago? You told me that when I buy a cheap(-ish) guitar, the fretboard is always made out of cheap tree and metal. That's not the case with this one I hope?
BTW: What more would I need to get the 1969 guitar sound? I mean if I got the Dan Armstrong. What amp should be used? Pedals?

JumpingKentFlash

sjs12 Wrote:
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> I tried one out in Denmark Street in London the
> other day. It was £1200 and well worth it. The
> pickup changes out without needing to re-wire or
> take the strings off (single coil / humbucker).
>
> I didn't buy it so it night still be there. If
> not, they were planning on buying some more.


What store in Denmark Street? There are a few... :-)

JumpingKentFlash Wrote:
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> Mathijs Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I haven't played these new ones yet. I would
> > expect a simular quality to the original ones,
> > allthough the hard rock maple for the neck, and
> > the Brazilian rosewood used in the 1960's was of
> a
> > quality that is encredibly rare and expensive
> > these days. But generally speaking, it will be
> of
> > around the same quality. Hey, if it's good
> enough
> > for Ron Wood, it's good enough for us!
> >
> > They go for $1400 in the U.S., so expect to pay
> > around $1000 when ordered directly in Japan.
> >
> > Mathijs
>
>
> Thanks. Remember when we talked about fretboards
> some time ago? You told me that when I buy a
> cheap(-ish) guitar, the fretboard is always made
> out of cheap tree and metal. That's not the case
> with this one I hope?
> BTW: What more would I need to get the 1969 guitar
> sound? I mean if I got the Dan Armstrong. What amp
> should be used? Pedals?

I guess the guitar is made from good materials, but probably not as good as the original. Dan Armstrong wanted to build a guitar that was always of equal quality and tone, and could be build fast and cheap. This was the reason he choose perspex for the body and Canadian hard rock maple for the neck. However, after almost 40 years, all the really good hard rock maple is gone, and if you can find it, it really is expensive. So, nowadays only the real expensive Custom Shop guitars uses wood that is comparable to wood used in the 60's. BUt still, the Japanse use good wood and are excellent craftsmen, so I would expect a really good guitar.

In order to get that Keith sound, you only need an Armstrong guitar and an Ampeg V2, V4 or SVT. That's all, no pedals are needed.

Mathijs

Mathijs Wrote:
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> I guess the guitar is made from good materials,
> but probably not as good as the original. Dan
> Armstrong wanted to build a guitar that was always
> of equal quality and tone, and could be build fast
> and cheap. This was the reason he choose perspex
> for the body and Canadian hard rock maple for the
> neck. However, after almost 40 years, all the
> really good hard rock maple is gone, and if you
> can find it, it really is expensive. So, nowadays
> only the real expensive Custom Shop guitars uses
> wood that is comparable to wood used in the 60's.
> BUt still, the Japanse use good wood and are
> excellent craftsmen, so I would expect a really
> good guitar.
>
> In order to get that Keith sound, you only need an
> Armstrong guitar and an Ampeg V2, V4 or SVT.
> That's all, no pedals are needed.
>
> Mathijs


Thanks for all the info. One last thing though: Can you redirect me to a Japanese website where I can buy one of these Dan Armstrong guitars (In order to get the tax advantage and low price)? JustInCaseBandDK and I are both thinking of buying Dan Armstrong guitars and thought that it would maybe get even cheaper overall if we ordered the guitars together.

And BTW: What's "best out of V2, V4 and SVT?

JumpingKentFlash



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JumpingKentFlash Wrote:
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> Mathijs Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I guess the guitar is made from good materials,
> > but probably not as good as the original. Dan
> > Armstrong wanted to build a guitar that was
> always
> > of equal quality and tone, and could be build
> fast
> > and cheap. This was the reason he choose
> perspex
> > for the body and Canadian hard rock maple for
> the
> > neck. However, after almost 40 years, all the
> > really good hard rock maple is gone, and if you
> > can find it, it really is expensive. So,
> nowadays
> > only the real expensive Custom Shop guitars
> uses
> > wood that is comparable to wood used in the
> 60's.
> > BUt still, the Japanse use good wood and are
> > excellent craftsmen, so I would expect a really
> > good guitar.
> >
> > In order to get that Keith sound, you only need
> an
> > Armstrong guitar and an Ampeg V2, V4 or SVT.
> > That's all, no pedals are needed.
> >
> > Mathijs
>
>
> Thanks for all the info. One last thing though:
> Can you redirect me to a Japanese website where I
> can buy one of these Dan Armstrong guitars (In
> order to get the tax advantage and low price)?
> JustInCaseBandDK and I are both thinking of buying
> Dan Armstrong guitars and thought that it would
> maybe get even cheaper overall if we ordered the
> guitars together.
>
> And BTW: What's "best out of V2, V4 and SVT?

I would contact Ishibashi, and do a search in www.google.co.jp.

About the amps: A V-2 or VT-40 (a V2 with 4*10 speakers) are best, as they have the lowest power rating and won't blow your ears out. V4's and VT-22 are good to, but you'll need an extra power soak. SVT's are just too big these days for guitar. They're excellent for bass though.

Mathijs

Thank u.

JumpingKentFlash

JumpingKentFlash,

here is secondhand instrument web in our country. please try this.
[www.digimart.net]
[www.gakkido.jp]



That's Ibanez.

Niklas Wrote:
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> sjs12 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I tried one out in Denmark Street in London the
> > other day. It was £1200 and well worth it.
> The
> > pickup changes out without needing to re-wire
> or
> > take the strings off (single coil / humbucker).
> >
> > I didn't buy it so it night still be there. If
> > not, they were planning on buying some more.
>
>
> What store in Denmark Street? There are a few...
> :-)

Actually, it was a shop on Charing Cross Road just around the corner. It has a bit downstairs selling hi-tech recording gear and a guitar shop upstairs. Just head south from Denmark St and you'll find it.