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"Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: June 22, 2006 16:07

Anybody have any idea which speakers Keith has in his Tweed Twins ?
[I've never seen a picture that catches them from the right angle ]
or even more obscurely...which variety of 6L6 tubes he uses ?

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: June 22, 2006 16:17

why thank you kindly, Spud! i just received this photo from the gallant Mathijs, and i was wondering what thread to post it in. :E
i doubt it satisfies your anorak need [backup wail: anorak need!], but ... well, here it is!


- Manchester september 5th 2003 by Rich/WeSellGuitars (courtesy of Mathijs)



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2007-09-20 17:28 by with sssoul.

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: June 22, 2006 17:22

Nice picture, Mathjis/Miss Sssoul.
Do you have more?

btw, is that another bullet hole on the right speaker? winking smiley

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: ChrisM ()
Date: June 22, 2006 18:08

Love those old valve amps! Great sound and much warmer than transistor amps. They just don't make them like that anymore.

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: June 22, 2006 18:13

>> Do you have more? <<

smile: can't get enough, eh? but that's all Mathijs sent me for now.

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: ChelseaDrugstore ()
Date: June 22, 2006 18:35

That's an old amp. First I was going to say it was just a speaker cabinet, but isn't it one of those ancient models that has the row of knobs kind of recessed, running along the top. I can't get an idea of relative size but I wonder if those are 10" speakers.

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: Pohan ()
Date: June 22, 2006 18:39

ChelseaDrugstore Wrote:
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> That's an old amp. First I was going to say it was
> just a speaker cabinet, but isn't it one of those
> ancient models that has the row of knobs kind of
> recessed, running along the top. I can't get an
> idea of relative size but I wonder if those are
> 10" speakers.


No thats two 12" speakers ... and sure its old .. actually on of keiths is serialnumber 003 if I'm not mistaken .. third ever made

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: stone-relics ()
Date: June 22, 2006 18:48

If its still stock, which I imagine it is, they are Jensen speakers...

JR

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: June 22, 2006 18:57

Thank you very kindly. I can't see the picture from here at work. I'll have a look when I get home ;^)

Jensen P12R, P12Q & P12N were all variously stock with "narrow panel" Twins ...but I'm wondering what's in them now.
I've read Ceaser Diaz quoted as saying that Keith was using Celestions in them at one point...but his recent tone doesn't sound like Celestions to me.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-06-22 19:06 by Spud.

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: Reptile ()
Date: June 22, 2006 18:58

Say sssoul, isn't there a law against red hot GUITAR PORN?!

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: June 22, 2006 19:01

Why is this an "Anorak" question?
is it raining?

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: June 22, 2006 19:11

Sorry open-G.

"Anorak" is UK slang for sad folks [like me] with nothing better to do than study the minutae and trivia of their particular interest to the point of obsession.
The "Anorak" bit comes from the traditional attire of train spotters and bird watchers...who very much typify this odd behaviour ;^)

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: TeleK ()
Date: June 22, 2006 19:16

mathjis mention some months ago, that ronnie and keith are using
the victoria custom amps.
[www.victoriaamp.com]

-----------------------------------------------------
Oh, give me the beat, boys, and free my soul
I wanna get lost in your rock and roll and drift away

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: June 22, 2006 19:19

Haha - ok, now I get it & can join ya on this one
"sad folks [like me] with nothing better to do than study the minutae and trivia of their particular interest to the point of obsession."

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: ChelseaDrugstore ()
Date: June 22, 2006 20:33

I learnd soemthing interesting. The "Anorak" thing; thanks for clarification spud.

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: June 22, 2006 20:40

TeleK Wrote:
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> mathjis mention some months ago, that ronnie and
> keith are using
> the victoria custom amps.
> [www.victoriaamp.com]


Yes, but that was about the amps on b-stage at the licks tour.
now where did that thread go?

Keith or his technician wouldn't stick a "Fender Twin Amp" sign on a Victoria amp

aw - there it is
[iorr.org]

(good search engine, bv)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-06-22 20:44 by open-g.

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: TeleK ()
Date: June 22, 2006 21:19

ok thanx open g
by the way has anybodymore picture of the equipment
(rack,amp settings???, effects so on)
i found in my "archive" an old guitar magazin from the voodoo tour,
where you can see some of the equipment.
i have to go to afriend of mine to scan it. when it is finished
i´ll post them here

-----------------------------------------------------
Oh, give me the beat, boys, and free my soul
I wanna get lost in your rock and roll and drift away

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: June 22, 2006 21:50

I have several pictures of amps of the Stones, including set-ups etc. I will send them to With Sssoul, and hopefully she will put them up.

About speakers and tubes: I have no infrormation at all about that. My guess is (nothing more than a guess), that Pierre will only buy the best of the best, and that is the black base 1950's RCA 6L6 valves, costing about $400 per pair (if you can find them).

Mathijs

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: TeleK ()
Date: June 22, 2006 22:14

here are the pics ( equipment from voodoo lounge tour )
sorry the text is in german and not complete.i only scanned the sites with pics.
if anybody is interested, i can scan the text and upload it somewhere.

to mathjis,
can you send me some pics of the equipment, i would be glad.
by the way ,
do you have experiences with native instruments guitar rig 2?

thank you





taken from the german musicmagayine Guitar & Bass 9/1995

-----------------------------------------------------
Oh, give me the beat, boys, and free my soul
I wanna get lost in your rock and roll and drift away



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-06-22 22:17 by TeleK.

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: June 22, 2006 22:38

nice, TeleK - thanks!
[peering hard at the small print:] at the bottom of the first page you posted
there are two singlecut LP Juniors and one singlecut LP Special -
i know Keith used those two Juniors a lot in 94/95,
but the last (only!) time i think i saw him with a singlecut Special was in 78.
so did Keith use that Special on the VL tour?? or is that Ronnie's?
(sorry to invade an amp thread with a guitar question, but i can't help it!)


"What do you want - what?!"
- Keith

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: TeleK ()
Date: June 22, 2006 22:41

i can send zou the pages in a bigger format if you want
please send me zour email adress ,zou find mine on iorr
your question. i dont know

-----------------------------------------------------
Oh, give me the beat, boys, and free my soul
I wanna get lost in your rock and roll and drift away

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: June 23, 2006 10:53

TeleK Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> here are the pics ( equipment from voodoo lounge
> tour )
> sorry the text is in german and not complete.i
> only scanned the sites with pics.
> if anybody is interested, i can scan the text and
> upload it somewhere.
>
> to mathjis,
> can you send me some pics of the equipment, i
> would be glad.
> by the way ,
> do you have experiences with native instruments
> guitar rig 2?

Would you be so kind to snd me the larger format scans of you these picturs? I will send you the pictures I have of course. My address:
stonesreview@tiscalimail.nl

Mahijs

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: June 23, 2006 11:50

>> i can send you the pages in a bigger format if you want <<

thanks TeleK - i don't read German, so the bigger format won't help me much,
but i appreciate the offer!


"What do you want - what?!"
- Keith

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: ChelseaDrugstore ()
Date: June 23, 2006 14:22

TeleK, do you rememebr who played the Armstrong on Voodoo and on what tune?

"...no longer shall you trudge 'cross my peaceful mind."

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: bruno ()
Date: June 23, 2006 14:30

Well, please let me jump here to say that it would be great having those bigger images here or having any link to them...

[There'll be no wedding today...]

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: June 23, 2006 15:11

>> who played the Armstrong on Voodoo <<

Ronnie - well, it's Ronnie's guitar.
i hope someone else knows what he used it for on the VL tour.


"What do you want - what?!"
- Keith



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2006-06-23 15:19 by with sssoul.

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: June 23, 2006 17:07

with sssoul,
Don't apologise for interupting an amp thread with guitar talk.
As Keith says..."it's the combination of the guitar and amp that's where the magic is".
You can't seperate one from the other...or have an obsession with one without the other ;^)

Re: "Anorak" question
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: June 27, 2006 10:53

smile: if you say so, Spud! :E
a few new shots from Mathijs that don't seem to belong anywhere else ...


- dec 1988 Guitar World, courtesy of Mathijs


- courtesy of Mathijs


- 2002 or 03, courtesy of Mathijs

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: March 19, 2007 21:07

Thought I'd add info about some of the amps Keith(and the others) used during late 1966 - early 69. My favourite era of the band! tongue sticking out smiley

PART ONE: Between the Buttons

During the early moths of 1967 The Rolling Stones as well as The Beatles and The Hollies, were given a whole new backline of the latest all solid state Vox amplifiers.

For a few years Vox had been experimenting with the use of solid state technology which allowed for the use of a variety of on board effects in the amps such as tremolo, fuzz/distortion, top boost and the new 3-position MRB(mid range boost) which had a set range of tones similar to their ground breaking wah wah pedal.

They had previously issued The Beatles, The Hollies and The Troggs with Vox's UL- 7 Series amplifiers which were a combination of both valve and solid state technology.

I am unaware of when Vox issued these amps to the stones, or if the band actually bought them, but the band can be seen using them during their UK tour in Autumn 1966 and during the Olympic Studio sessions for Between the Buttons.





It looks like Keith used the UL-760 live and in the studio, but there is the possibility that he would have used the smaller UL-730 for studio work during the Between the Buttons sessions, but this is just speculation on my part.


UL-7120


UL-730

These amps appear to have been retired following some tv appearances in January - February 1967 and the introduction of the latest all solid state amps courtesy of Vox.


Brian with Gibson non-reverse Firebird and Vox UL-760





Edited 7 time(s). Last edit at 2007-05-25 22:02 by His Majesty.

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: March 19, 2007 21:51

PART TWO: Their European Satanic Majesties

As previously mentioned, The Rolling Stones were given a new backline by Vox in early 1967(source Beat Instrumental). The first appearance of these amps was during their 1967 European tour. Keith and Brain used one 100 watt Vox Supreme each and Bill used the 100 watt Super Foundation bass amp.




'warsaw april 13th 1967 by Stanislaw Dabrowiecki, courtesy of sssoul'
Note Bill's bass amp is on the ground in both pics.






note Brian is also using a Fender Dual Showman(it appears for the Rickenbacker 12 string)

Following the European tour the band used these amps for the recording sessions for the We Love You single and Their Satanic Majesties Request album.

I don't at this time have any photo's of the band in the studio with these amps, but you can see Keith sitting on and playing through a 30 watt Vox Conqueror in the We Love You film.











1967 Vox Conqueror...







Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 2007-03-25 01:42 by His Majesty.

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