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Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: August 2, 2007 14:39

RobberBride Wrote:
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> By the way, the Fulltone
> TTE, which songs does Keith use it? If I
> understand it correctly its "just" a delay - does
> it do anything else? Please explain, you great
> ones.
> RB.

Well you've allready highlighted the >>"just"<< a delay...
It's a great and warm delay, very special - but even if the delay is off, the TTE's all tube circuitry is still in the signal path.
so it adds richness and vibe, plus up to 15dB of boost to the signal before the amp.
you could also call it a tube preamp or line driver.
The delay fx can be used very subtle, so it might be on - on quite a lot of songs.

IMO Ronnie's sound has improved since last year, which may be the result of him joining the TTE club.
He bought one in November last year.

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: August 2, 2007 14:45

A friend of mine has this TTE thing, and, as open G suggests, he keeps it always on, giving a slight "space" effect + fattening up the sound. And I think that this is what happens with Keith as well. It truly is a great effect. Fulltone does some great pedals.

On the bad side, it costs a fortune!

C

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: RobberBride ()
Date: August 2, 2007 15:17

Thanks a lot, both of you.
Yes, it really costs a lot.
It have to go on the extended wish list then, in case of a not very likely, but sudden rush of gold.

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: August 2, 2007 22:52

RobberBride Wrote:
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> Nice info Liddas. I'm extremely tempted to buy A
> MasterBlaster myself, now at least we know it adds
> the creamy richness winking smiley By the way, the Fulltone
> TTE, which songs does Keith use it? If I
> understand it correctly its "just" a delay - does
> it do anything else? Please explain, you great
> ones.

It indeed is only a delay, albeit probably the best ever delay in the world. It's an old fashion tape delay, but now made with modern materials. They cost $1000 a piece, and sound absolutely brilliant. You can use it to fatten up the sound. If you use it at around 10 ms it doubles the guitar. At 60 ms you get a rockabilly sound. I don't know on which songs he uses it.

Mathijs



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-08-02 22:55 by Mathijs.

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: benon ()
Date: August 2, 2007 23:32

In my opinion he doesn`t use it or it is barely audible....There is another thread about new Keiths,small Oahu amps ....I haven`t heard any difference in his sound from the beginning of ABB except it is worse now....where is this full, rich overdrive ( Rio Jumping Jack Flash for example.....) ? i think that he is forgetting how to use volume pot in his guitar and he`s got big problems with his fingers ( using open-G)At least his sound is great in PIB for sure.....

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: Telecaster_man ()
Date: August 3, 2007 19:33








Has anybody seen these videos on youtube(specially the first one)?
I think they are both from Brno few weeks ago...look at it,the first one is very interesant...(is no Keith but..)

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Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: liddas ()
Date: August 3, 2007 19:47

Telecaster_man:

when the cameraman started moving to the back of the of the amp, it was like seeing Sharon Stone unbuttoning her shirt ... unforunately we didn't see the nipples, but great vid all the same!

The fulltone was on, by the way!

C

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: RobberBride ()
Date: August 4, 2007 12:47

liddas Wrote:

> when the cameraman started moving to the back of
> the of the amp, it was like seeing Sharon Stone
> unbuttoning her shirt ...

How true, how true...

Btw, Looking at a Fender Twin-Amp on Fenders own pages (http://www.fender.com/products//search.php?partno=8140500000), the 12" speakers are displayed differently than Keith's. Keith has both on the same height whereas one speaker is higher than the other on the Fender 57' web pages. Are Keith's customized? Is it done to ease miking?

Also, did anybody got hold of larger scans of the German Voodoo Lounge equipment scans? Great if somebody could post'em smiling smiley On these scans, Keiths amps are called "Twin Reverbs". Are they reverbs or is it a misprint?

Best, RB

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: Mathijs ()
Date: August 4, 2007 13:14

RobberBride Wrote:
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> Btw, Looking at a Fender Twin-Amp on Fenders own
> pages
> (http://www.fender.com/products//search.php?partno
> =8140500000), the 12" speakers are displayed
> differently than Keith's. Keith has both on the
> same height whereas one speaker is higher than the
> other on the Fender 57' web pages. Are Keith's
> customized? Is it done to ease miking?

The narrow panel '55 to '57 Twin amps had one speaker placed lower on the baffle than the other, the big box Twin amps of '58 to '60 had the speakers alined. Both Keith's amps are big box amps.

> On these scans, Keiths
> amps are called "Twin Reverbs". Are they reverbs
> or is it a misprint?

No, Keith's amps read 'Fender Twin Amp' on the label. Fender didn't add reverb to their line of amps until 1963 (two years after Ampegby the way).

Mathijs

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: RobberBride ()
Date: August 4, 2007 13:29

Mathijs Wrote:

>
> The narrow panel '55 to '57 Twin amps had one
> speaker placed lower on the baffle than the other,
> the big box Twin amps of '58 to '60 had the
> speakers alined. Both Keith's amps are big box
> amps.
>

Great, thanks for clarifying that to a rookie smiling smiley

RB

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: Telecaster_man ()
Date: August 4, 2007 16:12

Yeah and the Big box Twins have 80w output,and the 55-57 have 40w(aka low-power Twin)

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Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: rs1806 ()
Date: August 7, 2007 20:17

there you can see and hear them...




Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: Telecaster_man ()
Date: August 8, 2007 21:37

I read a Keith interview for Guitar player on the 90´s that he got the drive thru a Champ and it goes then trhu one of the Twins,so the other one is clean...what do yo know about that?i saw many tme Keef got a Champ just behind the Twins when they´re playíng live

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Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: August 8, 2007 21:48

>>i saw many tme Keef got a Champ just behind the Twins when they´re playíng live<<

Pics Teleman, pics.
I haven't seen a Champ in his setup yet.

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: Telecaster_man ()
Date: August 9, 2007 17:55

I haven´t got any pics but you can see it on the Four flicks documentary in last chapter when technician is tuning Keith black es-355,on the 2007 video from Wercheter that broadcasted danish tv on the 00:35 - 00:36 and best on 00:54 seconds before they go on stage,and in other videos

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Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: RobberBride ()
Date: August 9, 2007 19:48

Telecaster_man Wrote:
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> (...) you can see it on the 2007 video from Wercheter that broadcasted danish
> tv on the 00:35 - 00:36 ...(...)

What video? Where?

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: August 10, 2007 01:18

Is it this you meant?
from FF documentary.


Pierre, I assume.
Can someone confirm?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-08-10 03:00 by open-g.

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: August 10, 2007 11:45

yep, sure enough looks like Pierre - if that's what you're asking for confirmation of

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: rs1806 ()
Date: August 10, 2007 11:59

I don't know where to ask this question, so I try it here:
which amp should I buy, to sound similiar to Keith. I have a Fender Frontman 210R, and I do not sound like Keith at all. It should be a Practise-Amp, so it needn`t be loud.. (and not too expensive!! ;-)) Any ideas? Thanks for your help...

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: August 10, 2007 15:10

Have a look at what amps other IORRians have...
[www.iorr.org]

...and how would Keith sound if he played over your Frontman?
I bet he'd sound like Keith winking smiley
ok, maybe he wouldn't be to happy with it.

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: August 10, 2007 15:12

with sssoul Wrote:
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> yep, sure enough looks like Pierre - if that's
> what you're asking for confirmation of


Thanks my dear, that's what I was asking.

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: Telecaster_man ()
Date: August 10, 2007 18:13

yeah this from Four Flicks,but on the Werchter video i got from RO tracker you watch it better behind the Twins but i don´t know exactly if is on or off ,but is there

And what about the amps they are using on Austin mini-doc fromBiggest bang..i think Keith is using a Tweed Deluxe or Havard maybe?.
But Ronnie´s amp??

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Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: Telecaster_man ()
Date: August 17, 2007 17:38

Telecaster_man Wrote:
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> yeah this from Four Flicks,but on the Werchter
> video i got from RO tracker you watch it better
> behind the Twins but i don´t know exactly if is on
> or off ,but is there
>
> And what about the amps they are using on Austin
> mini-doc fromBiggest bang..i think Keith is using
> a Tweed Deluxe or Havard maybe?.
> But Ronnie´s amp??




Don´t you know nothing about it??

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Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: September 20, 2007 16:36

Keith's rig 2007, it does change from time to time or leg of the tour...


pic courtesty WeSellGuitars

on top of the rig on the left looks like an Reverb Unit?
..and next to it could be an active monitor?

what I've identified so far...
and still some more blancs to fill out.

No.1 ? left same as right 1 + 2.

No.2
Alesis MasterLink ML9600
Master Hard Disc Recorder
[www.alesis.de]

No.3
Tascam
CD-01U Pro CD/MP3 Player 1HE symmetr.Out analog/digital

Right.
No.1 ?
No.2 ?
No.3 ? same as 1 and left #1
No.4 TC 1140 Parametric Equalizer/Preamp
No.5 ? (Loop)

No.6 ? Rate,Wave, ?,Depth, I/O, Drive, Tone, Level,Fuzz, Volume

No.7 ?
Intensity, Speed, Delay, Dry,?

No.8
TOPEKA! ?

No.9 Lexicon MPX 100
MPX 100 is a true stereo dual-channel procesor

No.10 + 11
Shure... probably wireless gear

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Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: September 20, 2007 16:47

thank you WeSellGuitars! it looks like this was taken at Brno (july 18th 07), right?
same time/place as those youtube clips Telecasterman posted for us above:


and



edit: sure enough, those are Rich's/WeSellGuitars' youtube clips -
thanks & praises!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2007-09-20 19:54 by with sssoul.

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: wesellguitars ()
Date: September 20, 2007 17:24

with sssoul Wrote:
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> why thank you kindly, Spud! i just received this
> photo from the gallant Mathijs, and i was
> wondering what thread to post it in. :E
> i doubt it satisfies your anorak need , but ...
> well, here it is!
>
> [img.photobucket.com]
> guitars/Keith_Twin_mathijs.jpg
> - courtesy of Mathijs (don't know who took it
> when, sorry!)


That's my photograph taken at Manchester on the forty licks tour.

That's Keith's favourite amp serial #0003

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: September 20, 2007 17:26

thank you, Rich - for the photos and the information
i'll fix that photo credit right away

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: wesellguitars ()
Date: September 20, 2007 17:38

open-g Wrote:
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> Is it this you meant?
> from FF documentary.
>
> [i20.photobucket.com]
> stageFFdocu.jpg
> Pierre, I assume.
> Can someone confirm?


This is Pierre at his workstation and it's located right behind Charlies drum riser, not behind Keiths amps. The Champ is there for the tech's use only.

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: September 20, 2007 18:51

Yeah, I always thought that was real class...
..A tweed Champ just so the tech can tell the guitars are working ;^)

Re: "Anorak" question re Keith's amps.
Posted by: wesellguitars ()
Date: September 20, 2007 19:40

Spud Wrote:
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> Yeah, I always thought that was real class...
> ..A tweed Champ just so the tech can tell the
> guitars are working ;^)


I take a Vibro Champ out when I'm tech'ing - i'm not that fussy.

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