Well I've got all the Rubin/Cash cd's and there fab. Just bought the Neil Diamond one and its the best I've heard in a long time. Rubin and the Stones would be magic.... he also mentioned he'd like to work with Dylan.
Oh My My!!!!! That sounds SOOOOOOOOOO great!!!!!! Now that the contract with Virgin is expiring, maybe they're more willing to make records with more artistic freedom...let's pray it's true!
"got to be worked on don't have no bark nor bite..."
If you read Rubin's recollections of working with Jagger, its quite evident that (sadly) the chances of him producing a Stones album are less than zero.
Jagger obviously is very much surrounded by yes-men and didnt take kindly to being told that he could write better lyrics!
Pity. Rick is the one producer capable more than anyone else of making a great Stones record. Despite any problems he had with Mick, he still got his best ever solo album out of it.
If my memory serves me well Rick Rubin produced Jagger's 3rd solo album - the blue one, can't remember the title, "Godess at the Doorway" is it? - and word has it they didn't get along very well. RR would be perfect for The Stones and I'm sure they would make a great album but if they don't work well together it's not gonna happen......
'If my memory serves me well Rick Rubin produced Jagger's 3rd solo album - the blue one, can't remember the title, "Godess at the Doorway" is it?'.... are you having a laugh?
Naw, I'm in an "Altered State" at the moment. What did I get wrong? I see GAZZA and I posted basically the same thoughts at the same time. Correct me if I f**ked up... (it's all from memory so I might get titles or whatever wrong)
Ah Ablett, Yeah, Sorry...Just checked Towerrecords.com and the blue one is "Wandering Spirit". "Goddess" is the latest, shows how long it's been since I listened to those, Sorry , my mistake (actually, I like the solo stuff a bit more than most on here - must be the chemicals)
I don't think that Rubin and the Stones could pair well.
As a matter of fact Spirit is a good album, with good rockers, but it sounds 100% jagger. If compared to the rest of MJ's solo production I do not note ALL this BIG difference.
AND I do not think that ABB could have been THAT different with RR on board.
Stripped down it is already stripped down.
The quality of the music/words is (or should be) up to the artists. I mean ain't the Kemsey who did Tattoo You the same man who did Steel Wheels?
If Mick and Keith wanted to do prepare the work all by themselves without the rest of the band as they did, I don't think that a hairy producer could make them change idea. Besides, unless he is also a mighty healer, I doubt that he could have had Charlie joining in earlier in the making of the album.
RR is one hell of a producer, but he too loves his drums and bass to be high in the mix, the "compressed" somehow plastic sound of the guitars, and, as a consequence, his works somehow miss the "air" which is a vital element of the stones best works.
First time I heard about Rick Rubin, was 20 years ago (gee, times flies...!!) and he produced an american Heavy metal band called Slayer with their, considered classic album in the genre, "Reign in Blood".
Does anybody have any links to articles where Rubin or Jagger talk about the making of Wandering Spirit? I've always heard secondhand that they didn't get along, but I'd love to read more about it because I think WS is such a great record.
Totally agree w/ liddas here. WS is a fine Jagger album, but ABB is 'stripped down' compared to B2B - in terms of the Stones playing w/out extra musicians aside from Darryl and, occasionally, Chuck (the fewest extras since Some Girls)...IF it were an analog recording, IF all four Stones were involved from the start of a project - which Mick indicated he did not want this time around...ABB is still a very strong album, and I don't see how RR or anybody else could have influenced it in a significantly different direction. Just keep Matt Clifford out of the studio...
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2006-03-11 17:37 by john r.
Well, Rick's sound has a lot to do w/ tones. He gets a warm, intimate organic sound. ABB is stripped down but I think the drums (mainly the snare) are way to clangy, almost abrasive. Charlie's playing is great, it's just the EQ or miking or whatever that I don't like. It's things like that that Rick would get differently.
On the other hand, I prefer the production of the last AC/DC album (by the Young's uncle) to the previous album, Ballbreaker, which was by Rick Rubin. He buried their trademark backing vocals. However, Ballbreaker was the best sounding album they had since the early '80s songwriting aside.
So, are The Stones doomed to mediocrity for the remainder of their recording career?
I'm gonna quit here before I get into anymore howevers or on the other hands...