A nice rarity for everyone from Roseland Ballroom 30th September 2002

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Thanks Valeswood!

Holy shit, this is tremendous!

A little confusion coming out of the first verse, but the feeling of the song, plus the vocals, WOW!

The problem isn't that the Stones aren't willing to do gems like these live, it's that a huge portion of the audience simply doesn't know them, as is obvious here. Strong cheers from the crowd because the song sounds so GOOD, but you can tell 2/3 of the people were born after it was released and simply never heard the tune prior to that moment.

Thanks SO much Valeswood for uploading this for us!

scaffer Wrote:
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> The problem isn't that the Stones aren't willing
> to do gems like these live, it's that a huge
> portion of the audience simply doesn't know them,
> as is obvious here. Strong cheers from the crowd
> because the song sounds so GOOD, but you can tell
> 2/3 of the people were born after it was released
> and simply never heard the tune prior to that
> moment.
>
>

Why is that a problem? Haven't you been to many concerts where you didn't know the song and still enjoyed the hell out of it?

Thanks. I was at that show. I couldn;t beleive my ears. I didn't realize what they were playing until it was 1/2 over. I mean...who would expect to hear that song!!

i second that, Roseland was a great night. Waited on line for a couple of hours, then part of a mad dash to the stage when they let us in. Sat crosslegged on the floor for another hour plus, then a second surge when a few people decided it was time to stand, but that left me about 15 feet from center stage. well worth all the "pain!!" Its nice to be among the few ever to hear it live (hearing it on a boot doesnt count!!)

T&A:

I was there at Altamont when they played 'Brown Sugar' for the first time (not to mention 'The Sun Is Shining'). I definitely enjoyed the hell out of both.

So yeah, I can certainly appreciate new/lesser known tunes!

My fault for not being clearer in my earlier post.

The Stones can play LOTS of great new and old songs, but they clearly don't want to if they sense the audience won't be ecstatic about them.

So my point is: let's not be harsh on the boys if, on THIS tour, they keep the setlist more accessible to the 75% of the audience that doesn't know 'Sway,' 'Moonlight Mile,' 'Connection,' 'You Got The Silver,' etc. etc. etc.

Do I want to hear them play 'She Smiled Sweetly' (or, for that matter, an accoustic version of 'I Am Waiting') at First Mariner Arena in Baltimore this February (smallest arena on the tour, BTW, and me and the spouse have tickets!): of course I do. But if they don't, I'll still take 'Start Me Up,' 'JJF,' 'ONNYA,' 'Rough Justice' ... even 'YGMR!!!'

Thanks.

scaffer Wrote:
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> >
> The Stones can play LOTS of great new and old
> songs, but they clearly don't want to if they
> sense the audience won't be ecstatic about them.
>
> So my point is: let's not be harsh on the boys if,
> on THIS tour, they keep the setlist more
> accessible to the 75% of the audience that doesn't
> know 'Sway,' 'Moonlight Mile,' 'Connection,' 'You
> Got The Silver,' etc. etc. etc.
>
>

bullshit. you're letting 'em off way too easy. they are coasting....you know it, they know it, the old lady down the hall knows it. it's time to demand that they get to work and stop throwing the same old, same old out there.

I remember a Dutch Jagger interview (Buch, 1985) where Mick mentioned She Smiled Sweetly. He calls it "rubbish" and one off the worst Stones songes ever. I think he's right!

T&A:

Since when don't the Rolling Stones get to coast?

Remember 'Flowers?'

Hell, remember 'Exile On Main Street?'

I mean, damn, if you want music with standards, go listen to Robbie Williams or Rudy Vallee (spelling wrong, I HOPE).

The Stones have been coasting since before they got their first record contract.

'Meet Me in the Bottom' some time.

They ROCKED at MCI Center this October. They'll rock in Baltimore this February.

If they don't rock you, well, maybe somebody will!!!

T&A Wrote:
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> scaffer Wrote:
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> > >
> > The Stones can play LOTS of great new and
> old
> > songs, but they clearly don't want to if
> they
> > sense the audience won't be ecstatic about
> them.
> >
> > So my point is: let's not be harsh on the
> boys if,
> > on THIS tour, they keep the setlist more
> > accessible to the 75% of the audience that
> doesn't
> > know 'Sway,' 'Moonlight Mile,' 'Connection,'
> 'You
> > Got The Silver,' etc. etc. etc.
> >
> >
>
> bullshit. you're letting 'em off way too easy.
> they are coasting....you know it, they know it,
> the old lady down the hall knows it. it's time to
> demand that they get to work and stop throwing the
> same old, same old out there.

Preach it, brother! Testify! I say amen! Amen! This board is filled with the holy spirit of setlist caring!

Get thee behind me, tired old warhorses! In the name of neglected material, I cast you out! We will put our caring hands on the Stones' boring setlist and it will be healed! Can I get an amen? I say, I say, can I get an amen? (Rolls on floor and begins speaking in tongues - Stones tongues).

Oh yeah, She Smiled Sweetly is a cool song. I kind of forgot about it until it was used in the movie Rushomore to great effect. Excellent live version!

sounds great!another rare addition missing from my collection!!thanks for the post.

T&A Wrote:
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> bullshit. you're letting 'em off way too easy.
> they are coasting....you know it, they know it,
> the old lady down the hall knows it. it's time to
> demand that they get to work and stop throwing the
> same old, same old out there.

Right on.

But the problem runs deeper than that, because "giving the people what they want" not only saps the mystery and drama and conceptual interest (yes, it's fun to see how altering a few tunes changes the way one hears, say, "Sympathy") out of the show--it saps the Stones' own enthusiasm and freshness.

It's funny: when confronted with the shrinking setlist, lots of people refer back to the adage: "always leave them wanting more." The Stones should bear that in mind when cooking up a predictable run through the FM radio favorites, NOT when considering how many songs to perform.

It's wrong to try and spend most of the night on the mountaintop--it only makes the warhorses themselves seem less special.

A follow-up:

I was at "Roseland" that night, as well.

For whatever it's worth, "She Smiled Sweetly" had been used very prominently in the film "The Royal Tenenbaums," which had been released earlier in 2002. I'm virtually certain that Jagger made reference to the movie during his introduction of the song.

That's one of the live highlights of the last 25 years for sure. A real beauty.

Always liked it...a true sleeping beauty....

Rev. - yep he definitely referenced the movie at Roseland.

please repost she smiled sweetly!

yes please it has expired

Please can i download it? It has expired!

Hey Scaffer,
or anyone who attended Altamont '69, please read this
[iorr.org]

'ere ya go
She smiled sweetly
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Thanks open-g!!

But terrible version. Like some school for singers. Everything that was great on Between, the low singing by Mick, the organ the mumbling, is gone and replaced by overambitous accented singing. Damn. Many thanks for the download anyway.

please rerepost SheSmiledSweetly!!! i get it later......

Wow, ohnonotyouagain.

I forgot how cool your recent post was! Honest, I'm not sufficiently advanced to know whether I'm being kissed or dissed (sincerely - I think you write circles around moi!).

But to follow up: I did attend the First Mariner show in Baltimore, and the honest truth is that the Rolling Stones (remember them?) turned it out.

Mick went LOCO on Midnight Rambler. He literally deafened the building with his screams in high B, the likes of which haven't been heard since approximately 1973 in Brussels (you're probably from there, or nearabouts, so I assume you know ...).

The prevailing question of the evening: Why the HELL would Mick go crazy and risk his physical health (mere hours before the Stones' scheduled performance at The Super Bowl) to get a rise from such a small market crowd? By the way, get a rise he most certainly did.

Apologies for bringing up ancient history (1 February of this f-ing year 2006).

Oh, and they played 'Love is Strong' as well. And the packed house was singing along. Again, apologies if people are offended that we weren't offended.

please "she smiled sweetly (live)"

go to hot stuff

Could anyone be kind enough to re-post the Roseland Ballroom version...?

Thanks guys!!!