And I am curious if the Berlin gig might face changes in date, gig location or even city (due to the concert Waldbühne next to Stadium at the same time)

Yes. It is surely different this year. Lots of dates and still no teaser. We will see.

Quote
jackflash27
Very curious if Vienna will be the tour closer or Paris. Any solid new rumors on the Vienna date??

Vienna dropped out of the list of rumoured venues a couple of weeks ago.

Quote
grzegorz67

Quote
jackflash27
Very curious if Vienna will be the tour closer or Paris. Any solid new rumors on the Vienna date??

Vienna dropped out of the list of rumoured venues a couple of weeks ago.

I know, but if you follow this board and other social media, you must have noticed some speculation that Vieann might happen after all.

When will you realize Vienna waits for you?

Quote
Topi
When will you realize Vienna waits for you?

Yes, time waits for no one, and it won't wait for thee

News seems to have slowed and the dates are feeling pretty firm, for the moment at least. Still just rumors, of course but is that consensus, that dates and places are pretty firm at this point?

Stones on three different local radio stations today, a good sign..

Quote
JN99
News seems to have slowed and the dates are feeling pretty firm, for the moment at least. Still just rumors, of course but is that consensus, that dates and places are pretty firm at this point?

I guess they want Barca to announce where El Clasico will be first?

Quote
jackflash27

Quote
grzegorz67

Quote
jackflash27
Very curious if Vienna will be the tour closer or Paris. Any solid new rumors on the Vienna date??

Vienna dropped out of the list of rumoured venues a couple of weeks ago.

I know, but if you follow this board and other social media, you must have noticed some speculation that Vieann might happen after all.

There were surpises with non rumored gigs and locations before like Waldbühne 2022...

If they can't do the last three shows, as planned for Bucharest and 2x Vienna, then an arena show or two at The Wiener Stadthalle (capacity 16,000) would be perfect for this tour. It is not a rumour, it is a dream, on my wish list.

They use to add an arena show at the end of the tour, 3-4 days after the last show, usually announced half-way on the tour.

Bjornulf

...a show for 16,000 people? that's a big dream...

Dreams to remember!

Quote
bv
If they can't do the last three shows, as planned for Bucharest and 2x Vienna, then an arena show or two at The Wiener Stadthalle (capacity 16,000) would be perfect for this tour. It is not a rumour, it is a dream, on my wish list.

They use to add an arena show at the end of the tour, 3-4 days after the last show, usually announced half-way on the tour.

So you mean they're planning to extend the tour with Bucharest and 2x Wien to a 17 date tour? That's not part of the dream?

Quote
MickDaseway
...a show for 16,000 people? that's a big dream...

I mean, they ended the tour in the Waldbühne in 2022 (21.000) and the New Thunder Ridge Nature Arena (18.000) last year. So it does not seem like an impossible dream.

The sentence with 14 shows is gone from the tour page!

Bucharest would be cool

Quote
hockenheim95
The sentence with 14 shows is gone from the tour page!

Maybe the 4xLondon shows could be on after all! No complaints here.

Stand by for three more pages of 'They should play X', creating a fantasy 27 show tour...

Quote
hockenheim95
The sentence with 14 shows is gone from the tour page!

I think since 20th january.

Also lots of changes in sentices regarding to tour breaks

Just means they are planning to tour and things change last minute.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-01-29 15:17 by PaintMonkeyManBlack.

Quote
bv
If they can't do the last three shows, as planned for Bucharest and 2x Vienna, then an arena show or two at The Wiener Stadthalle (capacity 16,000) would be perfect for this tour. It is not a rumour, it is a dream, on my wish list.

They use to add an arena show at the end of the tour, 3-4 days after the last show, usually announced half-way on the tour.

Coop Live in Manchester would be perfect - 25000 (nearly) but it's intimate and feels smaller. Great sound



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-01-29 15:38 by StonesSmeth99.

Ok I’ll start fantasizing about Bucharest.. One place I actually have family outside of the U.S. is Romania!

Quote
hockenheim95

Quote
bv
If they can't do the last three shows, as planned for Bucharest and 2x Vienna, then an arena show or two at The Wiener Stadthalle (capacity 16,000) would be perfect for this tour. It is not a rumour, it is a dream, on my wish list.

They use to add an arena show at the end of the tour, 3-4 days after the last show, usually announced half-way on the tour.

So you mean they're planning to extend the tour with Bucharest and 2x Wien to a 17 date tour? That's not part of the dream?

Absolutely NOT!

All I am saying is that after the final show in Paris July 19, there may be one more arena size show, like thay have added during the past 3 tours 2021/2022/2024.

If they announce such a show, then it will not happen until halfway into the tour.

I do not read their brains, and Mick does not call me about their tours, so all I say is what they use to do, based on past tours.

Bjornulf

Quote
hockenheim95
The sentence with 14 shows is gone from the tour page!

If you count the number of shows listed on IORR.org/tour25/ during the past ten days, the number is 7+7 = 14 shows.

Bjornulf

Quote
KeVvV2011

Quote
MickDaseway
...a show for 16,000 people? that's a big dream...

I mean, they ended the tour in the Waldbühne in 2022 (21.000) and the New Thunder Ridge Nature Arena (18.000) last year. So it does not seem like an impossible dream.

And Hollywood, FL. The common thread among all 3 are venues with fixed stages so they are basically "gravy" shows with much reduced operating costs. I remember speculating Hollywood, FL was done to make up for any possible shortfalls due to most shows being around 75% full. It was probably a booking strategy that made financial sense going forward. By 2024 I was just assuming it's a given before anything was announced or even speculated. That said, if I decide to go to Europe I will be tempting fate as usual and pushing it to the last possible minute.

Quote
KeVvV2011

Quote
MickDaseway
...a show for 16,000 people? that's a big dream...

I mean, they ended the tour in the Waldbühne in 2022 (21.000) and the New Thunder Ridge Nature Arena (18.000) last year. So it does not seem like an impossible dream.

It has been done in the last few tours: first announce all the dates, so that the mass of the public buys the tickets, and then once you have sold the large stadium, announce a "small" arena. Only in this way can it be done, if not, they should announce 10 arenas per city to meet the demand



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-01-29 17:12 by StonesBuenosAires.

The one single arena-sized show added to the end of the tours since 2021, is a type of show where the stage is there already, not to be built, i.e. they do not need the stadium tour crew anymore. They do still need lightening, sound etc crew, but it is scaled down, and cost is lower than stadium touring.

The gaps in the current tour schedule, as listed on IORR, may be there in case there are cancellations. We do all know what happened in 2022; the Amsterdam show got rescheduled, and Bern got cancelled, due to Mick having Covid-19. The current tour schedule, as listed on IORR, is having four - 4 - gaps where a show may get recheduled, in case of delays, illness, anything happening, laryngitis, infected finger, covid, anything that may happen to the principal band members age 80 or so.

Furthermore, they may choose to announce just 11 shows initially, then adding the remaining 3 shows based on ticket sales. Berlin, Munich, Paris are all sheduled in such a way that the schedule is open.

Bjornulf

Quote
bv
The one single arena-sized show added to the end of the tours since 2021, is a type of show where the stage is there already, not to be built, i.e. they do not need the stadium tour crew anymore. They do still need lightening, sound etc crew, but it is scaled down, and cost is lower than stadium touring.

The gaps in the current tour schedule, as listed on IORR, may be there in case there are cancellations. We do all know what happened in 2022; the Amsterdam show got rescheduled, and Bern got cancelled, due to Mick having Covid-19. The current tour schedule, as listed on IORR, is having four - 4 - gaps where a show may get recheduled, in case of delays, illness, anything happening, laryngitis, infected finger, covid, anything that may happen to the principal band members age 80 or so.

Furthermore, they may choose to announce just 11 shows initially, then adding the remaining 3 shows based on ticket sales. Berlin, Munich, Paris are all sheduled in such a way that the schedule is open.

BV: Any clues about the date they could officially announce the tour?

Reading between the lines it seem like they have options ready after copenhagen, london, munchen, berlin in place for both cancellations but also for second shows not happening.

So if AMS 1 will not sell great, 2 will not be announced, creating a break and to get to 14 gigs they will do an extra London, Munchen, Berlin, Paris or a place else, depending on sales progress.

Just hope they will announce Barcelona 1 first and (possible) add 2, and not the other way around. Which I think they will since otherwise the Barcelona-Real movement was not needed.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-01-29 17:19 by PaintMonkeyManBlack.

Quote
PaintMonkeyManBlack
Reading between the lines it seem like they have options ready after copenhagen, london, munchen, berlin in place for both cancellations but also for second shows not happening.

So if AMS 1 will not sell great, 2 will not be announced, creating a break and to get to 14 gigs they will do an extra London, Munchen, Berlin, Paris or a place else, depending on sales progress.

Just hope they will announce Barcelona 1 first and (possible) add 2, and not the other way around. Which I think they will since otherwise the Barcelona-Real movement was not needed.

I can see this