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treaclefingers
Weirdly I see it at £22.62. I wonder why that is?
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treaclefingers
Weirdly I see it at £22.62. I wonder why that is?
It depends on shipping costs - when I change the delivery to Canada, it's £ 22.62 in my web browsers (instead of £ 27.14).
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SonicDreamer
Hi,
Most of you probably have it already, but the Hackney Diamonds CD and Blu-Ray Audio Box Set is currently at the lowest price it has ever been on Amazon.co.uk.
Even last month it was between £38.00 and £45.00. ASIN: B0CGXNGYKN
To clarify, the price was £27.14 when I posted this.
Hackney Diamonds CD & Blu-ray Box Set Amazon.co.uk
Cheers,
SonicD
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Taylor1I hear very little difference between Jagger’s vocals on the bootleg tracks and Get Yer Ya Ya’s Out .And you are overstating the overdubs.Arr they on every track? So if it bothers you, listen to the bootlegs.They show a great band playing great.There is also the Street Fighting Man on YouTube from one of the MSG shows where Mick yells at the end,”We Gotta Go”,which is not on the Ya Ya’s album which is better and has the original vocals.Also I like to listen to the songs without the vocals just to hear how great the band soundsQuote
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Taylor1
The important thing is that there are no overdubs on YaYa’s of the instruments except the rhythm guitar on Carol, which was insignificant to the overall performance to begin with. It is a”live” album
Hmm.. so vocals are not that important part of a performance? I've seen this attitude pretty often that over-dubbing or 'fixing' - to use Rocky Dijon's word - vocals 'do not really matter'. But I don't buy it. When I go to see The Stones I am not going to see The Shadows. What Jagger does there - the noise he makes - is a big part of that experience. Now, if I'd like to have an authentic documentation of that show, those should be included, not to be substituted by some studio recording afterwards. To me vocals is an integral part of the band sound, one of the most important and distinguished instruments. To do something about it, is as as much breaking the rules of authenticity of a live performance than any of the other instruments. Nothing wrong with that, but that should apply to other things as well, if we are to be consistent. No double standards.
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Stoneage
The main thing is that they have finally released a new album. That's good enough. Ranking it I would compare it to albums in their latter day production.
In line with that. Still, it's a good thing that they got this one together. The Rolling Stones' core production ended with TY. But that is another story.
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Stoneage
The main thing is that they have finally released a new album. That's good enough. Ranking it I would compare it to albums in their latter day production.
In line with that. Still, it's a good thing that they got this one together. The Rolling Stones' core production ended with TY. But that is another story.
Indeed it is another story and one that ended over 40 years ago - that's more than an average life expectation during ancient times. But the point is one still only wants to live in those ancient times. Or if see that there is life after that. The context matters, like GasLightStreet tends to say (where the hell he is, by the way?). The comparison to latter day albums - after TATTOO YOU, that is - is perfectly fine and there is a lot to compare to. Those albums offer a lot to to enjoy there for a Rolling Stones fan who is not only after highlights. Not any song need to be "Gimme Shelter" or any album EXILE ON MAIN STREET. If it is the top quality that only matters a consistent critical listener should only listen HOT ROCKS. Actually I have friends - call them casual fans - who actually are like that. Why to listen "Angry" or "Love Is Strong" if there is "Paint It Black"? I cannot argue with that logic. Namely, even a uncritical cheerleader fan like me notices that there is a quality difference between those - but still sees the former ones damn good songs and feels the world is a much better place with having those songs than having not.
It's Only Rock'n'Roll. HACKNEY DIAMONDS is a great, unique album and a wonderful latter-day statement in its own terms. We Stones fans are lucky bastards. Aah, it's not EXILE ON MAIN STREET or even TATTOO YOU or SOME GIRLS? No shit, Holmes.
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Doxa
... and I cannot demand my beloved Rolling Stones to offer me goods like they used to. But still they give me something like no one else does...
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liddas
I have a strange relationship with HD.
Every single Stones album I bough in my life remained on heavy rotation for at least one month. I can say how much I really like an album by counting how many times I go back to it after that first month of repeated listens and how many songs make me want to pick up the guitar and try to figure out how to play them.
I might have listened to HD not more than 50 times since its release, and only on apple music. The LP is still sealed, I haven't even cared to buy the CD.
The only song I gave a try on guitar is Sweet Sounds.
Yet I love the album, and more so at every new listen.
Its as if I need to get used to it!
For the record, so far my favs are Dreamy Skies, Live by sword (besides it being a recycled Sweet Neo Con) tell me Straigh and, of course Sweet Sounds-
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Idorh
My wife passed away last Sunday after a 9-hour surgery due to constricted blood vessels. I don't want anyone around me right now, and I am intensely enjoying the album Hackney Diamonds. The album exudes emotion and energy. It soothes my grief.
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Idorh
My wife passed away last Sunday after a 9-hour surgery due to constricted blood vessels. I don't want anyone around me right now, and I am intensely enjoying the album Hackney Diamonds. The album exudes emotion and energy. It soothes my grief.
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Idorh
My wife passed away last Sunday after a 9-hour surgery due to constricted blood vessels. I don't want anyone around me right now, and I am intensely enjoying the album Hackney Diamonds. The album exudes emotion and energy. It soothes my grief.
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Idorh
My wife passed away last Sunday after a 9-hour surgery due to constricted blood vessels. I don't want anyone around me right now, and I am intensely enjoying the album Hackney Diamonds. The album exudes emotion and energy. It soothes my grief.
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Idorh
My wife passed away last Sunday after a 9-hour surgery due to constricted blood vessels. I don't want anyone around me right now, and I am intensely enjoying the album Hackney Diamonds. The album exudes emotion and energy. It soothes my grief.
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Idorh
My wife passed away last Sunday after a 9-hour surgery due to constricted blood vessels. I don't want anyone around me right now, and I am intensely enjoying the album Hackney Diamonds. The album exudes emotion and energy. It soothes my grief.
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kid killowatt
We are all hardcore fans here, we just have different opinions on HD
I think is their most cohesive album since Tattoo You, and coming from 80yr old guys with absolutely nothing to prove, makes it a better record than, let’s say, Undercover or Bridges.
I didn't expect the album to be that good. I was afraid of Andy Watt’s involvement I admit.
But I think the guy did a great job (his bass playing is great, too)
Clearly there was an intention to begin the record with 3 strong songs, and there’s when Watt’s input makes the difference. He helped Mick & Keith with those songs a lot, I mean, who knew the Glimmer Twins were that generous to give an ”outsider” songwriting credits? It’s because the guy deserved it.
Production approach, yes, makes it a modern sounding record. I don’t think that’s a bad thing.
Watt is a modern producer. He’s really young. But he also is a lifelong Stones fan. He respected the essence of the Stones, the ”weaving” between Keith and Ronnie guitars.
”Angry” started as a riff written by Mick and then he played it with Steve Jordan. Keith made his contribution here: his simple but powerful bass line and a trademark minimalistic solo.
”Get Close” is a typical Keith riff in open G tuning in the key of D (lots of familiar riffs were written by Keith on ”D” using his 5 five string open tuning……..Take it So Hard, One More Shot, Can’t you hear me knocking, Mixed Emotions, etc)
”Depending on you” is basically a Mick ballad but with a strong input from Keith and Watt. In fact the song is in Open G tuning. Keith influence on Mick. Like Brown Sugar.
”Bite My Head Off” is, form me, the weakest song in the album. If the Stones go ”punk” it has to be groovy and new-wavish (”Shattered”)…..if not, since this is a modern sounding record, it does not work. Mac Cartney much publicised ”fuzz bass solo” adds nothing the song.
”Whole Wide World” Keith shortened Mick’s riff to a half of the bars and when playing it with Steve he did it with his own style. Chorus is Mick pop by numbers. Ronnie is of fire in this one.
”Dreamy Skies” is vintage Stones country song. I think it should have been shorter. The last singing part of the song is redundant. Keith backing vocals are stunning.
”Mess it up” Jagger wrote it ”for a DJ”. Mick himself said Keith wanted to replace the synth heavy verses and intro with a guitar riff. He did it. Another Keith contribution here.
”Live by the Sword” didn’t like it at first. Maybe too simple. But it has grown on me. Mick’s lyrics are dumb. There’s a nice groove, interesting guitar parts, and Elton John piano is fabulous.
”Driving me to hard” is 100% Keith. I sounds like maybe it was left out of ”Crosseyed Heart”.
Mick does a fine job on this one. He almost never oversings it.
The intro is derivative from ”Tumblin’ Dice” but I love DMTH
”Tell me straight” I know some people here don’t like it. I think is beautiful. Dark. Introspective. The lyrics have a special meaning for me at this moment of my life. I really can’t compare it to ”Slipping Away” or ”Sleep Tonight”. I think TMS is on the same league.
”Sweet Sounds of Heaven” is great. Almost everybody think is very good.
Pretty much nothing to discuss here.
”Rolling Stone Blues” sounds pure and authentic. There are no studio tricks. Two guys, one guitar, an harp & one mic. That’s it.
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Idorh
My wife passed away last Sunday after a 9-hour surgery due to constricted blood vessels. I don't want anyone around me right now, and I am intensely enjoying the album Hackney Diamonds. The album exudes emotion and energy. It soothes my grief.