Tell Me :
Talk
Feel free to provide a link to any "remix" you drab on about. Otherwise, it's just fake news.
It's very simple:
1. Admit that Dolby Atmos is not a remix in regard to being a remix in the culture and context of this thread/subject matter/what a remix is as stated, which has been lost on you and jobt. Both y'all get an F for Music.
2. Until official language via label or band has been shared, Dolby Atmos is just remastering.
3. You have no idea what you're talking about.
You don't know what Dolby Atmos is.
Why do you have such need to make a fool of yourself?
Please someone, stop this guy, stop his madness.
So please educate us. What is Dolby Atmos?
Oh.
Ok.
Aside from your little links that do nothing, care to share?
And... you obviously have zero knowledge of what a remix is.
Someone encourage jobt to stop making a fool of themselves - they have no regard to context.
What's stopping you from finding out yourself?
Again, have you noticed that absolutely nobody seems to share your views!
I suggest you go back and read the first post of this thread. Then you'll perhaps understand why you gonna have to cannossa-walk over to that other thread.
Oh wait, that thread closed!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-07-04 12:57 by DandelionPowderman.
And to make the things even more clear lets turn to Steve Hoffman's explanation
__________
Remember, gang. This is the rule for mixed recordings, as stupid as it reads:
Master tape means UNMASTERED TAPE.
When you master something you use the UNMASTERED MASTER and MASTER IT to something , either DSD, CD, LACQUER, etc.
A master tape isn't mastered until it's mastered! A master tape is essentially WHAT IS APPROVED FOR MASTERING, hence it is marked MASTER. In other words, "Hey, Mr. Mastering engineer, USE THIS and do your mastering stuff to it to make it sound really good".
Therefore, a flat transfer of a master tape almost never sounds good "straight". But, sometimes it does and when it does, it is up to the mastering engineer to let it alone.
If you understand that, you understand all.
_________
The real Dolby Atmos GHS-mix sounds a little tame with a normal stereo system, imo.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-07-04 22:08 by DandelionPowderman.
It works with any headphone - [Music.Apple.com] - (see 'more'). But it also depends on the specific headphone's imaging (soundstage width/depth).
Apple provides for better results with their headphones an ear scan (in iOS 16 or later) for Personalized Spatial Audio - [Support.Apple.com] .
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-07-04 22:35 by Irix.
No. They don’t sound “crappy”. Geez
Rolling Stones & Dolby Atmos were never meant for you.
The expertise has arrived, the madness has been beaten. Thanks!
excuse me The Rolling Stones were meant for me and no one else
Yeah right …..that’s most of them like you said. Give me a break
Based on your post one might think that the engineers involved in the recording of any Stones album - let's say Glyn Johns for example - do not know their job. Or that the Stones were recorded using bad equipment or in bad sounding rooms ...
Of course we all know that this is not true at all. What you consider "crappy sound" is exactly what the band wanted the album to sound like. You might not like it. Fair enough. I do. And I have a hard time to name one rock and roll album that sounds better than any Stones album.
C
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-07-05 13:51 by liddas.
Add Gimme Some Neck
"No Anchovies, Please"
That's correct. All of it.
There's also another master tape - the multi-track master. But those never ever get mastered.
Still more ignorant than a pile of brick dust in regard to what a remix is. Your little friend as well.
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: July 2, 2023 07:29
Quote
jobtQuote
GerardHennessyQuote
jobtQuote
GasLightStreet
Not a remix so much as an extended edit, just some tweaked editing of an otherwise not so edited mix of Emotional Rescue.Quote
ribbelchips
This topic is about remixes by other artists, right? Different takes on songs, by adding and/or removing instruments or complete parts of the songs. adding loops, samples... Sometimes even changing the genre of the tune to a dancetrack. That kind of stuff.
Adding channels to stereo tracks is more remastering in my book...
It's absolutely appalling how noninsightful and ignorant you guys are.
You haven't got a clue about what you're talking about.
I like your direct way of commenting. Go for it!
Feel free to learn and get inspired.
Feel free to provide a link to any "remix" you drab on about. Otherwise, it's just fake news.
It's very simple:
1. Admit that Dolby Atmos is not a remix in regard to being a remix in the culture and context of this thread/subject matter/what a remix is as stated, which has been lost on you and jobt. Both y'all get an F for Music.
2. Until official language via label or band has been shared, Dolby Atmos is just remastering.
3. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
jobt
()
Date: July 2, 2023 20:00
Quote
GasLightStreet
Dolby Atmos is just remastering.
You don't know what Dolby Atmos is.
Why do you have such need to make a fool of yourself?
Please someone, stop this guy, stop his madness.
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
Rocky Dijon
()
Date: July 2, 2023 20:31
This thread is mainly useful for the welcome Return of Skippy in all His Glory. It has been far too long.
As for picking on GasLight, seriously, get a clue. If you truly want to irritate him, ask him to pre-order Tony's STEEL WHEELS Dolby Atmos reissue.
As for picking on GasLight, seriously, get a clue. If you truly want to irritate him, ask him to pre-order Tony's STEEL WHEELS Dolby Atmos reissue.
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
Koen
()
Date: July 2, 2023 22:37
Quote
jobtQuote
GasLightStreet
Dolby Atmos is just remastering.
You don't know what Dolby Atmos is.
So please educate us. What is Dolby Atmos?
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: July 3, 2023 06:26
Quote
jobtQuote
GasLightStreet
Dolby Atmos is just remastering.
You don't know what Dolby Atmos is.
Why do you have such need to make a fool of yourself?
Please someone, stop this guy, stop his madness.
Oh.
Ok.
Aside from your little links that do nothing, care to share?
And... you obviously have zero knowledge of what a remix is.
Someone encourage jobt to stop making a fool of themselves - they have no regard to context.
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
jobt
()
Date: July 4, 2023 01:22
Quote
KoenQuote
jobtQuote
GasLightStreet
Dolby Atmos is just remastering.
You don't know what Dolby Atmos is.
So please educate us. What is Dolby Atmos?
What's stopping you from finding out yourself?
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
jobt
()
Date: July 4, 2023 01:23
Quote
GasLightStreet
And... you obviously have zero knowledge of what a remix is.
Again, have you noticed that absolutely nobody seems to share your views!
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: July 4, 2023 09:55
Quote
jobtQuote
GasLightStreet
And... you obviously have zero knowledge of what a remix is.
Again, have you noticed that absolutely nobody seems to share your views!
I suggest you go back and read the first post of this thread. Then you'll perhaps understand why you gonna have to cannossa-walk over to that other thread.
Oh wait, that thread closed!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-07-04 12:57 by DandelionPowderman.
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
Spud
()
Date: July 4, 2023 11:57
This seems to have developed into a technical argument about what constitutes a remix or a remaster.
In simple and none technical terms a "remix" is a reworking of the original multi track studio masters and a "remaster" is a modification to the original stereo mixdown of those same multi track masters.
After that we're splitting hairs and just annoying each other
In simple and none technical terms a "remix" is a reworking of the original multi track studio masters and a "remaster" is a modification to the original stereo mixdown of those same multi track masters.
After that we're splitting hairs and just annoying each other
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
ironbelly
()
Date: July 4, 2023 13:39
Quote
Spud
This seems to have developed into a technical argument about what constitutes a remix or a remaster.
In simple and none technical terms a "remix" is a reworking of the original multi track studio masters and a "remaster" is a modification to the original stereo mixdown of those same multi track masters.
After that we're splitting hairs and just annoying each other
And to make the things even more clear lets turn to Steve Hoffman's explanation
__________
Remember, gang. This is the rule for mixed recordings, as stupid as it reads:
Master tape means UNMASTERED TAPE.
When you master something you use the UNMASTERED MASTER and MASTER IT to something , either DSD, CD, LACQUER, etc.
A master tape isn't mastered until it's mastered! A master tape is essentially WHAT IS APPROVED FOR MASTERING, hence it is marked MASTER. In other words, "Hey, Mr. Mastering engineer, USE THIS and do your mastering stuff to it to make it sound really good".
Therefore, a flat transfer of a master tape almost never sounds good "straight". But, sometimes it does and when it does, it is up to the mastering engineer to let it alone.
If you understand that, you understand all.
_________
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
Spud
()
Date: July 4, 2023 15:01
Evidentially I'm pretty sure that what they actually say these days is
"Hey, Mr. Mastering engineer, here's this wonderful recording...see what you can do to really bugger it up ! ".
"Hey, Mr. Mastering engineer, here's this wonderful recording...see what you can do to really bugger it up ! ".
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
TaurocTony
()
Date: July 4, 2023 15:51
Dolby Atmos is a mixing technology. Postulating otherwise is absurd.
ReelStone Trading Group is getting ready later this summer to release the upcoming new Dolby Atmos remixes of the tracks found on Forty Licks.
Previous Dolby Atmos remixes released on RSTG:
- Tattoo You [iorr.org]
- Honk [iorr.org]
ReelStone Trading Group is getting ready later this summer to release the upcoming new Dolby Atmos remixes of the tracks found on Forty Licks.
Previous Dolby Atmos remixes released on RSTG:
- Tattoo You [iorr.org]
- Honk [iorr.org]
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
Nikkei
()
Date: July 4, 2023 16:10
I was sorta interested in what Dolby Atmos is but that guys attitude ruined it for me
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
Bashlets
()
Date: July 4, 2023 20:05
Listened to part of Tattoo on headphones. I’ll stick to the original.
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
Koen
()
Date: July 4, 2023 21:48
Not sure if Dolby Atmos works with any type of headphones. Maybe it sounds off if they are not compatible?
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: July 4, 2023 22:07
Quote
Koen
Not sure if Dolby Atmos works with any type of headphones. Maybe it sounds off if they are not compatible?
The real Dolby Atmos GHS-mix sounds a little tame with a normal stereo system, imo.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-07-04 22:08 by DandelionPowderman.
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
Irix
()
Date: July 4, 2023 22:25
Quote
Koen
Not sure if Dolby Atmos works with any type of headphones. Maybe it sounds off if they are not compatible?
It works with any headphone - [Music.Apple.com] - (see 'more'). But it also depends on the specific headphone's imaging (soundstage width/depth).
Apple provides for better results with their headphones an ear scan (in iOS 16 or later) for Personalized Spatial Audio - [Support.Apple.com] .
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-07-04 22:35 by Irix.
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
Taylor1
()
Date: July 4, 2023 22:30
The sound quality of most Stones albums is usually crappy
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
More Hot Rocks
()
Date: July 4, 2023 22:33
Quote
Taylor1
The sound quality of most Stones albums is usually crappy
No. They don’t sound “crappy”. Geez
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
jobt
()
Date: July 4, 2023 23:38
Quote
Nikkei
I was sorta interested in what Dolby Atmos is but that guys attitude ruined it for me
Rolling Stones & Dolby Atmos were never meant for you.
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
jobt
()
Date: July 4, 2023 23:38
Quote
TaurocTony
Dolby Atmos is a mixing technology. Postulating otherwise is absurd.
ReelStone Trading Group is getting ready later this summer to release the upcoming new Dolby Atmos remixes of the tracks found on Forty Licks.
Previous Dolby Atmos remixes released on RSTG:
- Tattoo You [iorr.org]
- Honk [iorr.org]
The expertise has arrived, the madness has been beaten. Thanks!
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
Nikkei
()
Date: July 5, 2023 00:20
Quote
jobtQuote
Nikkei
I was sorta interested in what Dolby Atmos is but that guys attitude ruined it for me
Rolling Stones & Dolby Atmos were never meant for you.
excuse me The Rolling Stones were meant for me and no one else
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
Taylor1
()
Date: July 5, 2023 01:51
Iorr? Steel Wheels? satanic Majesties? Ladies and Gentlemen? and others.Quote
More Hot RocksQuote
Taylor1
The sound quality of most Stones albums is usually crappy
No. They don’t sound “crappy”. Geez
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
More Hot Rocks
()
Date: July 5, 2023 02:11
Quote
Taylor1Iorr? Steel Wheels? satanic Majesties? Ladies and Gentlemen? and others.Quote
More Hot RocksQuote
Taylor1
The sound quality of most Stones albums is usually crappy
No. They don’t sound “crappy”. Geez
Yeah right …..that’s most of them like you said. Give me a break
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
Taylor1
()
Date: July 5, 2023 03:42
Don’t get so emotional someone disagrees with you. Get a hobbyQuote
More Hot RocksQuote
Taylor1Iorr? Steel Wheels? satanic Majesties? Ladies and Gentlemen? and others.Quote
More Hot RocksQuote
Taylor1
The sound quality of most Stones albums is usually crappy
No. They don’t sound “crappy”. Geez
Yeah right …..that’s most of them like you said. Give me a break
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
liddas
()
Date: July 5, 2023 13:50
Quote
Taylor1
The sound quality of most Stones albums is usually crappy
Based on your post one might think that the engineers involved in the recording of any Stones album - let's say Glyn Johns for example - do not know their job. Or that the Stones were recorded using bad equipment or in bad sounding rooms ...
Of course we all know that this is not true at all. What you consider "crappy sound" is exactly what the band wanted the album to sound like. You might not like it. Fair enough. I do. And I have a hard time to name one rock and roll album that sounds better than any Stones album.
C
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2023-07-05 13:51 by liddas.
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
Taylor1
()
Date: July 5, 2023 19:15
Quote
liddasQuote
Taylor1
The sound quality of most Stones albums is usually crappy
Based on your post one might think that the engineers involved in the recording of any Stones album - let's say Glyn Johns for example - do not know their job. Or that the Stones were recorded using bad equipment or in bad sounding rooms ...
Of course we all know that this is not true at all. What you consider "crappy sound" is exactly what the band wanted the album to sound like. You might not like it. Fair enough. I do. And I have a hard time to name one rock and roll album that sounds better than any Stones album.
GHS has crappy sound.Keith plays great guitar on for example Silver Train, yet it’s buried in the mix.IORR is crap.Even Andy Johns said that. L&G is crap.Mick said Exile mix was crap. Voodoo Lounge has a dull sound.These are great albums but not great sound IMO
C
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
Elmo Lewis
()
Date: July 5, 2023 21:56
Quote
Taylor1They should remix IORR album to make it sound like Black n Blue.And remix Ladies and Gentlemen.Quote
ribbelchips
It's a shame that there isn't a remix version of Emotional Rescue. The perfect Stones song to remix imho.
Add Gimme Some Neck
"No Anchovies, Please"
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: July 6, 2023 17:14
Quote
ironbellyQuote
Spud
This seems to have developed into a technical argument about what constitutes a remix or a remaster.
In simple and none technical terms a "remix" is a reworking of the original multi track studio masters and a "remaster" is a modification to the original stereo mixdown of those same multi track masters.
After that we're splitting hairs and just annoying each other
And to make the things even more clear lets turn to Steve Hoffman's explanation
__________
Remember, gang. This is the rule for mixed recordings, as stupid as it reads:
Master tape means UNMASTERED TAPE.
When you master something you use the UNMASTERED MASTER and MASTER IT to something , either DSD, CD, LACQUER, etc.
A master tape isn't mastered until it's mastered! A master tape is essentially WHAT IS APPROVED FOR MASTERING, hence it is marked MASTER. In other words, "Hey, Mr. Mastering engineer, USE THIS and do your mastering stuff to it to make it sound really good".
Therefore, a flat transfer of a master tape almost never sounds good "straight". But, sometimes it does and when it does, it is up to the mastering engineer to let it alone.
If you understand that, you understand all.
_________
That's correct. All of it.
There's also another master tape - the multi-track master. But those never ever get mastered.
Re: Stones Remixes
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: July 6, 2023 17:19
Quote
jobtQuote
TaurocTony
Dolby Atmos is a mixing technology. Postulating otherwise is absurd.
ReelStone Trading Group is getting ready later this summer to release the upcoming new Dolby Atmos remixes of the tracks found on Forty Licks.
Previous Dolby Atmos remixes released on RSTG:
- Tattoo You [iorr.org]
- Honk [iorr.org]
The expertise has arrived, the madness has been beaten. Thanks!
Still more ignorant than a pile of brick dust in regard to what a remix is. Your little friend as well.
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