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Doxa
Funnily, they never sounded so close to the Beatles as they do with "Come On". That probably was the strategy to make a commercial single: pick up a catchy, but not that well-known Berry number, and take the sound and arrangement idea from the latest Beatles single, "From Me To You". (Funnily, in their next single they did it other way round: play a poppish Beatle tune with their own raw, dirty, Chicago-based style.)
"Come On" did its function. But it sounds like they are holding their horses, trying to act nice, be good boys. There is the sense of threat there, like a repressed rage there...
A wonderful first single, that is. It has a sort of timeless charm.
- Doxa
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Doxa
Funnily, they never sounded so close to the Beatles as they do with "Come On". That probably was the strategy to make a commercial single: pick up a catchy, but not that well-known Berry number, and take the sound and arrangement idea from the latest Beatles single, "From Me To You". (Funnily, in their next single they did it other way round: play a poppish Beatle tune with their own raw, dirty, Chicago-based style.)
"Come On" did its function. But it sounds like they are holding their horses, trying to act nice, be good boys. There is the sense of threat there, like a repressed rage there...
A wonderful first single, that is. It has a sort of timeless charm.
- Doxa
Let's remember that the Stones' rendition of I Wanna Be Your Man pre-dates the Beatles' version. It was recorded before, wasn't it? Lennon and McCartney certainly finished composing the track specifically for Mick and Keith. What I'm getting at - though be it, clumsily - is that the Stones' raw and dirty take on I Wanna Be Your Man, is, sort-of, the original. In a way, anyway!
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Big Al
Good points as usual, Doxa. Thank you. Yes, now that you mention it, I suppose we don't really know the origin of this claim. It's certainly a great little tale, if anything. I suspect that - like you say - Lennon and McCartney presented this near-finished song to Mick and Keith - in a poppy format - before the Stones decided to add a little more of their own flavour. What is a fact, though, is that the Stones' version has an earlier release date! Regarding the final, released Beatles version: I wonder if the decision to - and I hate to say it - relegate it to a Ringo-piece is partly due to the Stones' - almost - ownership and association with the track. It reached #12 with the Stones' rearrangement, after all. I do like the Beatles' effort though. It probably gained some further popularity after it featured in A Hard Day's Night.
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Silver Dagger
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Silver Dagger
Not one of the greatest debut singles but then neither is Love Me Do.
As far as greatest debut singles ever go I'd say the following are up there: The Who - I Can't Explain, Roxy Music - Virginia Plain, The Sex Pistols - Anarchy In The UK, The Byrds - Mr Tambourine Man; The Damned - New Rose; The Electric Prunes - I Had Too Much To Dream Last Night; The 13th Floor Elevators - You're Gonna Miss Me.
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Doxa
Well, The Beatles had been working on it earlier in a couple of sessions (according to Wiki, already in September 11-12, 30, and then in October 3&23. The Stones cut theirs in October 7). As some sources state Paul and John finished the song in the front of amazed Stones watching in Richmond, but I wonder what actually is the origin of that claim, or how finished the song or much they changed the song then (if at all).
- Doxa
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Doxa
Well, The Beatles had been working on it earlier in a couple of sessions (according to Wiki, already in September 11-12, 30, and then in October 3&23. The Stones cut theirs in October 7). As some sources state Paul and John finished the song in the front of amazed Stones watching in Richmond, but I wonder what actually is the origin of that claim, or how finished the song or much they changed the song then (if at all).
- Doxa
Not "Richmond" but Denmark St in central London.
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Doxa
Well, The Beatles had been working on it earlier in a couple of sessions (according to Wiki, already in September 11-12, 30, and then in October 3&23. The Stones cut theirs in October 7). As some sources state Paul and John finished the song in the front of amazed Stones watching in Richmond, but I wonder what actually is the origin of that claim, or how finished the song or much they changed the song then (if at all).
- Doxa
Not "Richmond" but Denmark St in central London.
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Silver Dagger
Not one of the greatest debut singles but then neither is Love Me Do.
As far as greatest debut singles ever go I'd say the following are up there: The Who - I Can't Explain, Roxy Music - Virginia Plain, The Sex Pistols - Anarchy In The UK, The Byrds - Mr Tambourine Man; The Damned - New Rose; The Electric Prunes - I Had Too Much To Dream Last Night; The 13th Floor Elevators - You're Gonna Miss Me.
Any other suggestions?