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DandelionPowderman
Brown Sugar is on the first beat.

No
"Gold..." starts on the second half of the 4

See the musicsheet.
[www.totalsheetmusic.com]

I'm hearing Charlie's first hit of the four on «Gold».

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DandelionPowderman

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The Joker

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DandelionPowderman
Brown Sugar is on the first beat.

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"Gold..." starts on the second half of the 4

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See the musicsheet.
[www.totalsheetmusic.com]

I'm hearing Charlie's first hit of the four on «Gold».

I hear different, at least on the studio version, and it was before I had a look at the musicsheet

I hear "Goo.." starting slighly before the 1, then "..old" continues on the 1. It's very light, like a 16th ahead of the beat 1

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I found someday an article about Michael Jackson’s trademark singing.

It said Jackson was much inspired by James Brown’s pattern: starting the verse right on the first beat à la Sex Machine (Get up ! etc.). Listen for instance to Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground) and Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough of which verse start also right on the beat 1.
Author explained that way, the piece sounds more dancing.
By contrast, other soul artists start the verses after the beat 1, and quite often in an un-even way between two beats, which gives a laid-back feel.

So I did try a sort of quizz for the Stones’ songs
It seems the verses starting the beat 1 are quite rare , and belong to the first area of their songwriting.
Here what I found (Surely, there are some others)
¬ Get Off My Cloud (on 1st)
- Have you had another, baby, standing in the shadow? (on 1st)
- Sympathy For The Devil (on 1st)

I could’nt find the original article, but here is another on that topic:
Do not start on the Downbeat
« Many super catchy melodies do not even start on an even (sorry did it again) downbeat in the first place. »
[www.productionmusiclive.com]

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The Joker
I found someday an article about Michael Jackson’s trademark singing.

It said Jackson was much inspired by James Brown’s pattern: starting the verse right on the first beat à la Sex Machine (Get up ! etc.). Listen for instance to Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground) and Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough of which verse start also right on the beat 1.
Author explained that way, the piece sounds more dancing.
By contrast, other soul artists start the verses after the beat 1, and quite often in an un-even way between two beats, which gives a laid-back feel.

So I did try a sort of quizz for the Stones’ songs
It seems the verses starting the beat 1 are quite rare , and belong to the first area of their songwriting.
Here what I found (Surely, there are some others)
¬ Get Off My Cloud (on 1st)
- Have you had another, baby, standing in the shadow? (on 1st)
- Sympathy For The Devil (on 1st)

I could’nt find the original article, but here is another on that topic:
Do not start on the Downbeat
« Many super catchy melodies do not even start on an even (sorry did it again) downbeat in the first place. »
[www.productionmusiclive.com]

In Funk there's usually a heavy emphasis on the first beat, but I don't think that necessarily means the singer should also start singing right on the one. And anyway, I don't hear it in the first two examples you gave (Sex Machine and Shake Your Body).
Sometimes, within the same song, one verse starts on the downbeat and the other on the upbeat. Depending on the lyrics and phrasing.
A verse starting on the one isn't that rare in Stones songs (and I wouldn't say it makes them more danceable than others):

Rip This Joint
Torn & Frayed
All Down The Line
Some Girls
Lies
Before They Make Me Run
Shattered
Dancing With Mr. D
Silver Train
Can You Hear The Music
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So I did try a sort of quizz for the Stones’ songs
It seems the verses starting the beat 1 are quite rare , and belong to the first area of their songwriting.
Here what I found (Surely, there are some others)
¬ Get Off My Cloud (on 1st)
- Have you had another, baby, standing in the shadow? (on 1st)
- Sympathy For The Devil (on 1st)

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More Hot Rocks

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If You Can't Rock Me


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Nope. Start on the upbeat of the 1, aka beween the beat 1 and 2

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[www.sheetmusicdirect.com]

You're right. I'm starting to think that people can't count.

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So I did try a sort of quizz for the Stones’ songs
It seems the verses starting the beat 1 are quite rare , and belong to the first area of their songwriting.
Here what I found (Surely, there are some others)
¬ Get Off My Cloud (on 1st)
- Have you had another, baby, standing in the shadow? (on 1st)
- Sympathy For The Devil (on 1st)

Have You Seen Your Mother Baby starts on the 1st upbeat.

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rollmops
Do you mean that the first thing we ear when the song starts is the lead vocals with or without the music? "Neighbours" then.
Rockandroll,
Mops

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schillid
Why no ruling from the judges yet ...

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