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Pretty cool that she's continuing to change up her set. I feel like it was a given with this new album, but just kinda shows that she's not resting on anything. Cool for European fans.

It's the biggest show on earth now by far, 3:30 of show, 46 songs, 7 from her new album just released, she's on other league.

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Pretty cool that she's continuing to change up her set. I feel like it was a given with this new album, but just kinda shows that she's not resting on anything. Cool for European fans.

It's the biggest show on earth now by far, 3:30 of show, 46 songs, 7 from her new album just released, she's on other league.

I have several family members that are fans and while not on my playlist, it's great to see artists delivering for the fans in the way she does. She sets the bar really high, maybe forcing other artists to up their game.

To be clear, I don't count the Stones (of course) as needing to play that game and from what of scene of the first shows, fantastic show.

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Pretty cool that she's continuing to change up her set. I feel like it was a given with this new album, but just kinda shows that she's not resting on anything. Cool for European fans.

It's the biggest show on earth now by far, 3:30 of show, 46 songs, 7 from her new album just released, she's on other league.

I have several family members that are fans and while not on my playlist, it's great to see artists delivering for the fans in the way she does. She sets the bar really high, maybe forcing other artists to up their game.

To be clear, I don't count the Stones (of course) as needing to play that game and from what of scene of the first shows, fantastic show.

Colleague's daughter flew from Vancouver to Paris this week to catch one of her shows. It was cheaper than flying to Toronto to see her! Tickets were purchased before the 3 Vancouver shows were announced.

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Pretty cool that she's continuing to change up her set. I feel like it was a given with this new album, but just kinda shows that she's not resting on anything. Cool for European fans.

It's the biggest show on earth now by far, 3:30 of show, 46 songs, 7 from her new album just released, she's on other league.

I have several family members that are fans and while not on my playlist, it's great to see artists delivering for the fans in the way she does. She sets the bar really high, maybe forcing other artists to up their game.

To be clear, I don't count the Stones (of course) as needing to play that game and from what of scene of the first shows, fantastic show.

Colleague's daughter flew from Vancouver to Paris this week to catch one of her shows. It was cheaper than flying to Toronto to see her! Tickets were purchased before the 3 Vancouver shows were announced.

I have friends who are seeing her in Paris in a few weeks. They said it was way easier than trying for anything here. And hey, gives them a reason to travel, so win-win.

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Pretty cool that she's continuing to change up her set. I feel like it was a given with this new album, but just kinda shows that she's not resting on anything. Cool for European fans.

It's the biggest show on earth now by far, 3:30 of show, 46 songs, 7 from her new album just released, she's on other league.

I have several family members that are fans and while not on my playlist, it's great to see artists delivering for the fans in the way she does. She sets the bar really high, maybe forcing other artists to up their game.

To be clear, I don't count the Stones (of course) as needing to play that game and from what of scene of the first shows, fantastic show.

Colleague's daughter flew from Vancouver to Paris this week to catch one of her shows. It was cheaper than flying to Toronto to see her! Tickets were purchased before the 3 Vancouver shows were announced.

That's cool! My family lucked out and got tickets in Vancouver.

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Maybe this will be her "White Album", her "Exile". Those albums weren't really understood at the time too.

Albums like this have many songs to jack up the streaming numbers. Same thing with Beyonces Cowboy Carter or those albums by Morgan Wallen. They’re not misunderstood double albums, they’re playlists… pick the songs you want, don’t worry about the others, put them in a bowl and shuffle. Albums are old fashioned and pretty soon a thing of the past. Streaming ruined it, but here we are.

People have been saying the album is dead or will die for quite some time now. Yet people continue to record albums (regardless of format).

“Taylor Swift Eras Tour Raises COVID Fears”

[www.newsweek.com]


“Taylor Swift spreads Covid: thousand of fans fall ill after Madrid and Paris concerts”

[www.elnacional.cat]#

This is no different from another band we all like and follow. I know folks who caught it in Vegas. At this point it is a personal decision whether to go or not. Government regulations have passed regardless of which side you are on. If someone is concerned, we all know what should be done to minimize personal risk. The risk from attending a Taylor Swift show, a Rolling Sones show, a Kid Rock show or a tractor pull is essentially the same.

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If someone is concerned, we all know what should be done to minimize personal risk.

Some people continue with wearing masks when they attend a concert, a sports event etc.

[www.reddit.com]

While I give a nod to daspy’s general observations on the current Covid situation in regard to attending a mass event like concerts and festivals, I’d like to take this opportunity to offer my views here on the IORR forum.

Covid is downplayed these days. The information about Covid is not reported sufficiently by the media just now, but that does not mean it does not exist any more. I hear of another surge. And professionals have warned about new variants from time to time (BA.2.86, JN.1, FLiRT, KP.2, KP.3 and so on). With safety measures and regulations being lifted, people have started to take it less serious, gone too lax and behave nonchalantly. See the footage of a young girl and her comment imbedded in the El Nacional article I linked to above — "I've had Covid since the Eras tour and acting like it was nothing, thinking it was congestion.” Obviously she mixes with other people, knowing she is carrying the virus. And the recent interview of Lady Gaga casually admitting that she carried on performing at several concerts continuously despite that she tested positive (her show had her stepping down to the floor and wading through the crowd), causing dismayed to enraged reactions among the fans.

Covid is not just another cold.

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While I give a nod to daspy’s general observations on the current Covid situation in regard to attending a mass event like concerts and festivals, I’d like to take this opportunity to offer my views here on the IORR forum.

Covid is downplayed these days. The information about Covid is not reported sufficiently by the media just now, but that does not mean it does not exist any more. I hear of another surge. And professionals have warned about new variants from time to time (BA.2.86, JN.1, FLiRT, KP.2, KP.3 and so on). With safety measures and regulations being lifted, people have started to take it less serious, gone too lax and behave nonchalantly. See the footage of a young girl and her comment imbedded in the El Nacional article I linked to above — "I've had Covid since the Eras tour and acting like it was nothing, thinking it was congestion.” Obviously she mixes with other people, knowing she is carrying the virus. And the recent interview of Lady Gaga casually admitting that she carried on performing at several concerts continuously despite that she tested positive (her show had her stepping down to the floor and wading through the crowd), causing dismayed to enraged reactions among the fans.

Covid is not just another cold.

I’d like to take this opportunity to offer my views here on the IORR forum.


This Forum is here to discuss Rolling Stones issues. If you want to discuss covid then I suggest you contact Fauchi he will give you all the answers and BS
you need to know.

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This Forum is here to discuss Rolling Stones issues.

And this thread is to discuss Taylor Swift issues.

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This Forum is here to discuss Rolling Stones issues.

And this thread is to discuss Taylor Swift issues.

I read your posts.You don't discuss Taylor Swift's musical attributes only your take on so called Covid issues.
You really should not believe all you read in the controlled media or beneficiaries unless you are one of them.

to quote :-
i]I hear of another surge.[/i] From whom?
And professionals have warned about new variants from time to time What Professionals ?

Whilst I do not want anyone to suffer medical complications from what ever ailments
they may have.
If you want to discuss so called viruses. Taylor Swift has just finished a three night stint in Edinburgh my home city to over 220,000 people. I will await to see how many 'Thousands come down with Flu like issues.

Hey Stones fans who have attended the 2024 concerts, how many people have you
heard that have came down with Flu type issues ?

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You really should not believe all you read in the controlled media or beneficiaries unless you are one of them.

How do you know the media sources I quoted are “controlled” or they are “beneficiaries”? And if they are, who controls them and what advantage they derive?

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to quote :-
i]I hear of another surge.[/i] From whom?
And professionals have warned about new variants from time to time What Professionals ?

Admittedly I’m no expert on all things Covid, but a few quick searches on the internet would give you enough clues to your questions as well as a conviction that it is too early to behave like Covid is over. The following URLs (all recent information sources) are just a few samples.

[ukhsa.blog.gov.uk]

[publichealth.jhu.edu]

[www.cbc.ca]

[www.yalemedicine.org]

[www.idsociety.org]

[www.cdc.gov]

[www.ons.gov.uk]

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This Forum is here to discuss Rolling Stones issues.

So what made you decide to open this thread? Maybe you are a secret TayTay fan?

"Taylor Swift buys back the rights to the master recordings of her first six albums" - [TheGuardian.com] , [Variety.com] , [RollingStone.com] .

She owns the whole industry, the #1 by a very long shot, she devalued the cost of the original masters and paid less for them now than she would have in 2019, and there is no doubt that the re-recordings were a big boom to her crazy popularity the last few years, a 100% win in every aspect.

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She owns the whole industry, the #1 by a very long shot, she devalued the cost of the original masters and paid less for them now than she would have in 2019, and there is no doubt that the re-recordings were a big boom to her crazy popularity the last few years, a 100% win in every aspect.

Whether you like her music or not, you cannot help but admire the business savvy. It's unquestionable.

there was a conversation about celebrity guests on the new album on the thread about that recently

which got me thinking

her sway over massive amounts of young people cannot be denied and she seems to be a fan of the band as well

getting her to do a duet with mick would go a long way to getting young people to take them and that album seriously if only for a brief intense moment but it might be enough to bring in a large contingent of new fans

i'm personally not a fan and would rather they choose someone else but i also wonder if it wouldn't be in the long run a good thing

the sudden influx of new fans could mean more demand for archive releases more demand for live performances (within reason given there ages) and most importantly a new generation of fans to carry on there legacy after there gone

I have never knowingly listened to Taylor Swift. The last ‘current’ artist I followed was Beyoncé, though even that ship sailed a decade ago. I’d rather Mick duet with Beyoncé, purely based on the fact she used to be smoking hot.

And ‘Crazy In Love’ was the single of the decade!

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the sudden influx of new fans could mean more demand for archive releases more demand for live performances (within reason given there ages) and most importantly a new generation of fans to carry on there legacy after there gone

If Taylor Swift's fans are 12-year-old girls (born 2014), then Bill Wyman (born 1936) would be their great-grandad. Listening to 60-year-old music is probably like watching black & white films from the 1930s for them.

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the sudden influx of new fans could mean more demand for archive releases more demand for live performances (within reason given there ages) and most importantly a new generation of fans to carry on there legacy after there gone

If Taylor Swift's fans are 12-year-old girls (born 2014), then Bill Wyman (born 1936) would be their great-grandad. Listening to 60-year-old music is probably like watching black & white films from the 1930s for them.

Yeah, even Taylor Swift is not capable of that.

To be honest, I don’t want the Stones to do an Elton, and sell their soul for streams.

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the sudden influx of new fans could mean more demand for archive releases more demand for live performances (within reason given there ages) and most importantly a new generation of fans to carry on there legacy after there gone

If Taylor Swift's fans are 12-year-old girls (born 2014), then Bill Wyman (born 1936) would be their great-grandad. Listening to 60-year-old music is probably like watching black & white films from the 1930s for them.

And if you happen to be watching clips of the Stones from the 60s, they would in fact be mostly black and white!

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And if you happen to be watching clips of the Stones from the 60s, they would in fact be mostly black and white!

But that's not what I meant. For younger people, decades-old films/music might feel old.

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the sudden influx of new fans could mean more demand for archive releases more demand for live performances (within reason given there ages) and most importantly a new generation of fans to carry on there legacy after there gone

If Taylor Swift's fans are 12-year-old girls (born 2014), then Bill Wyman (born 1936) would be their great-grandad. Listening to 60-year-old music is probably like watching black & white films from the 1930s for them.

well it's definitely more then just 12 year old girls who like her

and i don't think kids today have as much of a negative view of older music then ones from other generations did

i have a large collection of old game consoles that i take to my local libray for the kids to play on teen night twice a month

so i sit there for 5 hours with about 30 teens and sometimes they bring in one of those blutooth speakers and play music from there phones taking turns picking out songs

so a lot of it is what you'd excpet them to play (yes taylor swift included) but i was really struck by just how much older music they chose to play and the varity

just from memory i've heard and recognized music from the animals, bing crosby, the andrew sister, mavis staple, willie nelson, elvis, louis armstrong, frank sinatra, dean martin, bob marley, the who, ted nugent, james brown, billy holiday, def lepard, kiss, ac/dc, rick astly, cher, elton john, queen, parliment funkadelic, the zombies, cream, cyndi lauper, peaches and cream, the temptations, marvin gaye, zz top, nirvana, and freakin' jimmy durante

oh and the stones too

maybe my impression overall is wrong but they do seem as a group to be more open to older music then i would have ever thought

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maybe my impression overall is wrong but they do seem as a group to be more open to older music then i would have ever thought

That's interesting. Play them the album ‘The Rolling Stones’ (UK, 1964) and then let them decide whether they would spend their $25 on this album or rather on the next album by Taylor Swift (respectively a present-day musician).

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maybe my impression overall is wrong but they do seem as a group to be more open to older music then i would have ever thought

That's interesting. Play them the album ‘The Rolling Stones’ (UK, 1964) and then let them decide whether they would spend their $25 on this album or rather on the next album by Taylor Swift (respectively a present-day musician).

Take it one step further... What are the Stones music rights in regards to ABKCO?
If they re-record ‘The Rolling Stones’ (UK, 1964) today (Mick and Keith's Version), do they have to pay ABKCO anything?

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maybe my impression overall is wrong but they do seem as a group to be more open to older music then i would have ever thought

That's interesting. Play them the album ‘The Rolling Stones’ (UK, 1964) and then let them decide whether they would spend their $25 on this album or rather on the next album by Taylor Swift (respectively a present-day musician).

The Stones' music from the 60's (and many albums from the 70's too) sounds so raw and "old" for today's ears, the current music is more softer, driven by mostly women acts, too much different from the Stones model.

That's why from all the older acts, Fleetwood Mac and Elton John are on top in 2025 in the streaming era, they sound more natural on today's ears than even the Beatles and, from some strange reason, Creedence is 3-4 times more popular than the Stones in the streaming era, they are the most popular Rock And Roll act by a long shot, the newer streaming generation loves them, their Greatest Hits spent over half a year on the Top 50 of Billboard only during the last year while the Stones have been absent from the Billboard 200 since July 2024, almost a whole year now, a big drop in streaming which mean a big drop in popularity with the young crowd.

And we're not even talking about some of the Stones lyrics, even Mick is ashamed to sing some of the older Stones hits now.

Times have changed.

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there was a conversation about celebrity guests on the new album on the thread about that recently

which got me thinking

her sway over massive amounts of young people cannot be denied and she seems to be a fan of the band as well

getting her to do a duet with mick would go a long way to getting young people to take them and that album seriously if only for a brief intense moment but it might be enough to bring in a large contingent of new fans

i'm personally not a fan and would rather they choose someone else but i also wonder if it wouldn't be in the long run a good thing

the sudden influx of new fans could mean more demand for archive releases more demand for live performances (within reason given there ages) and most importantly a new generation of fans to carry on there legacy after there gone

Mick has done a duet with her two times once he came on in 2015 at her concert singing satisfaction and then she dueted with the stones another time as a guest