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"If Things Could Be Different" (Mick Jagger 2001 song)
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: April 4, 2022 17:57

I was just listening to this track, and I was wondering if anyone happened to know about whom Mick might be singing??



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022-04-06 17:29 by bv.

Re: If Things Could Be Different
Posted by: NilsHolgersson ()
Date: April 4, 2022 18:23

One of his 3000 girlfriends I guess

Re: If Things Could Be Different
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: April 4, 2022 18:27

a younger American I presume, but I wonder if it's Lucas' mom by chance.....

Re: If Things Could Be Different
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: April 6, 2022 07:19

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VoodooLounge13
I was just listening to this track, and I was wondering if anyone happened to know about whom Mick might be singing??

He seems to be singing about himself, his life with and about Jerry.

"I was born way to soon."

If it isn't about Jerry it's about who?

"I saw it all. I saw it from afar. I saw it in the stars."

Re: If Things Could Be Different
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: April 6, 2022 09:47

No idea.

But thanks for bringing it up, since never heard the track before.thumbs up

From first listening sounds like Lennon's Xmas song meets Dylan's "Series of Dreams" meets "Blinded By Love", haha.. A nice little song, although I am not the biggest fan of Jagger's GODDESS era singing and the melody sounds a bit crafted. Bonus track? Some single B-side, Japanese extra or what?

- Doxa



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Re: If Things Could Be Different
Posted by: alreadyoverme ()
Date: April 6, 2022 16:18

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GasLightStreet
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VoodooLounge13
I was just listening to this track, and I was wondering if anyone happened to know about whom Mick might be singing??

He seems to be singing about himself, his life with and about Jerry.

"I was born way to soon."

If it isn't about Jerry it's about who?

"I saw it all. I saw it from afar. I saw it in the stars."

I always thought it was about her too...

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Doxa
No idea.

But thanks for bringing it up, since never heard the track before.thumbs up

From first listening sounds like Lennon's Xmas song meets Dylan's "Series of Dreams" meets "Blinded By Love", haha.. A nice little song, although I am not the biggest fan of Jagger's GODDESS era singing and the melody sounds a bit crafted. Bonus track? Some single B-side, Japanese extra or what?

- Doxa

Aye, it was Japanese bonus track but it was also bside of Visions of Paradise single.

Re: If Things Could Be Different
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: April 6, 2022 16:59

I don't see the Jerry connection, as they aren't that far off, age-wise. If he was born too soon, that means he's older than the muse.....

Re: If Things Could Be Different
Date: April 6, 2022 17:11

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VoodooLounge13
I don't see the Jerry connection, as they aren't that far off, age-wise. If he was born too soon, that means he's older than the muse.....

She's 13 years his junior...

Re: "If Things Could Be Different" (Mick Jagger 2001 song)
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: April 6, 2022 18:51

Yes, but why would he regret that. I think it's someone with whom there is a much larger age gap. Besides him and Jerry were together for a long, long time. Perhaps the muse couldn't handle the gap?

Re: "If Things Could Be Different" (Mick Jagger 2001 song)
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: April 6, 2022 19:14

Angelina Jolie?

- Doxa

Re: "If Things Could Be Different" (Mick Jagger 2001 song)
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: April 7, 2022 01:34

Not bad at all, but not all too great either. The other B-side from Goddess-period, "Blue", in particular the hymn-like ending, is much more remarkable and a lost gem imo:

Blue

Re: "If Things Could Be Different" (Mick Jagger 2001 song)
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: April 7, 2022 01:40

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VoodooLounge13
I was just listening to this track, and I was wondering if anyone happened to know about whom Mick might be singing??

probably no one. Like many songwriters, he uses a sizeable amount of artistic license.

Re: "If Things Could Be Different" (Mick Jagger 2001 song)
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: April 7, 2022 03:32

Clearly no one recalls the gutter press in the era. All of the songs are for Sophie Dahl.

No, I don't really believe that. I don't think Mick wears his heart on his sleeve, generally speaking.

Re: "If Things Could Be Different" (Mick Jagger 2001 song)
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: April 7, 2022 06:57

No I don’t so. Dahl is British. He’s talking about someone across the pond and mentions July 4th.

If things had been different
If only you'd give one more twist of the key
If things would be different

A change in the numbers
If only that message could just be retrieved
If things would be different

If life could be permanent
You'd be a goddess carved on a frieze
If things could be different
You would be sharing your whole life with me

I saw it all, I saw it from afar
I saw it all, I saw it in the stars
I saw it all, I saw it much too late
Coincidence and fate

If things had been different
If only your finger had not pushed delete
I would not be walking down
Down this lonely street

'Cause if things had been different
If only my whole life could be just re-dreamed

'Cause I was born way too soon
Born on the other side of the seas
And if things had been different
We'd spend the fourth of July on the beach

And if things had been different
All of your children would look just like me

I saw it all, I saw it from afar
I saw it all, I saw it from the stars
I saw it all, I saw it much too late
I saw it all, the fingerprints of fate

Re: "If Things Could Be Different" (Mick Jagger 2001 song)
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: April 7, 2022 07:09

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VoodooLounge13
Yes, but why would he regret that. I think it's someone with whom there is a much larger age gap. Besides him and Jerry were together for a long, long time. Perhaps the muse couldn't handle the gap?

It's not necessarily age that is regret. It's life.

Life with Jerry had recently blown up big time. It fits. Is it what it is about? He's never said to my knowledge but it seems a bit obvious.

Re: "If Things Could Be Different" (Mick Jagger 2001 song)
Posted by: Bashlets ()
Date: April 7, 2022 12:49

I always thought it was about Jerry just as Brand New Set of Rules

Re: "If Things Could Be Different" (Mick Jagger 2001 song)
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: April 7, 2022 16:01

Hmmm I just don't know. To lament about all the kids looking like him.......they had kids together. It's a beautiful song regardless of its subject.

Re: "If Things Could Be Different" (Mick Jagger 2001 song)
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: April 7, 2022 19:06

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Rocky Dijon
Clearly no one recalls the gutter press in the era. All of the songs are for Sophie Dahl.

No, I don't really believe that. I don't think Mick wears his heart on his sleeve, generally speaking.

Indeed, if we have learned anything about the man though the years, it's his guarded privacy.



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