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This is all silliness. All of them needed one another at the start as much as they needed management and promotion and opportunity and hunger and talent and luck. To speculate one member could have achieved the same with others or found their way on their own is ridiculous. They weren't Beethoven or Mozart. They were an R&B cover band that made good. Yes, they're amazing and yes, they deserve all that came their way, but the alignment of so many factors - musical chemistry, timing coming after The Beatles, just the right management & promotion, finding their way as performers and then songwriters. It is a one in a million chance or even greater to make it out of the pub circuit and then to have staying power. The factors that explain it are never about one or two people, it's all of them and everything that supported them and when and where they were in history. Change any of those factors and it would never be the same outcome.
Yep. So true. It's like the development of the universe after the Big Bang.
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what does he play on JJFlash[/quote
Just some rhythm guitar, right? The only thing still up in the air is whether Bill plays that cool little organ riff at the very end.
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While it's debated whether the Stones individually would have been successful, something that's obvious is the look of the band. Brian was the sharp dresser while the others, minus Charlie, looked like whatever smelled fresh in the laundry hamper. As the band progressed they look like they took cues from Brian. Keith and Mick did with scarves and jewelry that followed, influenced by Anita Pallenberg, Brian's former couturier.
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- Sitar "Ain't Nothin' Wrong With That"&"My Little One" (Hendrix)
- Dulcimer ´"Citadel"´´2000 Light Years From Home´´
- Koto “Take It or Leave It.”"Ride On, Baby"
- Concert Harp "On with the Show"
- Sarod "Gomper"
- Organ "Back Street Girl"
- Mellotron"Gomper" ¨Degree of Murder¨ (movie soundtrack)
- Harpsichord ´´Ruby Tuesday´´
- Soprano Saxophone "Sing This All Together""On with the Show"´´Something Happened to Me Yesterday´´ " "Basement Flat"&"Summer with Monica" (McGough and McGear)
- Trumpet ´´She’s a Rainbow´´
- Oboe ´´Dandelion´´
- Tuba ´´Something Happened to Me Yesterday´´
- Trombone ´´Something Happened to Me Yesterday´´
- Shehnai "Gomper""Sing This All Together"
- Recorder ´"Back Street Girl"
- Euphonium "Is This What I Get For Loving You?" (Marianne Faithfull)
- Ocarina ´´Yellow Submarine´´ (Beatles)
- Marimba "Yesterday's Papers"
- Theremin ´´2000 Light Years From Home´´ "Sing This All Together"
These are all incorrect.
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- Sitar "Ain't Nothin' Wrong With That"&"My Little One" (Hendrix)
- Dulcimer ´"Citadel"´´2000 Light Years From Home´´
- Koto “Take It or Leave It.”"Ride On, Baby"
- Concert Harp "On with the Show"
- Sarod "Gomper"
- Organ "Back Street Girl"
- Mellotron"Gomper" ¨Degree of Murder¨ (movie soundtrack)
- Harpsichord ´´Ruby Tuesday´´
- Soprano Saxophone "Sing This All Together""On with the Show"´´Something Happened to Me Yesterday´´ " "Basement Flat"&"Summer with Monica" (McGough and McGear)
- Trumpet ´´She’s a Rainbow´´
- Oboe ´´Dandelion´´
- Tuba ´´Something Happened to Me Yesterday´´
- Trombone ´´Something Happened to Me Yesterday´´
- Shehnai "Gomper""Sing This All Together"
- Recorder ´"Back Street Girl"
- Euphonium "Is This What I Get For Loving You?" (Marianne Faithfull)
- Ocarina ´´Yellow Submarine´´ (Beatles)
- Marimba "Yesterday's Papers"
- Theremin ´´2000 Light Years From Home´´ "Sing This All Together"
These are all incorrect.
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24FPS
While it's debated whether the Stones individually would have been successful, something that's obvious is the look of the band. Brian was the sharp dresser while the others, minus Charlie, looked like whatever smelled fresh in the laundry hamper. As the band progressed they look like they took cues from Brian. Keith and Mick did with scarves and jewelry that followed, influenced by Anita Pallenberg, Brian's former couturier.
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While it's debated whether the Stones individually would have been successful, something that's obvious is the look of the band. Brian was the sharp dresser while the others, minus Charlie, looked like whatever smelled fresh in the laundry hamper. As the band progressed they look like they took cues from Brian. Keith and Mick did with scarves and jewelry that followed, influenced by Anita Pallenberg, Brian's former couturier.
Brian’s former ‘couturier’? Did you recollect the Daily Mail’s pics of her, circa late 2000’s? Whatever she had; she lost. I suspect she had some influence, certainly, but Mick and Keith need add no debt of gratitude to Brian and his entourage. My opinion only, of course.
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Brian was a dandy. His look epitomized the swingin' 60s. He became more important to the Stones visually, than he did musically.
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Brian was a dandy. His look epitomized the swingin' 60s. He became more important to the Stones visually, than he did musically.
Quite the opposite of Mick Taylor then.
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In “Take It or Leave It” & "Ride On, Baby" Brian plays Koto, in ´´Something Happened to Me Yesterday´ Brian plays an entire brass section for sure.
Can you confirm if Brian plays all this instrumetns (sitar, organ, recorder, autoharp, dulcimer, clarinet, harmonica) in Degree of Murder?
And the last one, from what I find Brian plays saxophone on Mcgear second album is this correct and ocarina in Beatles Yellow Submarine, can you confirm this?
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It’s interesting even His Majesty is not certain what he played on JJ Flash
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Jagger and Richards would have been hugely successful in any band, just as Lennon and McCartney. They all are such huge intrinsic talents they would have become stars anyhow.
And I do not see Brian really as a multi-instrumentalist. To me a multi-instrumentalist is someone who really masters multiple instruments, whereas Brian only mastered one -the harmonica. He was fantastic at creating sounds and soundscapes, pushing ordinary songs into fantastically new directions. To me, someone like Paul McCartney is much more of a multi-instrumentalist, being one of the best bass players and singers ever, and being a very accomplished guitar and piano player.
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Brian was a dandy. His look epitomized the swingin' 60s. He became more important to the Stones visually, than he did musically.
Quite the opposite of Mick Taylor then.
Yes. Another aspect of why he never fit in. He was less mobile than Bill.
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Brian was a dandy. His look epitomized the swingin' 60s. He became more important to the Stones visually, than he did musically.
Quite the opposite of Mick Taylor then.
Yes. Another aspect of why he never fit in. He was less mobile than Bill.
Garbage. To me the Stones are about music, not appearance.
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As for Brian's style, I think he looked great but not that special for those times. Look at the pictures of the crowd in Swingin' 60s, you'll see lot of young men and women wearing same style. What I thought was really a bomb, was Jagger's red military jacket in 1966. Too bad we did not see it enough in color.
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Brian was a dandy. His look epitomized the swingin' 60s. He became more important to the Stones visually, than he did musically.
Quite the opposite of Mick Taylor then.
Yes. Another aspect of why he never fit in. He was less mobile than Bill.
Garbage. To me the Stones are about music, not appearance.
Rubbish. Refuse. Filth. 'Still waitin' here for a single idea. Your clothes and your hair, I wore it last year....'
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In “Take It or Leave It” & "Ride On, Baby" Brian plays Koto, in ´´Something Happened to Me Yesterday´ Brian plays an entire brass section for sure.
Can you confirm if Brian plays all this instrumetns (sitar, organ, recorder, autoharp, dulcimer, clarinet, harmonica) in Degree of Murder?
And the last one, from what I find Brian plays saxophone on Mcgear second album is this correct and ocarina in Beatles Yellow Submarine, can you confirm this?
Despite owning a koto, there are thus far no known recordings of Brian playing one.
What many think is koto on Take It Or Leave It is actually a harpsichord with lute stop/string dampener engaged. The same setting was used on I Am Waiting and later on In Another Land and On With The Show, in this instance some think it's concert harp.
Brian or Keith played autoharp on Ride On Baby. No koto on the track.
The strings and brass on Something Happened To Me Yesterday were played by session musicians, arranged and conducted by Arthur Greenslade.
For his soundtrack Brian played sitar, organ, recorder, autoharp, dulcimer, harmonica and possibly the brief bits of slide guitar on a melobar. Despite one being present at atleast one session, there is no mellotron on the soundtrack.
The Brian Jones on the McGough and McGear album is the saxophonist from Liverpool band The Undertakers. Brian's involvement on Yellow Submarine has often been claimed, but never confirmed even by mega Beatles heads with access to Abbey Road paperwork etc etc.
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He was fantastic at creating sounds and soundscapes, pushing ordinary songs into fantastically new directions.
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On With The Show: Brian plays Mellotron and Concert Harp. Piano and harpsichord (can be stop/string technique) Nicky Hopckins.
Yes its Mike Leander Orchestra on Something Happened To Me Yesterday, but! I resist to think that Brian dont play antyhing on this track, trompet or recorder maybe?
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Rocky Dijon
This is all silliness. All of them needed one another at the start as much as they needed management and promotion and opportunity and hunger and talent and luck. To speculate one member could have achieved the same with others or found their way on their own is ridiculous. They weren't Beethoven or Mozart. They were an R&B cover band that made good. Yes, they're amazing and yes, they deserve all that came their way, but the alignment of so many factors - musical chemistry, timing coming after The Beatles, just the right management & promotion, finding their way as performers and then songwriters. It is a one in a million chance or even greater to make it out of the pub circuit and then to have staying power. The factors that explain it are never about one or two people, it's all of them and everything that supported them and when and where they were in history. Change any of those factors and it would never be the same outcome.
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On With The Show: Brian plays Mellotron and Concert Harp. Piano and harpsichord (can be stop/string technique) Nicky Hopckins.
Yes its Mike Leander Orchestra on Something Happened To Me Yesterday, but! I resist to think that Brian dont play antyhing on this track, trompet or recorder maybe?
There is no concert harp on On With The Show. Nicky doubled the piano using harpsichord with lute stop/string damper engaged. People mistake this for concert harp.
Acid In The Grass is the only known recording featuring Brian playing concert harp.
It's possible Brian played acoustic guitar or piano on SHTMY, if he did indeed play on the track. Maybe he didn't.
No known recordings of Brian playing brass, non reed instruments such as trumpet, trombone etc.
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His Majesty
Very few people truly master instruments. Not that they ever tried do so, but none of The Rolling Stones have.