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ProfessorWolf
what exactly is the current situation between the stones and abcko i mean they can cooperate to release r&r circus, ya ya's deluxe, charlie is my darling, all the video and audio in crossfire hurricane, and on the air but can't work together to rerelease let it bleed and beggar's banquet
i find it hard to believe that mick hasn't taken notice of the same points that everyone brought up here about them being at the end of the rope of what can reasonably be released from the 70's and arguably they could have more quality stuff in the abcko vaults from the 60's then the 70's plus maybe less of it bootleged over the decades i'm not quite sure what's left from the 60's that hasn't been leaked seem to recall reading that a lot of the early outtakes were just wiped but i could be wrong
anyway if we're talking about abcko stuff what i'd kill a couple folks for is a complete box set of all the shows recorded for got live if you want it 66 and 65 plus the shows they recorded in ireland in 65 properly cleaned up and mixed into stereo
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MingSubu
Deluxe them all.
..."and let the IORR regulars sort them out"
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ProfessorWolf
what exactly is the current situation between the stones and abcko i mean they can cooperate to release r&r circus, ya ya's deluxe, charlie is my darling, all the video and audio in crossfire hurricane, and on the air but can't work together to rerelease let it bleed and beggar's banquet
i find it hard to believe that mick hasn't taken notice of the same points that everyone brought up here about them being at the end of the rope of what can reasonably be released from the 70's and arguably they could have more quality stuff in the abcko vaults from the 60's then the 70's plus maybe less of it bootleged over the decades i'm not quite sure what's left from the 60's that hasn't been leaked seem to recall reading that a lot of the early outtakes were just wiped but i could be wrong
anyway if we're talking about abcko stuff what i'd kill a couple folks for is a complete box set of all the shows recorded for got live if you want it 66 and 65 plus the shows they recorded in ireland in 65 properly cleaned up and mixed into stereo
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filstan
Deluxe 1969 US tour
Deluxe 1970 European Tour
Deluxe 1972 US tour
Deluxe 1971 UK tour
Deluxe 1973 European Tour
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Gazza
Its not a complaint. I'm glad they released them. All I'm saying is that by releasing it this way it minimises the possibility of putting out other expanded reissues from the 70's albums.
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Ross
How about this, Love You Live Deluxe Edition. One disc consists of the non El Macombo tracks remixed, remastered, extra track or 2 whatever you can do. Bonus discs would be both entire El Macombo shows. I would buy that!
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Ross
How about this, Love You Live Deluxe Edition. One disc consists of the non El Macombo tracks remixed, remastered, extra track or 2 whatever you can do. Bonus discs would be both entire El Macombo shows. I would buy that!
So would I.
I've never really understood what the problem is preventing a release of the entire El Macombo set . There are two shows to cobble the best bits together from ...so what has stopped it ?
We know from the side on LYL that it could make a great sounding album.
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ProfessorWolf
what exactly is the current situation between the stones and abcko i mean they can cooperate to release r&r circus, ya ya's deluxe, charlie is my darling, all the video and audio in crossfire hurricane, and on the air but can't work together to rerelease let it bleed and beggar's banquet
i find it hard to believe that mick hasn't taken notice of the same points that everyone brought up here about them being at the end of the rope of what can reasonably be released from the 70's and arguably they could have more quality stuff in the abcko vaults from the 60's then the 70's plus maybe less of it bootleged over the decades i'm not quite sure what's left from the 60's that hasn't been leaked seem to recall reading that a lot of the early outtakes were just wiped but i could be wrong
anyway if we're talking about abcko stuff what i'd kill a couple folks for is a complete box set of all the shows recorded for got live if you want it 66 and 65 plus the shows they recorded in ireland in 65 properly cleaned up and mixed into stereo
The situation between ABKCO and the Stones hasn't changed - ABKCO still owns the rights, but the Stones have the final say in whatever unreleased material, live, studio, whatever.
So they need each other to release anything that's previously unreleased. ABKCO can't do anything without the Stones' agreement, but the Stones also can't release anything "on their own" without ABKCO.
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ProfessorWolf
what exactly is the current situation between the stones and abcko i mean they can cooperate to release r&r circus, ya ya's deluxe, charlie is my darling, all the video and audio in crossfire hurricane, and on the air but can't work together to rerelease let it bleed and beggar's banquet
i find it hard to believe that mick hasn't taken notice of the same points that everyone brought up here about them being at the end of the rope of what can reasonably be released from the 70's and arguably they could have more quality stuff in the abcko vaults from the 60's then the 70's plus maybe less of it bootleged over the decades i'm not quite sure what's left from the 60's that hasn't been leaked seem to recall reading that a lot of the early outtakes were just wiped but i could be wrong
anyway if we're talking about abcko stuff what i'd kill a couple folks for is a complete box set of all the shows recorded for got live if you want it 66 and 65 plus the shows they recorded in ireland in 65 properly cleaned up and mixed into stereo
The situation between ABKCO and the Stones hasn't changed - ABKCO still owns the rights, but the Stones have the final say in whatever unreleased material, live, studio, whatever.
So they need each other to release anything that's previously unreleased. ABKCO can't do anything without the Stones' agreement, but the Stones also can't release anything "on their own" without ABKCO.
i understand that much my questions is are the parties more cooperative now as opposed to a few years ago is it more likely as mick stares down the fact that there running out of marketable material from there own vaults and they can't just tour forever that he has to find another sources of revenue he may be more open to working with abcko and striking a mutually beneficial deal on the release of all the great stuff from the 60's that they have barley touch as of yet
or is it possible they already have struck some kind of deal and are planning something big for the 60th next year
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ProfessorWolf
what exactly is the current situation between the stones and abcko i mean they can cooperate to release r&r circus, ya ya's deluxe, charlie is my darling, all the video and audio in crossfire hurricane, and on the air but can't work together to rerelease let it bleed and beggar's banquet
i find it hard to believe that mick hasn't taken notice of the same points that everyone brought up here about them being at the end of the rope of what can reasonably be released from the 70's and arguably they could have more quality stuff in the abcko vaults from the 60's then the 70's plus maybe less of it bootleged over the decades i'm not quite sure what's left from the 60's that hasn't been leaked seem to recall reading that a lot of the early outtakes were just wiped but i could be wrong
anyway if we're talking about abcko stuff what i'd kill a couple folks for is a complete box set of all the shows recorded for got live if you want it 66 and 65 plus the shows they recorded in ireland in 65 properly cleaned up and mixed into stereo
The situation between ABKCO and the Stones hasn't changed - ABKCO still owns the rights, but the Stones have the final say in whatever unreleased material, live, studio, whatever.
So they need each other to release anything that's previously unreleased. ABKCO can't do anything without the Stones' agreement, but the Stones also can't release anything "on their own" without ABKCO.
i understand that much my questions is are the parties more cooperative now as opposed to a few years ago is it more likely as mick stares down the fact that there running out of marketable material from there own vaults and they can't just tour forever that he has to find another sources of revenue he may be more open to working with abcko and striking a mutually beneficial deal on the release of all the great stuff from the 60's that they have barley touch as of yet
or is it possible they already have struck some kind of deal and are planning something big for the 60th next year
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Bashlets
All the big ones since 1971 are done. I wouldn’t be surprised if they revisit Exile for the 50th next year. Only us diehards want more. I love Black and Blue but I don’t see any market for a deluxe. Just my opinion
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ProfessorWolf
what exactly is the current situation between the stones and abcko i mean they can cooperate to release r&r circus, ya ya's deluxe, charlie is my darling, all the video and audio in crossfire hurricane, and on the air but can't work together to rerelease let it bleed and beggar's banquet
i find it hard to believe that mick hasn't taken notice of the same points that everyone brought up here about them being at the end of the rope of what can reasonably be released from the 70's and arguably they could have more quality stuff in the abcko vaults from the 60's then the 70's plus maybe less of it bootleged over the decades i'm not quite sure what's left from the 60's that hasn't been leaked seem to recall reading that a lot of the early outtakes were just wiped but i could be wrong
anyway if we're talking about abcko stuff what i'd kill a couple folks for is a complete box set of all the shows recorded for got live if you want it 66 and 65 plus the shows they recorded in ireland in 65 properly cleaned up and mixed into stereo
The situation between ABKCO and the Stones hasn't changed - ABKCO still owns the rights, but the Stones have the final say in whatever unreleased material, live, studio, whatever.
So they need each other to release anything that's previously unreleased. ABKCO can't do anything without the Stones' agreement, but the Stones also can't release anything "on their own" without ABKCO.
i understand that much my questions is are the parties more cooperative now as opposed to a few years ago is it more likely as mick stares down the fact that there running out of marketable material from there own vaults and they can't just tour forever that he has to find another sources of revenue he may be more open to working with abcko and striking a mutually beneficial deal on the release of all the great stuff from the 60's that they have barley touch as of yet
or is it possible they already have struck some kind of deal and are planning something big for the 60th next year
Yes and no, they've shown that they can cooperate like on the projects you mentioned above and others like career-spanning compilations like 40 Licks and GRRR!, but as far as I know there's still no general agreement, it's always project-based, therefore we had Satanic, Beggars & Bleed anniversary sets without any unreleased bonus material. There was talk some time ago that the Stones supposedly tried to buy the rights back from ABKCO to get full control over their entire catalog, but nothing came to frution so far (or otherwise it would be the best kept secret in the world!).
Meanwhile, a lot of 60's live and studio material have entered the public domain due to EC copyright legislation and the Stones did nothing to prevent this by allowing ABKCO to release the material in question timely enough (like Dylan, for example).
There's talk behind the scenes that next year's 60th anniversary will not only see the release of the all-new album but also more archive material, some in cooperation with ABKCO, but I'm not allowed to go into further details here.
Let's just wait and see what they have in store for us next year!
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Hairball
A new album of new/original material?
Wishful thinking...hope it happens...have my doubts...16 years and counting...
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Hairball
Not necessarily you who will look like a complete idiot, but if you say so...
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Ross
How about this, Love You Live Deluxe Edition. One disc consists of the non El Macombo tracks remixed, remastered, extra track or 2 whatever you can do. Bonus discs would be both entire El Macombo shows. I would buy that!
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Hairball
A new album of new/original material?
Wishful thinking...hope it happens...have my doubts...16 years and counting...
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filstan
Deluxe 1969 US tour
Deluxe 1970 European Tour
Deluxe 1972 US tour
Deluxe 1971 UK tour
Deluxe 1973 European Tour
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Ross
How about this, Love You Live Deluxe Edition. One disc consists of the non El Macombo tracks remixed, remastered, extra track or 2 whatever you can do. Bonus discs would be both entire El Macombo shows. I would buy that!
So would I.
I've never really understood what the problem is preventing a release of the entire El Macombo set . There are two shows to cobble the best bits together from ...so what has stopped it ?
We know from the side on LYL that it could make a great sounding album.
It's been discussed extensively over here. Apparently not all those tapes are in great shape