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TheGreek
A most fine mess at massive ticket prices for a diminished product . Hint - they should not tour , but you can't let the money get in the way of "Business" SHAME !Quote
Hairball
Seems a bit devious and misleading to announce the rescheduled shows if they already had Steve Jordan signed on back in early July while knowing Charlie wouldn't be involved.
..particularly since tickets bought after the recent tour dates were announced were (a) flogged with ‘dynamic pricing’ into the stratosphere and (b) aren’t refundable. I’m actually pretty peeved, but expect the whole thing to go down in flames any day now anyway.
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TheGreek
A most fine mess at massive ticket prices for a diminished product . Hint - they should not tour , but you can't let the money get in the way of "Business" SHAME !Quote
Hairball
Seems a bit devious and misleading to announce the rescheduled shows if they already had Steve Jordan signed on back in early July while knowing Charlie wouldn't be involved.
..particularly since tickets bought after the recent tour dates were announced were (a) flogged with ‘dynamic pricing’ into the stratosphere and (b) aren’t refundable. I’m actually pretty peeved, but expect the whole thing to go down in flames any day now anyway.
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schwonek
Question: Will Steve Jordan use Charlies drumset in order for him to sound like Charlie? I doubt that a Yamaha will sound like Charlies Gretsch.
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TheGreek
A most fine mess at massive ticket prices for a diminished product . Hint - they should not tour , but you can't let the money get in the way of "Business" SHAME !Quote
Hairball
Seems a bit devious and misleading to announce the rescheduled shows if they already had Steve Jordan signed on back in early July while knowing Charlie wouldn't be involved.
..particularly since tickets bought after the recent tour dates were announced were (a) flogged with ‘dynamic pricing’ into the stratosphere and (b) aren’t refundable. I’m actually pretty peeved, but expect the whole thing to go down in flames any day now anyway.
Disingenuous to say the least.
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being watching Ronnie's latest photos lately, asking myself if the time to say the show must stop has come for the band
I thought he looked healthy on the August 10 pics.
Yes I was referring to those DP. Don't know, somehow they put me down, the expression in his eyes, don't know maybe it's just me..
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schwonek
Question: Will Steve Jordan use Charlies drumset in order for him to sound like Charlie? I doubt that a Yamaha will sound like Charlies Gretsch.
How anyone could tell nuances like this in a big football stadium is beyond me.
Of course he will use his own drums. This is a professional drum player not some @#$%& they pull up out of the audience because their drummer is fcuked up and cannot continue.
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schwonek
Question: Will Steve Jordan use Charlies drumset in order for him to sound like Charlie? I doubt that a Yamaha will sound like Charlies Gretsch.
How anyone could tell nuances like this in a big football stadium is beyond me.
Of course he will use his own drums. This is a professional drum player not some @#$%& they pull up out of the audience because their drummer is fcuked up and cannot continue.
jb
Because the various screens will also highlight each musician up close.
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GlimmerGirl24
Steve Jordan signed on in early July
and was Keith's choice.
No idea how long Charlie has been ill,
but it does appear the illness was discovered prior to July.
Charlie is expected to recover, but it's unlikely he'll join the tour later on.
Thanks GlimmerGirl.
Hope you get Cherry Oh Baby!
Ok, so it sounds very much like the band knew Charlie wouldn't be playing this tour even before they decided to pull the trigger and proceed with it.
And they separated the two big announcements in this manner, in the reverse sequence of when the information was known internally because, well "Three-Quarters Of The Rolling Stones To Tour This Fall" is actually two pieces of news that step on each other rather awkwardly delivered all at once.
They couldn't do the announcements in their actual order because to announce "Charlie Watts can't tour for several months" would be to signal the band is, or was, looking at touring in that time period. And it'd set off this whole raucous argument among fans about can or should the Stones tour without him, just ahead of the announcement of the tour. They opted to announce the tour into less choppy waters.
But they reserved a way to deny they've known for a month Charlie wouldn't be touring, with the out that, it wasn't 100% certain he wouldn't be on a Fall tour until just days ago. He might have recovered with miraculous speed. Or he could always just have disobeyed his doctors' orders and gone anyway.
If so, that was the purpose behind the the wording of the message that went out under Charlie's name. That he had only just then, immediately before that announcement, decided that he really must obey his doctors' orders and not tour. Implied is that his decision to accept his need for convalescence was brand new.
What do others think... is that how Rolling Stones Inc. managed it?
I actually think I don't blame them much if that is how it happened.
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TheGreek
A most fine mess at massive ticket prices for a diminished product . Hint - they should not tour , but you can't let the money get in the way of "Business" SHAME !Quote
Hairball
Seems a bit devious and misleading to announce the rescheduled shows if they already had Steve Jordan signed on back in early July while knowing Charlie wouldn't be involved.
..particularly since tickets bought after the recent tour dates were announced were (a) flogged with ‘dynamic pricing’ into the stratosphere and (b) aren’t refundable. I’m actually pretty peeved, but expect the whole thing to go down in flames any day now anyway.
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The Delta variant is just one of many more to come. Since this is ALL being driven by the unvaxxed, there is no reason to stop anything. This is how we will be living for the foreseeable future. There will be no herd immunity or wait until….
The time is now.
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schwonek
Question: Will Steve Jordan use Charlies drumset in order for him to sound like Charlie? I doubt that a Yamaha will sound like Charlies Gretsch.
How anyone could tell nuances like this in a big football stadium is beyond me.
Of course he will use his own drums. This is a professional drum player not some @#$%& they pull up out of the audience because their drummer is fcuked up and cannot continue.
jb
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dnewton99
did that really happen? a drummer replaced by an audience member?
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dnewton99
oooh did that happen to some band where they borrowed a spectator to be the drummer???
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oooh did that happen to some band where they borrowed a spectator to be the drummer???
Happened to The Who. Keith Moon drank horse tranquilizer before a show to calm his nerves, only to pass out during the set. Fan in the crowd, Scott Haplin, filled in for him.
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oooh did that happen to some band where they borrowed a spectator to be the drummer???
Happened to The Who. Keith Moon drank horse tranquilizer before a show to calm his nerves, only to pass out during the set. Fan in the crowd, Scott Haplin, filled in for him.
Wow...never heard that story, very cool.
I wondered what happened to Scott after all this time. He was an artist, passed away in 2008 of a brain tumor. So sad.
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schwonek
Question: Will Steve Jordan use Charlies drumset in order for him to sound like Charlie? I doubt that a Yamaha will sound like Charlies Gretsch.
How anyone could tell nuances like this in a big football stadium is beyond me.
Of course he will use his own drums. This is a professional drum player not some @#$%& they pull up out of the audience because their drummer is fcuked up and cannot continue.
jb
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wonderboy
I'm a bit surprised the nature of the surgery hasn't been reported.