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Story was broken by The Sun. and subsequently posted by the Daily Mail. To their credit,they did cite The Sun as their source.
The Sun headline:
MISS YOU Rolling Stones star Charlie Watts forced to pull out of American tour after emergency op in London hospital
[www.thesun.co.uk]
That's fair enough, as I said, just wondering..........
Re. The second bit, to be fair, you did suggest the comments attributed to him by Rolling Stone were not his words at all but the PR dept. (status & motivation) and that, by default, he was just an inert bystander whilst his drum kit was taken over. I doubt that.
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The official statement said Mr. Watts “has had a procedure which was completely successful.” Rolling Stone magazine, which has some journalistic standards, described it as “an unspecified medical procedure.” The Daily Mail and the Sun are sometimes prone to exaggeration. We don’t know whether or not it was an emergency or even surgery. There’s not much point in speculating. Whatever it was, we all hope Charlie makes a full recovery.
______________________________________________
Sorry it was actually CNN. I thought it was RollingStone ... (which is even arguably as
spot on correct as CNN ... maybe better when it comes to the inside and accuraccy on music?).
I think you are right though. Anyway here is the link to CNN.
Note under the picturte it says 'part of' an upcoming tour. Probably just a misprint. I thought perhaps they were keeping that open but with no rehearsals with the band that isnt going to happen. Not at this age .. not in these types of shows.
[www.cnn.com]
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A storm is threatenin' this very tour today...
No need for drama...and then state something completely dramatic!
I know it's likely wiser not to react to someone who's calling me names, but jeez, what an immature drivel, obviously from one of these "people who live in a world of their own and have not understood shit about how the world works" as Testify so aptly named them.
This is what I wrote in a different thread about this topic:
"With all due respect, but I think you all moralise this a bit too much. Friendship, camaderie, yes, ok, but in the cold light of business contracts they may have no other choice, not only for monetary reasons but also and in particular saving a chance to have a future even with Charlie at all.
You can only break contracts so often until you reach a point where nobody offers you contracts anymore at all."
So better think twice if following your heroic stance and advice to break existing contracts would do any good for the band and last, but not least, Charlie in particular.
Sorry, I never meant to say Charlie was a bystander or that he didn't have a say in things. I never addressed his "status" or his "motivation". What I meant was the PR people for the band will always embellish the statements.
In this instance, yes, it's obviously true they don't want people to disappointed because of a cancellation or a postponement. But I just pointed the statement doesn't mention the part about their contractual obligation to tour without Charlie if he's unavailable. This is why I said they "could not cancel".
I also wrote that Charlie alone probably didn't just "call Steve Jordan" and choose him. I'd expect that kind of decision to be a band decision/at least have Mick's and Keith's blessings.
Chances are they have their bases covered in case something like this happens and Steve Jordan was a contingency plan all along.
Rolling Stone didn't interview Charlie, they quoted the statements released by the band. Same with The Sun and Daily Mail. The tabloids just broke the story first, before the band did.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2021-08-09 09:28 by Topi.
What they call a "Tempest in a Teapot" if you've ever gone to Bard on the Beach.
Well summarized. While a surgery can also be called a "surgical procedure" there are countless, less invasive medical "procedures."
The "emergency" part may well just be tabloid talk.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-08-09 10:09 by Topi.
Fair enough.........
I should imagine this is true......I can imagine, Charlie getting the news about the op and doctor's advice, phoning Mick and Keith and an instant agreement on calling SJ.................(I do believe that those were his own words though and Charlie actually called him .............(That rang true for me.........
Regarding the whole thing, I like the saying "The only constant is change"...............So, we'll see I guess whether SJ has the power and skill to hold up Charlie's end whilst making it his own for a while...............................
Won't be their last shows.
Absolutely agree with your points, although taking a knee is apparently en vogue right now..
But there will always be different opinions. I for one would never ever see the Stones without Charlie. The show must go on? I don't think so.
Well, dang, that's a 1st world problem if ever I heard of one...................
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Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
bye bye johnny
()
Date: August 8, 2021 23:26
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HairballQuote
Dougratajczak87
Nowhere in the announcement does it say emergency surgery
You're right, but it's in the title of this thread, and it's in the first sentence of the first paragraph of the first post which was taken from the first article posted in this thread.
Granted it's taken from the Daily Mail tabloid which can tend to overblow/exaggerate things ala the National Enquirer, but that's what it said.
Story was broken by The Sun. and subsequently posted by the Daily Mail. To their credit,they did cite The Sun as their source.
The Sun headline:
MISS YOU Rolling Stones star Charlie Watts forced to pull out of American tour after emergency op in London hospital
[www.thesun.co.uk]
Re: Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, 80, pulls out of band's US tour after undergoing emergency surgery in London
Posted by:
EddieByword
()
Date: August 9, 2021 00:14
Quote
TopiQuote
EddieByword
Just wondering.........has anyone on this forum actually seen the contract that stipulates that the show must go on with or without Charlie?
- - -
And, if it is not in the contract to stop for Charlie, that means the Stones must have signed that way, which means that it's ok with them.........
- -
As I say, anyone seen these new contracts first hand to allow such bold comments as to Charlie's status and his motivation?
Haven't seen any new contracts obviously but I remember the 2014 court documents, at least excerpts of them, and already back then it was revealed their insurance did not cover Charlie's absence; he could be replaced. Trust me, I remember that very well. I wanna say it was discussed on here as well but maybe that thread has since been deleted.
I don't know what you mean by Charlie's "status and his motivation". I for one haven't talked about either.
And of course all four members have signed off on those contracts. In the end, it means insurance cost savings.
That's fair enough, as I said, just wondering..........
Re. The second bit, to be fair, you did suggest the comments attributed to him by Rolling Stone were not his words at all but the PR dept. (status & motivation) and that, by default, he was just an inert bystander whilst his drum kit was taken over. I doubt that.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-08-09 00:18 by EddieByword.
Re: Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, 80, pulls out of band's US tour after undergoing emergency surgery in London
Posted by:
DoomandGloom
()
Date: August 9, 2021 00:41
The Rolling Jordans..... you heard it here first
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
bam
()
Date: August 9, 2021 01:00
Quote
bam
Let’s try to separate what we do know from what we don’t and is likely p.r.:
- Charlie had a “procedure.” It could have been oral surgery or an injection for back pain. It could have been, and we all hope not, extremely serious. We don’t know.
- Charlie isn’t going on the tour.
- The indication from the statements is that Charlie will skip the entire American tour, and approved (at some point) of Steve Jordan going out as his replacement.
- Charlie did not announce his retirement.
- Charlie hopes to do something with the group later this year, presumably after the tour.
- Charlie will presumably do something with the group next year for the anniversary, but we don’t know what Charlie will/can do.
There may be insiders who know more but can’t say. But I don’t think we can say much more about Charlie from what has been announced.
The official statement said Mr. Watts “has had a procedure which was completely successful.” Rolling Stone magazine, which has some journalistic standards, described it as “an unspecified medical procedure.” The Daily Mail and the Sun are sometimes prone to exaggeration. We don’t know whether or not it was an emergency or even surgery. There’s not much point in speculating. Whatever it was, we all hope Charlie makes a full recovery.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
dennycranium
()
Date: August 9, 2021 01:13
The band doesn't owe us ANYTHING. If Charlie, at 80 years old, wants to sit out a few shows? Please, Charlie, take care of yourself. Steve Jordan is a great drummer. He has a shorthand with Keith as well. SJ reveres the band, the songs and the opportunity.
The Rolling Stones get to decide what to call the band. We, as concert goers get to decide whether or not we want to spend the $$ on tickets. We've been BEYOND lucky at the touring the band has done over the last 9 years. And, I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the ticket holders will even realize that Charlie isn't present. They think of Mick and Keith when they think Rolling Stones.
This tour isn't just about the band and we rabid fans.
The concert business has been decimated.
These shows will be a HUGE economic boost to the cities they play in. The crew that works for the band sure can use the income.
Charlie gave his blessing for SJ to sit in for him.
I've been listening to SLC from 2005. The tempo is incredible. Yes, the tempo of some of the songs has slowed down, since 2016. Keith flubs intros and forgets riffs. Charlie may have been playing through the pain.
SJ may give the band a little oomph tempo wise, especially for Keith. This is NOT a criticism of Charlie's playing. If he's injured, he may have had to slow down a bit.
I can see one or two shows with SJ on drums.
Hopefully, Charlie will be back in 2022.
The Rolling Stones get to decide what to call the band. We, as concert goers get to decide whether or not we want to spend the $$ on tickets. We've been BEYOND lucky at the touring the band has done over the last 9 years. And, I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the ticket holders will even realize that Charlie isn't present. They think of Mick and Keith when they think Rolling Stones.
This tour isn't just about the band and we rabid fans.
The concert business has been decimated.
These shows will be a HUGE economic boost to the cities they play in. The crew that works for the band sure can use the income.
Charlie gave his blessing for SJ to sit in for him.
I've been listening to SLC from 2005. The tempo is incredible. Yes, the tempo of some of the songs has slowed down, since 2016. Keith flubs intros and forgets riffs. Charlie may have been playing through the pain.
SJ may give the band a little oomph tempo wise, especially for Keith. This is NOT a criticism of Charlie's playing. If he's injured, he may have had to slow down a bit.
I can see one or two shows with SJ on drums.
Hopefully, Charlie will be back in 2022.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
BitchKeepsBitchin
()
Date: August 9, 2021 01:16
Yes we are all disappointed that Charlie is unwell and wont be part of this tour. It wont be the same without him but I continue to pledge my love and devotion for "my band" and will go to as many shows as possible until "the last time" whenever that may be.
I'm a little worried that Steve J will not be good enough to end the live songs as Charlie always ends each song with a ba-bam or a ba-boom when he thinks the songs should be over because sometimes KEEF or Ronnie keep going and Charlie knows exactly when to stop the live numbers. That comes with years of experience playing with these guys. I hope they srart rehearsals soon because they are really going to need more than working off the rust and dust. It's going to be harder for all of them.
I'm a little worried that Steve J will not be good enough to end the live songs as Charlie always ends each song with a ba-bam or a ba-boom when he thinks the songs should be over because sometimes KEEF or Ronnie keep going and Charlie knows exactly when to stop the live numbers. That comes with years of experience playing with these guys. I hope they srart rehearsals soon because they are really going to need more than working off the rust and dust. It's going to be harder for all of them.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
IanBillen
()
Date: August 9, 2021 01:27
Quote
bye bye johnnyQuote
IanBillen
Still wonder why it is saying he will join the band on stage later in the year and why Rollingstone magazine says he wil miss 'part' of the upcoming tour under his picture.
The Sun article didn't say "on stage":
"He will be replaced by hot session drummer and friend of the band Steve Jordan — but still plans to rejoin bandmates Sir Mick Jagger, 78, Keith Richards, 77, and Ronnie Wood, 74, later this year."
[www.the-sun.com]
Rolling Stone article said Charlie will not be a part of the upcoming tour:
"The Rolling Stones announced that drummer Charlie Watts will not be a part of their upcoming No Filter tour of U.S. stadiums after undergoing an unspecified medical procedure. Longtime Stones associate Steve Jordan, who is a member of Keith Richards’ side project X-Pensive Winos, will be taking his place."
[www.rollingstone.com]
______________________________________________
Sorry it was actually CNN. I thought it was RollingStone ... (which is even arguably as
spot on correct as CNN ... maybe better when it comes to the inside and accuraccy on music?).
I think you are right though. Anyway here is the link to CNN.
Note under the picturte it says 'part of' an upcoming tour. Probably just a misprint. I thought perhaps they were keeping that open but with no rehearsals with the band that isnt going to happen. Not at this age .. not in these types of shows.
[www.cnn.com]
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Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
windmelody
()
Date: August 9, 2021 01:40
Of course one has to respect the privacy of each member of the band - and of course all good wishes go to Mr. Watts. Steve Jordan is a very good drummer. Yet, I cannot imagine a Stones concert without Charlie Watts - and I would not underestimate the number of people who feel the same. If they can play some more shows, fine - but it would be nice, if everything would not end up in a huge embarrassment. Here comes a secret: There might be guitarists around, who could be even better than Ronnie Wood. Would I like to hear a Stones concert without Ronnie Wood at this point? No.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: August 9, 2021 02:38
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HairballQuote
TumblinDice76
This is kind of the Bad MOJO tour.
Yeah...the first postponement, then the Charlie announcement right after rescheduling, now the Jazz fest cancellation... dark clouds everywhere...things are seemingly getting bleaker by the day.
A storm is threatenin' this very tour today...
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: August 9, 2021 02:41
Quote
Stoneage
No need for drama. They'll do this tour and then it's probably over.
No need for drama...and then state something completely dramatic!
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: August 9, 2021 05:04
It's 2021.
Stupidity reigns.
So much fake drama, fake news, regarding Charlie's decision to have Steve Jordan fill in.
The &*$^ ANYONE thinks he would retire having said what he said?
Goddamn a lot of y'all suck. Fake Stones fans.
FAKE STONES FANS.
FAKE STONES FANS.
Stupidity reigns.
So much fake drama, fake news, regarding Charlie's decision to have Steve Jordan fill in.
The &*$^ ANYONE thinks he would retire having said what he said?
Goddamn a lot of y'all suck. Fake Stones fans.
FAKE STONES FANS.
FAKE STONES FANS.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
DoomandGloom
()
Date: August 9, 2021 05:24
Fake Stones Fans for fake StonesQuote
GasLightStreet
It's 2021.
Stupidity reigns.
So much fake drama, fake news, regarding Charlie's decision to have Steve Jordan fill in.
The &*$^ ANYONE thinks he would retire having said what he said?
Goddamn a lot of y'all suck. Fake Stones fans.
FAKE STONES FANS.
FAKE STONES FANS.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
retired_dog
()
Date: August 9, 2021 05:28
Quote
TooTough
After reading most of the crap in this thread I must realize
that I´m in a wrong place after being here for 20 years.
Reading this thread made me realize that I am a purist,
a nerd, a fanatic, a Stones-Taliban.
I´m totally upset that M+K go on without Charlie, even if it
was for just one show.
I´m totally upset that they kneel down in front of insurances,
sponsors and contracts at this stage of their career. They make
their own rules. They are the Greatest Band in the World.
I´m totally upset that most of the people on IORR buy this excuse.
I´m totally upset that they don´t say “Fvck the contract. No Charlie,
no tour! What´s the fine?”
I´m totally upset that Charlie isn´t irreplaceable for most of
the people here.
I´m totally upset that the common sense on IORR is that
another drummer could replace him and add something to the
sound/setlist the day and the day after the news.
And this will go on. Treason.
I´m totally upset that even the webmaster of this site is
curious what the new one will do on Midnight Rambler.
I´m totally upset that some here are criticizing Charlies
drumming/style/tempo – in a band that is known for doing
so with any instrument, the singer included – for 60 @#$%&
years. It´s their trademark. Their DNA. Unbelievable bullshit.
I´m totally upset that I have to explain that to “soulbrothers
and soulsisters” on a Rolling Stones fansite.
Retired-dog said “Did you perform the same or a similar drama
when Bill left?”. Ass_hole. I wouldn´t tell you. Why posting
the answer on this site? Useless anyway. There´s just a handful
of people who feel the same as me. But that´s good to know.
I´ve seen the band 63 times (3 times with Bill), have achieved
anything I wanted. Some really important informations I got on
IORR. Thanks, bv. This was always a helpful community, but the
Charlie news “sorted the wheat from the chaff“. It will never
be the same, for the Stones and for this site. I couldn´t stand
the band touring without Charlie and reading enthusiastic posts
of how good Steve Jordan fit in.
Like what Keith once said to Bill German: "Forward, brother!"
bv, please delete my account. Thank you.
Rolling Stones forever.
I know it's likely wiser not to react to someone who's calling me names, but jeez, what an immature drivel, obviously from one of these "people who live in a world of their own and have not understood shit about how the world works" as Testify so aptly named them.
This is what I wrote in a different thread about this topic:
"With all due respect, but I think you all moralise this a bit too much. Friendship, camaderie, yes, ok, but in the cold light of business contracts they may have no other choice, not only for monetary reasons but also and in particular saving a chance to have a future even with Charlie at all.
You can only break contracts so often until you reach a point where nobody offers you contracts anymore at all."
So better think twice if following your heroic stance and advice to break existing contracts would do any good for the band and last, but not least, Charlie in particular.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
floodonthepage
()
Date: August 9, 2021 06:36
Quote
dennycranium
The band doesn't owe us ANYTHING. If Charlie, at 80 years old, wants to sit out a few shows? Please, Charlie, take care of yourself. Steve Jordan is a great drummer. He has a shorthand with Keith as well. SJ reveres the band, the songs and the opportunity.
The Rolling Stones get to decide what to call the band. We, as concert goers get to decide whether or not we want to spend the $$ on tickets. We've been BEYOND lucky at the touring the band has done over the last 9 years. And, I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the ticket holders will even realize that Charlie isn't present. They think of Mick and Keith when they think Rolling Stones.
This tour isn't just about the band and we rabid fans.
The concert business has been decimated.
These shows will be a HUGE economic boost to the cities they play in. The crew that works for the band sure can use the income.
Charlie gave his blessing for SJ to sit in for him.
I've been listening to SLC from 2005. The tempo is incredible. Yes, the tempo of some of the songs has slowed down, since 2016. Keith flubs intros and forgets riffs. Charlie may have been playing through the pain.
SJ may give the band a little oomph tempo wise, especially for Keith. This is NOT a criticism of Charlie's playing. If he's injured, he may have had to slow down a bit.
I can see one or two shows with SJ on drums.
Hopefully, Charlie will be back in 2022.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
jumpingjackflash5
()
Date: August 9, 2021 06:40
Yes I agree that there are business reasons behind this decision.
But, at the same time, it makes a tough temptation both for Stones and the fans to continue in the new lineup.
And that path leads to nowhere.
We shall resist the replacement of key band members at this stage. We cannot compare with 1991,1974 or 1969.
Let's hope that Charlie gets healthy enough so that he can play some shows in 2022. That would be a great way to finish the unprecedented career.
And if not, just stop after those autumn shows, say farewell to the fans and enjoy life as it goes.
But, at the same time, it makes a tough temptation both for Stones and the fans to continue in the new lineup.
And that path leads to nowhere.
We shall resist the replacement of key band members at this stage. We cannot compare with 1991,1974 or 1969.
Let's hope that Charlie gets healthy enough so that he can play some shows in 2022. That would be a great way to finish the unprecedented career.
And if not, just stop after those autumn shows, say farewell to the fans and enjoy life as it goes.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
imjoshwatson
()
Date: August 9, 2021 07:17
I’m not going to tell anyone how to be a fan but for me, I don’t want my last shows to be with Steve Jordan on drums.
Charlie Watts is The Rolling Stones. It’s been a great ride. Seen 60 shows. Get well soon.
Charlie Watts is The Rolling Stones. It’s been a great ride. Seen 60 shows. Get well soon.
Re: Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, 80, pulls out of band's US tour after undergoing emergency surgery in London
Posted by:
Topi
()
Date: August 9, 2021 07:34
Quote
EddieByword
Re. The second bit, to be fair, you did suggest the comments attributed to him by Rolling Stone were not his words at all but the PR dept. (status & motivation) and that, by default, he was just an inert bystander whilst his drum kit was taken over. I doubt that.
Sorry, I never meant to say Charlie was a bystander or that he didn't have a say in things. I never addressed his "status" or his "motivation". What I meant was the PR people for the band will always embellish the statements.
In this instance, yes, it's obviously true they don't want people to disappointed because of a cancellation or a postponement. But I just pointed the statement doesn't mention the part about their contractual obligation to tour without Charlie if he's unavailable. This is why I said they "could not cancel".
I also wrote that Charlie alone probably didn't just "call Steve Jordan" and choose him. I'd expect that kind of decision to be a band decision/at least have Mick's and Keith's blessings.
Chances are they have their bases covered in case something like this happens and Steve Jordan was a contingency plan all along.
Rolling Stone didn't interview Charlie, they quoted the statements released by the band. Same with The Sun and Daily Mail. The tabloids just broke the story first, before the band did.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2021-08-09 09:28 by Topi.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
DGA35
()
Date: August 9, 2021 07:35
At this point, with the way covid numbers are rising and one show already cancelled, there is a chance that Steve Jordan won't even play any shows with the Stones!
Re: Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, 80, pulls out of band's US tour after undergoing emergency surgery in London
Posted by:
Topi
()
Date: August 9, 2021 07:43
Very true.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: August 9, 2021 07:53
Quote
DGA35
At this point, with the way covid numbers are rising and one show already cancelled, there is a chance that Steve Jordan won't even play any shows with the Stones!
What they call a "Tempest in a Teapot" if you've ever gone to Bard on the Beach.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
Topi
()
Date: August 9, 2021 09:59
Quote
bam
The official statement said Mr. Watts “has had a procedure which was completely successful.” Rolling Stone magazine, which has some journalistic standards, described it as “an unspecified medical procedure.” The Daily Mail and the Sun are sometimes prone to exaggeration. We don’t know whether or not it was an emergency or even surgery. There’s not much point in speculating. Whatever it was, we all hope Charlie makes a full recovery.
Well summarized. While a surgery can also be called a "surgical procedure" there are countless, less invasive medical "procedures."
The "emergency" part may well just be tabloid talk.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-08-09 10:09 by Topi.
Re: Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, 80, pulls out of band's US tour after undergoing emergency surgery in London
Posted by:
EddieByword
()
Date: August 9, 2021 10:49
Quote
TopiQuote
EddieByword
Re. The second bit, to be fair, you did suggest the comments attributed to him by Rolling Stone were not his words at all but the PR dept. (status & motivation) and that, by default, he was just an inert bystander whilst his drum kit was taken over. I doubt that.
Sorry, I never meant to say Charlie was a bystander or that he didn't have a say in things. I never addressed his "status" or his "motivation". What I meant was the PR people for the band will always embellish the statements.
In this instance, yes, it's obviously true they don't want people to disappointed because of a cancellation or a postponement. But I just pointed the statement doesn't mention the part about their contractual obligation to tour without Charlie if he's unavailable. This is why I said they "could not cancel".
I also wrote that Charlie alone probably didn't just "call Steve Jordan" and choose him. I'd expect that kind of decision to be a band decision/at least have Mick's and Keith's blessings.
Chances are they have their bases covered in case something like this happens and Steve Jordan was a contingency plan all along.
Rolling Stone didn't interview Charlie, they quoted the statements released by the band. Same with The Sun and Daily Mail. The tabloids just broke the story first, before the band did.
Fair enough.........
I should imagine this is true......I can imagine, Charlie getting the news about the op and doctor's advice, phoning Mick and Keith and an instant agreement on calling SJ.................(I do believe that those were his own words though and Charlie actually called him .............(That rang true for me.........
Regarding the whole thing, I like the saying "The only constant is change"...............So, we'll see I guess whether SJ has the power and skill to hold up Charlie's end whilst making it his own for a while...............................
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: August 9, 2021 11:45
Quote
imjoshwatson
I’m not going to tell anyone how to be a fan but for me, I don’t want my last shows to be with Steve Jordan on drums.
Charlie Watts is The Rolling Stones. It’s been a great ride. Seen 60 shows. Get well soon.
Won't be their last shows.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
calipachangero
()
Date: August 9, 2021 12:11
Quote
TooTough
After reading most of the crap in this thread I must realize
that I´m in a wrong place after being here for 20 years.
Reading this thread made me realize that I am a purist,
a nerd, a fanatic, a Stones-Taliban.
I´m totally upset that M+K go on without Charlie, even if it
was for just one show.
I´m totally upset that they kneel down in front of insurances,
sponsors and contracts at this stage of their career. They make
their own rules. They are the Greatest Band in the World.
I´m totally upset that most of the people on IORR buy this excuse.
I´m totally upset that they don´t say “Fvck the contract. No Charlie,
no tour! What´s the fine?”
I´m totally upset that Charlie isn´t irreplaceable for most of
the people here.
I´m totally upset that the common sense on IORR is that
another drummer could replace him and add something to the
sound/setlist the day and the day after the news.
And this will go on. Treason.
I´m totally upset that even the webmaster of this site is
curious what the new one will do on Midnight Rambler.
I´m totally upset that some here are criticizing Charlies
drumming/style/tempo – in a band that is known for doing
so with any instrument, the singer included – for 60 @#$%&
years. It´s their trademark. Their DNA. Unbelievable bullshit.
I´m totally upset that I have to explain that to “soulbrothers
and soulsisters” on a Rolling Stones fansite.
Retired-dog said “Did you perform the same or a similar drama
when Bill left?”. Ass_hole. I wouldn´t tell you. Why posting
the answer on this site? Useless anyway. There´s just a handful
of people who feel the same as me. But that´s good to know.
I´ve seen the band 63 times (3 times with Bill), have achieved
anything I wanted. Some really important informations I got on
IORR. Thanks, bv. This was always a helpful community, but the
Charlie news “sorted the wheat from the chaff“. It will never
be the same, for the Stones and for this site. I couldn´t stand
the band touring without Charlie and reading enthusiastic posts
of how good Steve Jordan fit in.
Like what Keith once said to Bill German: "Forward, brother!"
bv, please delete my account. Thank you.
Rolling Stones forever.
Absolutely agree with your points, although taking a knee is apparently en vogue right now..
But there will always be different opinions. I for one would never ever see the Stones without Charlie. The show must go on? I don't think so.Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
EddieByword
()
Date: August 9, 2021 13:20
Quote
TooTough
After reading most of the crap in this thread I must realize
that I´m in a wrong place after being here for 20 years.
Reading this thread made me realize that I am a purist,
a nerd, a fanatic, a Stones-Taliban.
I´m totally upset that M+K go on without Charlie, even if it
was for just one show.
I´m totally upset that they kneel down in front of insurances,
sponsors and contracts at this stage of their career. They make
their own rules. They are the Greatest Band in the World.
I´m totally upset that most of the people on IORR buy this excuse.
I´m totally upset that they don´t say “Fvck the contract. No Charlie,
no tour! What´s the fine?”
I´m totally upset that Charlie isn´t irreplaceable for most of
the people here.
I´m totally upset that the common sense on IORR is that
another drummer could replace him and add something to the
sound/setlist the day and the day after the news.
And this will go on. Treason.
I´m totally upset that even the webmaster of this site is
curious what the new one will do on Midnight Rambler.
I´m totally upset that some here are criticizing Charlies
drumming/style/tempo – in a band that is known for doing
so with any instrument, the singer included – for 60 @#$%&
years. It´s their trademark. Their DNA. Unbelievable bullshit.
I´m totally upset that I have to explain that to “soulbrothers
and soulsisters” on a Rolling Stones fansite.
Retired-dog said “Did you perform the same or a similar drama
when Bill left?”. Ass_hole. I wouldn´t tell you. Why posting
the answer on this site? Useless anyway. There´s just a handful
of people who feel the same as me. But that´s good to know.
I´ve seen the band 63 times (3 times with Bill), have achieved
anything I wanted. Some really important informations I got on
IORR. Thanks, bv. This was always a helpful community, but the
Charlie news “sorted the wheat from the chaff“. It will never
be the same, for the Stones and for this site. I couldn´t stand
the band touring without Charlie and reading enthusiastic posts
of how good Steve Jordan fit in.
Like what Keith once said to Bill German: "Forward, brother!"
bv, please delete my account. Thank you.
Rolling Stones forever.
Well, dang, that's a 1st world problem if ever I heard of one...................
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-08-09 13:24 by EddieByword.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
Topi
()
Date: August 9, 2021 13:24
Yeah. Too tough. 
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
makemeburnthecandle
()
Date: August 9, 2021 13:54
Amazes me how someone invokes the phrase “Stones-Taliban” to impress other mental midgets of their passion. Taliban happens to be a group that tortures and slaughters thousands of innocent people including women and children. Go on a hike in Afghanistan and show us how tough you really are.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
TheGreek
()
Date: August 9, 2021 13:59
No Charlie , No Stones period !
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
Rip This
()
Date: August 9, 2021 14:13
can't wait till 10.29...Tampa baby....epic seats....will be great
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
georgemcdonnell314
()
Date: August 9, 2021 14:52
I am surprised there is not an official statement on their website.
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