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dmay
Wow. This is pretty wonky stuff. Had no idea a particular phono cartridge could make or break a band's sound. I took it that the amplifier and speakers are what shapes your listening experience. Now, I have to consider if there is a replacement cartridge available for the 1960s era Magnavox hi-fi I crank up occasionally to play albums from my misspent youth.
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Re: best vintage turntable cartridges for listening to the stones new
Posted by: jbwelda ()
Date: July 29, 2021 06:54
The authentic Shure replacement styli were always the gold standard but they have not been available for decades. So the replacements would have to do but I doubt they come up to the same standard, maybe though. I currently have two V15 type IV that I retired a long time ago because of possibly imagined defects. Only the styli keep me from repressing them into service.
Shure cartridges have the reputation of a Toyota Land Cruiser: will go anywhere for a very long time without complaint if maybe not quite up to A1 on the speed/sound quality. They are the DJs universal choice but not of course the higher line versions, but they are respected for their durability and their ability to move the bass speakers without sounding harsh.
Sounds like you already know all that though.
jb
I hope they don't think we're a rock 'n' roll outfit
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Re: best vintage turntable cartridges for listening to the stones
Posted by: dmay ()
Date: July 29, 2021 18:01
Wow. This is pretty wonky stuff. Had no idea a particular phono cartridge could make or break a band's sound. I took it that the amplifier and speakers are what shapes your listening experience. Now, I have to consider if there is a replacement cartridge available for the 1960s era Magnavox hi-fi I crank up occasionally to play albums from my misspent youth.
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Re: best vintage turntable cartridges for listening to the stones
Posted by: Toru A ()
Date: July 29, 2021 07:39
Some rock musicians come to Japan just to buy these.
Koetsu
[www.koetsuaudio.com]
It's up to you if you feel these cartridge fit in with the Stones' music.
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Re: best vintage turntable cartridges for listening to the stones
Posted by: jbwelda ()
Date: August 1, 2021 02:24
Perhaps the most important thing about a cartridge and stylus is that they are gentle on your records, and probably require little more than one gram weight to track just about anything North of a warpy Jamaican 70s vintage Studio 1 pressing with minimal problem. Good sound is essential but some that emit good sound actually scrape away the groove ruining records forever even when the cart is set up properly and the stylus new or newish. It is the point of contact where the rubber meets the road and especially a worn or damaged stylus will trash your record collection in no time flat.
jb
I hope they don't think we're a rock 'n' roll outfit.
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Re: best vintage turntable cartridges for listening to the stones
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: August 1, 2021 01:40
Have a Sota Sapphire but only an
Avante cartridge at the moment ...
Avante not great but fair attack ....
Havent had a moving-coil for some time but maybe one day soon ...
ROCKMAN
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Re: best vintage turntable cartridges for listening to the stones
Posted by: jbwelda ()
Date: August 1, 2021 05:21
I would like a UK broadcast transcription spec Garrard myself. The ones with the big heavy base and the long tonearms (to reduce tracking error).
Right now have a pair of Technics SL 1210 Mk II, the DJs choice, but also have a Thorens and a couple of Duals lying around that I bought new. I hardly ever discard stereo or audio equipment and have built up a pretty modest pile of vintage stuff, tube amplifiers and pre-amps, mixing boards, speakers, tape decks, crossovers and other valuable junk.
Don't have a working cassette player though and kind of need one. Good but cheap, you know how it is. Anything Nakamichi under 200 bucks would be fine.
jb
I hope they don't think we're a rock 'n' roll outfit.
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Re: best vintage turntable cartridges for listening to the stones
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: August 1, 2021 07:01
I love burning money on vinyl and turntables and cartridges and stylus's.
I have 7, low end to mostly mid range turntables spread out throughout the house with Ortofon or Audio Technica cartridges. A couple of Pro Ject's, An Audio Technica, a Technics, a Sony, and I can't recall the other two but one is from the early 70's, cheap as hell looking, on a aluminum pedestal under a smoke coloured acrylic dome. Very cool looking but sounds like sh*t through the two cannon ball speakers.
The one thing that I really have enjoyed is getting the AT cartridge with the swappable stylus', as I bought one for 78 speed shellac records. I've been buying them for some time and have maybe 50. The music isn't always to my 'taste' but there's something about listening to a recording from over 100 years ago on your hifi.
The sound is startling, given how primitive the recordings are and how old and battered some are. Some of those early pressings are amazing. They look like crap but still play alright.
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Re: best vintage turntable cartridges for listening to the stones
Posted by: jbwelda ()
Date: August 1, 2021 05:21
I would like a UK broadcast transcription spec Garrard myself. The ones with the big heavy base and the long tonearms (to reduce tracking error).
Right now have a pair of Technics SL 1210 Mk II, the DJs choice, but also have a Thorens and a couple of Duals lying around that I bought new. I hardly ever discard stereo or audio equipment and have built up a pretty modest pile of vintage stuff, tube amplifiers and pre-amps, mixing boards, speakers, tape decks, crossovers and other valuable junk.
Don't have a working cassette player though and kind of need one. Good but cheap, you know how it is. Anything Nakamichi under 200 bucks would be fine.
jb
I hope they don't think we're a rock 'n' roll outfit.
i saw a nakamichi at goodwill about a month ago and not on the shelf but in someones cart i just missed it and for only $25 ahhh
i use a bunch of different cassette decks but my current favorite is this pioneer ct-f6161 from 1975 cool wacky tape loading mechanism and it weighs more then any deck i have ever seen and i mean by a long way it is very heavy
cleaned up the transport & pinch roller, replaced the belts, oiled the motor, replaced the old lube, changed all 5 fuses, and set the speed with the frequency counter program on my computer and it sounds great well worth the time and effort and it records well too
i would love to own one these tables just because it looks so cool and i have a thing for empireQuote
Re: best vintage turntable cartridges for listening to the stones
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: August 1, 2021 07:01
I love burning money on vinyl and turntables and cartridges and stylus's.
I have 7, low end to mostly mid range turntables spread out throughout the house with Ortofon or Audio Technica cartridges. A couple of Pro Ject's, An Audio Technica, a Technics, a Sony, and I can't recall the other two but one is from the early 70's, cheap as hell looking, on a aluminum pedestal under a smoke coloured acrylic dome. Very cool looking but sounds like sh*t through the two cannon ball speakers.
The one thing that I really have enjoyed is getting the AT cartridge with the swappable stylus', as I bought one for 78 speed shellac records. I've been buying them for some time and have maybe 50. The music isn't always to my 'taste' but there's something about listening to a recording from over 100 years ago on your hifi.
The sound is startling, given how primitive the recordings are and how old and battered some are. Some of those early pressings are amazing. They look like crap but still play alright.
are these like what your talking about treaclefingers cause wow looks like something you'd see in clockwork orange
i also love 78's i was given 5 milk crates full of country 78's from a women who collected them with her mother in oaklhoma in the 20's-40's and have nothing to play them on but a old 50's admiral hifi tracks at like 10 grams but considering that phonographs from the 20's and 30's could track at 100's of grams i don't think its to rough on them need to get me a turntable capable of 78rpm and one of those moving magnet 78 carts some day though
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ProfessorWolf
its called standard mount i believe
but what table do you use with a stadard mount that plays at 78 rpm thats not an easy find i think you have to use tables from the 50's-60's or modify a modern table to get the right playback speed
also getting back to the vintage cart aspect sort of i know several manufactures other then audio technica offered 78 stylus for there carts back in the 60's case in point shure had on for the m44 line the stylus was there n44-3
here is a pdf of a 1966 data sheet showing it we
i have a couple cylinders to with no way to play that i bought from a neighbour down the road at his yard sale he had a couple players too don't know how well they worked but one of them was electric with a speaker but he wanted to much for them