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Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: uz2bstoned ()
Date: November 9, 2005 10:19

Out of Control on this just cooks! The sound is fantastic and the crowd singing just makes it. I love putting this on in my car. In fact i love live albums in the car. Just takes you right to the concert atmosphere.

This is one of the best releases by the band in years I reckon. Anyone else think this version is a Classic? I think they will be blasting this on the radio in 30 years still. It is mean. The end rocks out!

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: Koschi ()
Date: November 9, 2005 10:49

It´s the version I have on my Ipod - it´s FANTASTIC!!!

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: November 9, 2005 11:13

Yes. One of the best performances I ever heard. It's unreal.

JumpingKentFlash

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: Wild Slivovitz ()
Date: November 9, 2005 14:06

Agree all the way. The song should constantly be in the setlist!

"got to be worked on
don't have no bark nor bite..."

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: November 9, 2005 14:46

Fantastic version of a terrific song - and its helps that its performed in front of the best Stones audience in the world

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Date: November 9, 2005 16:24

Was Mick in the cage for this recording? Ha Ha

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: RobertJohnson ()
Date: November 9, 2005 17:10

Great song, but some passages were cut out on the "No Security" version. I remember that it was about two or three minutes longer on this tour. Heard it four or five times during this tour in the Netherlands and Germany.

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: Rev. Robert W. ()
Date: November 9, 2005 17:33

Robert J.--

"Out Of Control" was cut, wasn't it?

It always seemed to me that the "No Security" version was lacking in either trumpet parts or, worse, in Jagger's harp playing. A pity, because at the thirteen shows I attended during the tour, people who didn't even know the song were asking "what the hell was THAT?!"

Does anyone know if the "Don Was Live Re-Mix" on the single offered a more complete recording of the song?

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: RobertJohnson ()
Date: November 10, 2005 00:18

Rev. Robert W. Wrote:
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> Robert J.--
>
> "Out Of Control" was cut, wasn't it?
>
> It always seemed to me that the "No Security"
> version was lacking in either trumpet parts or,
> worse, in Jagger's harp playing. A pity, because
> at the thirteen shows I attended during the tour,
> people who didn't even know the song were asking
> "what the hell was THAT?!"
>
> Does anyone know if the "Don Was Live Re-Mix" on
> the single offered a more complete recording of
> the song?

Interesting point, don't know that there is a remix of Don Was of the live take. Hope that it isn't a f** overdub disco bum bum bum bum remix ...


Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: November 10, 2005 00:28

Splattered, All Over Manhattan Wrote:
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> Was Mick in the cage for this recording? Ha Ha


The cage was only used twice to my knowledge - the first two shows of the NS tour, which came well after the '98 recording that was used for the NS album.

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: chippy ()
Date: November 10, 2005 00:34

my fav is the rio 4-11-98 version ,, boot by good sister,, woodys solo imo ,,best ever 4 this number ,,

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: backstreetboy ()
Date: November 10, 2005 01:46

it is an amazing recording,one of the best if not the best version of any live song ever.

john scialfa

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: November 10, 2005 02:23

chippy Wrote:
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> my fav is the rio 4-11-98 version ,, boot by good
> sister,, woodys solo imo ,,best ever 4 this number
> ,,


Check out the one from the Edmonton soundboard, and Rio may have a serious rival...!

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: deuce ()
Date: November 10, 2005 02:25

I love the St. Louis '97 version

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: stonestom ()
Date: November 10, 2005 02:39

I love blasting the No Security in my car. Even first time stones listeners think the songs rocks. The harmonica just blasting loud in the car freaking gives me chills everytime. Just takes a while to get into it but thats kinda the point. Hail to the Stones!!! Tom

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: November 10, 2005 06:14

Great song. They should drop one of the warhorses for this one. Other than a few of the songs on ABB, this is the strongest song tune they have put out since 1981. Beats the hell out of You Got Me Rocking which has been played to death in concert. It's a good song, but most people are sick of it now so give it a rest!

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: uz2bstoned ()
Date: November 10, 2005 10:01

Yeah it is such a good song. Glad others agree with me! I think it could be a great song early in the set. Maybe even an opener? I mean sure not everyone has heard it, but it is just rockin! Don't think it is as good at the end of the set. I love this version of the song. I don't even like the B2B song. Is it the same song? I mean it is just not there.

Speaking of No Security, I love the sound on it, but I think it is not a very good song selection on the album. Whereas Live licks has more songs I like. How does the sound compare? I have not heard it yet. Is it of a simular mix? I have watched Fourty licks thru a stereo and too me the sound is not as good as the No security or Stripped albums. I love these albums! Fourty licks has tooo much brass and piano. Is live licks mixed better?

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: BOBM ()
Date: November 10, 2005 11:21

I agree it's a great song, although a shorter live version without the extended guitar solo near the end would have been better. I can't pinpoint why, but when I saw it live three times in 1997 I thought it really cooked. When I saw it live twice in 1999 I thought it was less impressive. When I saw it live twice in 2005 it was less impressive still. It was a clear highlight of the Bridges tour; on the No Security tour it struck me as a time filler after the Keith set. In 2005 (Hartford and Durham) the song seemed strangely out of place to me, like "why did they pick this one"?

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: René ()
Date: November 10, 2005 12:25

Well, the version on No Security is fantastic indeed, but the Don Was Live Remix is even better IMO. They mixed the audience screaming out, so you only hear the band playing the song live, it's really great!


Out Of Control (Live - No Security Version)
(Mick Jagger / Keith Richards – 6.58)

“Bridges To Babylon World Tour ‘97/’98/’99”:
Estadio River Plate Stadium, Buenos Aires, Argentina, April 4, 1998

Mick Jagger - lead vocals, harmonica
Keith Richards - electric guitar, backing vocals
Charlie Watts - drums
Ron Wood - electric wah-wah guitar
Darryl Jones - bass
Chuck Leavell - keyboards
Kent Smith - trumpet
Blondie Chaplin - percussion, backing vocals
Bernard Fowler - percussion, backing vocals

Produced by The Glimmer Twins

Originally first released on:
The Rolling Stones – “No Security” CD
(Virgin / Toshiba-EMI VJCP 25426) Japan, October 21, 1998


Out Of Control (Live - Don Was Live Remix)
(Mick Jagger / Keith Richards – 6.53)

“Bridges To Babylon World Tour ‘97/’98/’99”:
Madison Square Garden, New York City, New York, US, January 16, 1998

Mick Jagger - lead vocals, harmonica
Keith Richards - electric guitar, backing vocals
Charlie Watts - drums
Ron Wood - electric wah-wah guitar
Darryl Jones - bass
Chuck Leavell - keyboards
Kent Smith - trumpet
Blondie Chaplin - percussion, backing vocals
Bernard Fowler - percussion, backing vocals

Produced by The Glimmer Twins & Don Was

Originally first released on:
The Rolling Stones – “Out Of Control” promo CD single
(Virgin Records DPRO 13159) US, July 1998

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: René ()
Date: November 10, 2005 12:52

+ Jimmy Starbuck on shaker

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: November 10, 2005 12:54

uz2bstoned Wrote:
.
>
> Speaking of No Security, I love the sound on it,
> but I think it is not a very good song selection
> on the album. Whereas Live licks has more songs I
> like.

the whole point of No Security was to release an album filled with songs that hadnt been on any other live records in the last couple of decades

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: uz2bstoned ()
Date: November 11, 2005 09:51

Gazza wrote...

the whole point of No Security was to release an album filled with songs that hadnt been on any other live records in the last couple of decades


....Yeah i did realise that Gazza. I like the sound of No security. I would love to hear other stuff recorded that well. Midnight rambler, SFTD. I love the B2B Satisfaction (St Louis) too. Is there a Bootleg of No Security/B2B outakes that did not make the album? I know they recorded everything from B2B tour and just choose mainly rarites. All these other recordings must out there. In circulation?

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: November 11, 2005 12:02

uz2bstoned Wrote:
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I know they recorded
> everything from B2B tour

I read that from 1989 onwards they have recorded all shows with both picture and sound. Some guy in Belgium has all of them. He's holding onto them for the Stones. Now that's a place I'd like to rob.

JumpingKentFlash

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: November 11, 2005 12:11

uz2bstoned Wrote:
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>> ....Yeah i did realise that Gazza. I like the
> sound of No security. I would love to hear other
> stuff recorded that well. Midnight rambler, SFTD.
> I love the B2B Satisfaction (St Louis) too. Is
> there a Bootleg of No Security/B2B outakes that
> did not make the album?


sadly not

I know they recorded
> everything from B2B tour and just choose mainly
> rarites. All these other recordings must out
> there. In circulation?


well - yes and no.

There isnt specifically a circulating recording of songs that were shortlisted, edited,overdubbed, mixed etc and then left off the album

However, some of the shows used for that album were broadcast on TV (St Louis, MTV's "10 Spot") so they'd exist in that form

I personally think they had a good idea long in advance what songs were going to be on it, because when I was in Paris for the show there (25th July 1998) I was told at the time that Keith had spent most of that week (they had 4 days off following the previous show in Spain) in the studio working on overdubs, mixes and edits on songs for the upcoming live album - and that the recordings he was working on were taken from shows in St Louis, Nuremburg, Amsterdam, the 10 Spot show etc. So even at that stage it seemed they would have shortlisted what songs they were going to use.

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: canadian.sway ()
Date: November 11, 2005 14:49

anyone have a killer mp3 of out of control to toss up here?

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Date: November 11, 2005 15:01

T&A Wrote:
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> Splattered, All Over Manhattan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Was Mick in the cage for this recording? Ha
> Ha
>
>
> The cage was only used twice to my knowledge - the
> first two shows of the NS tour, which came well
> after the '98 recording that was used for the NS
> album.


The cage was in use during the 3rd show of NS in Denver, however it was probably eliminated shortly thereafter as it was not present during the 2nd Anaheim show, the 7th of the NS tour.

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: November 11, 2005 15:10

I think Denver was the last show where they used the cage

Re: Out of Control on No Security
Posted by: virgil ()
Date: November 11, 2005 16:25

deuce Wrote:
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> I love the St. Louis '97 version


Deuce,

I was just going to post the same thing until I read yours. I recorded it Live off the radio that night the sound and the whole version is the best I have heard. Definitely much better than the No Security version.



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