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I don't hear Taylor on Brown Sugar?
Well, according to is just that. It's Keith from the sound of it. It's obvious.
Not a dumb question at all.
I think there are basically two ways - either (obviously) you have the separate tracks available, and this has been the case for some songs on youtube because the separate tracks were available in games like Rock Band. I believe Gimme Shelter and a couple of other famous Stones tracks have been posted like this on youtube before.
Obviously, even with separate tracks there can be some bleed from other instruments that appeared during the recording if they were recorded in the same room.
The other way is to actually separate the sounds in the released version, by using frequency cancellation techniques in an audio editing program. This can be done really effectively if you have an instrument solo at some point in the song; and then select that part and use it as a blueprint for removing it and so on. But obviously this can't be done with all instruments, so I guess you'd use some frequency analysis functions.
Anyway, the tracks from Parachute Wyman on youtube discussed in this thread don't sound like they were separate to begin with.
You can hear Keith's second electric guitar + some hints of Keith's acoustic guitar.
It's the same second guitar as on the studio version: Keith playing Berry-licks.
The version with Taylor on guitar featured Taylor playing counter-licks on the instrumental bridges (the same chord pattern that Bobby solos on). Keith's second electric guitar track does counter-licks on the choruses.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-04-27 13:25 by DandelionPowderman.
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Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
thomashanck
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Date: April 23, 2021 17:44
Hi,
interesting to follow keith' playing
(all the others too),
never heard it this way ...
[www.youtube.com]
interesting to follow keith' playing
(all the others too),
never heard it this way ...
[www.youtube.com]
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
TheflyingDutchman
()
Date: April 23, 2021 17:53
Thanks.The perfection lays in the imperfection
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-04-23 17:53 by TheflyingDutchman.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-04-23 17:53 by TheflyingDutchman.
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: April 23, 2021 19:09
Nice - listening to Taylors solo makes me think of the excellence that lies beyond the fadeout on Sway, but guess they could only squeeze so much virtuosity in to a single vinyl
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Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: April 23, 2021 23:35
Quote
TheflyingDutchman
Thanks.The perfection lays in the imperfection
It usually does
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
spikenyc
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Date: April 24, 2021 00:13
This is great!
thx
thx
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
TravelinMan
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Date: April 24, 2021 03:20
Just now listening. Taylor has a really cool half step walk down I’ve never noticed in the song
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
ChrisM42
()
Date: April 24, 2021 04:31
Chuck Berry double stops in Open G with the dirtiest tone you can imagine.
How great is that!
How great is that!
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
floodonthepage
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Date: April 24, 2021 05:19
Holy Hell! That last section (the guitar arrangements) that first dirty bit!!!!
I also went down the YouTube rabbit hole and listened to the iso tracks for Brown Sugar and Moonlight Mile.
Happy 50th, Sticky Fingers!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-04-24 05:49 by floodonthepage.
I also went down the YouTube rabbit hole and listened to the iso tracks for Brown Sugar and Moonlight Mile.
Happy 50th, Sticky Fingers!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-04-24 05:49 by floodonthepage.
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
tatters
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Date: April 24, 2021 13:49
The bit that begins at 38:30 isn't Keith. It's from some Guitar Hero or Rock Band video game or something like that. It smokes, but it ain't Keith.
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
TheflyingDutchman
()
Date: April 24, 2021 22:26
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-04-24 22:31 by TheflyingDutchman.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-04-24 22:31 by TheflyingDutchman.
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
TheflyingDutchman
()
Date: April 24, 2021 22:30
Quote
TheflyingDutchmanQuote
TravelinMan
Just now listening. Taylor has a really cool half step walk down I’ve never noticed in the song
Yup, well heard.He should have gone a step further in that alteration .
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
keefgotsoul
()
Date: April 25, 2021 08:19
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how are people able to isolate these specific tracks? Love listening to them!
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
riffcliche69
()
Date: April 25, 2021 08:23
You are so right. Keith is tuned to G, but he’s playing a fifth below in C, then Taylor comes in with a ii7 (Dm7)
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
peoplewitheyes
()
Date: April 25, 2021 12:00
[www.youtube.com]
this is Brown Sugar - not as clean, with a lot more bleed, than CYHMK - but the ragged harmonies sound just fantastic.
Here is the full list of isolated tracks songs
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-04-25 12:45 by peoplewitheyes.
this is Brown Sugar - not as clean, with a lot more bleed, than CYHMK - but the ragged harmonies sound just fantastic.
Here is the full list of isolated tracks songs
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-04-25 12:45 by peoplewitheyes.
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
Taylor1
()
Date: April 25, 2021 14:00
On the Deconstructed Brown Sugar you can clearly hear Taylor’s guitar.And his guitar on Satisfaction is great
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
peoplewitheyes
()
Date: April 25, 2021 15:31
Oh to hear more of these - particularly Tumbling Dice
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
TheflyingDutchman
()
Date: April 25, 2021 23:33
Quote
Taylor1
On the Deconstructed Brown Sugar you can clearly hear Taylor’s guitar.And his guitar on Satisfaction is great
I don't hear Taylor on Brown Sugar?
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
Taylor1
()
Date: April 26, 2021 01:53
According to Parachute Wyman ,Taylor plays the guitar along with the acoustic by Keith and saxophone on the second playing of Brown Sugar which begins at3:56 on this Deconstructed Brown Sugar.That is not Keith on the electric.
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: April 26, 2021 01:55
Parachute Wyman?
lol...clever...never heard of her...
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
lol...clever...never heard of her...
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
Taylor1
()
Date: April 26, 2021 02:41
Isn’t he the person posting these Deconstructions
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: April 26, 2021 03:01
Ah...yes it is.
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
Taylor1
()
Date: April 27, 2021 04:18
Brian’s greatmellotron on the Deconstructed Stray Cat Blues can be heard more clearly
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: April 27, 2021 06:53
Quote
Taylor1
According to Parachute Wyman ,Taylor plays the guitar along with the acoustic by Keith and saxophone on the second playing of Brown Sugar which begins at3:56 on this Deconstructed Brown Sugar.That is not Keith on the electric.
Well, according to is just that. It's Keith from the sound of it. It's obvious.
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
mrpaulincanada
()
Date: April 27, 2021 08:39
I assume that the creator of these isolated tracks is using a piece of software called Acoustica. It allows you to create stems from the final mixed tracks. It does a pretty good job but there are lots of acoustic artifacts...and of course your can't completely extract various instruments. The keyboard parts in most Stones songs are so buried that it's almost impossible to extract any piano/keyboard.
Acoustica
Acoustica
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
LieB
()
Date: April 27, 2021 09:20
Quote
keefgotsoul
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how are people able to isolate these specific tracks? Love listening to them!
Not a dumb question at all.
I think there are basically two ways - either (obviously) you have the separate tracks available, and this has been the case for some songs on youtube because the separate tracks were available in games like Rock Band. I believe Gimme Shelter and a couple of other famous Stones tracks have been posted like this on youtube before.
Obviously, even with separate tracks there can be some bleed from other instruments that appeared during the recording if they were recorded in the same room.
The other way is to actually separate the sounds in the released version, by using frequency cancellation techniques in an audio editing program. This can be done really effectively if you have an instrument solo at some point in the song; and then select that part and use it as a blueprint for removing it and so on. But obviously this can't be done with all instruments, so I guess you'd use some frequency analysis functions.
Anyway, the tracks from Parachute Wyman on youtube discussed in this thread don't sound like they were separate to begin with.
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: April 27, 2021 09:58
Quote
Taylor1
On the Deconstructed Brown Sugar you can clearly hear Taylor’s guitar.And his guitar on Satisfaction is great
You can hear Keith's second electric guitar + some hints of Keith's acoustic guitar.
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
Taylor1
()
Date: April 27, 2021 13:03
It does not sound to me like Keith.I’m not a guitar expert like a lot of you guys but comparing the second electric guitar to the alternate Brown Sugar you can find on YouTube with the Taylor solo at the end, there are similar note being played. Plus the album credits on the album when it was first released in 1971 saidit is Taylor.This has never been corrected by the Stones.Quote
GasLightStreetQuote
Taylor1
According to Parachute Wyman ,Taylor plays the guitar along with the acoustic by Keith and saxophone on the second playing of Brown Sugar which begins at3:56 on this Deconstructed Brown Sugar.That is not Keith on the electric.
Well, according to is just that. It's Keith from the sound of it. It's obvious.
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: April 27, 2021 13:24
Quote
Taylor1It does not sound to me like Keith.I’m not a guitar expert like a lot of you guys but comparing the second electric guitar to the alternate Brown Sugar you can find on YouTube with the Taylor solo at the end, there are similar note being played. Plus the album credits on the album when it was first released in 1971 saidit is Taylor.This has never been corrected by the Stones.Quote
GasLightStreetQuote
Taylor1
According to Parachute Wyman ,Taylor plays the guitar along with the acoustic by Keith and saxophone on the second playing of Brown Sugar which begins at3:56 on this Deconstructed Brown Sugar.That is not Keith on the electric.
Well, according to is just that. It's Keith from the sound of it. It's obvious.
It's the same second guitar as on the studio version: Keith playing Berry-licks.
The version with Taylor on guitar featured Taylor playing counter-licks on the instrumental bridges (the same chord pattern that Bobby solos on). Keith's second electric guitar track does counter-licks on the choruses.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-04-27 13:25 by DandelionPowderman.
Re: Can't You Hear Me Knocking - Isolated Tracks
Posted by:
Taylor1
()
Date: April 27, 2021 14:45
What about at 3:07 of the alternate Brown Sugar,Taylor plays something there similar to the guitar at the end of the official release
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