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Wow. That recently released version of Fast Talking doesn't really sound like Taylor for the most part. The solo still sounds like something Taylor would play but not as much as the older version.
I agree, it sounds very much like something Taylor would play, but I really think it is Keith. It is not as smooth and technical like Taylor would play, and some of the bends are out of tune, something I never heard Taylor play.
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Wow. That recently released version of Fast Talking doesn't really sound like Taylor for the most part. The solo still sounds like something Taylor would play but not as much as the older version.
I agree, it sounds very much like something Taylor would play, but I really think it is Keith. It is not as smooth and technical like Taylor would play, and some of the bends are out of tune, something I never heard Taylor play.
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Maybe Richards is playing through Taylor’s rig. It has that same Coloursound pedal Taylor used for other tracks on IORR.
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I’ve had some of the same thoughts here. The lead break has a sort of trademark feel to Taylor, but I don’t hear the vibrato. Would it be due to the fuzz effect? Same one he used on Can You Hear the Music? I’m not sure I remember vibrato on that one.
I also thought it could be a take where he was figuring out a part. Or it could be Richards.
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What you guys think the stones themselves think of this leak?
Are they shocked? Or they don't care.
I think the leak took away the opportunity to rework stuff for upcoming albums.
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Wow. That recently released version of Fast Talking doesn't really sound like Taylor for the most part. The solo still sounds like something Taylor would play but not as much as the older version.
I agree, it sounds very much like something Taylor would play, but I really think it is Keith. It is not as smooth and technical like Taylor would play, and some of the bends are out of tune, something I never heard Taylor play.
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Maybe Richards is playing through Taylor’s rig. It has that same Coloursound pedal Taylor used for other tracks on IORR.
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How do we KNOW (is it just wishful thinking?) that there are 2 more volumes of outtakes to come? After all, the COVER of the “official” release of the 3 CDs already available calls Cd1 VOL 1, cd2 is called Volume 2 and cd3 is called Volume 3. So, that’s 3 “Volumes”, no? Yet we talk of 3 volumes, so eagerly await 2 more sets.
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Wow. That recently released version of Fast Talking doesn't really sound like Taylor for the most part. The solo still sounds like something Taylor would play but not as much as the older version.
I agree, it sounds very much like something Taylor would play, but I really think it is Keith. It is not as smooth and technical like Taylor would play, and some of the bends are out of tune, something I never heard Taylor play.
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Maybe Richards is playing through Taylor’s rig. It has that same Coloursound pedal Taylor used for other tracks on IORR.
Which Colorsound pedal? He used a Wah/Fuzz on the 1973 tour, but I don't hear it on the IORR album. Most effects there are real leslie, and most of the chorus/phasing and octaver sounds are from the EMS Hi-Fly Synthesizer.
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Wow. That recently released version of Fast Talking doesn't really sound like Taylor for the most part. The solo still sounds like something Taylor would play but not as much as the older version.
I agree, it sounds very much like something Taylor would play, but I really think it is Keith. It is not as smooth and technical like Taylor would play, and some of the bends are out of tune, something I never heard Taylor play.
Mathijs
Maybe Richards is playing through Taylor’s rig. It has that same Coloursound pedal Taylor used for other tracks on IORR.
Which Colorsound pedal? He used a Wah/Fuzz on the 1973 tour, but I don't hear it on the IORR album. Most effects there are real leslie, and most of the chorus/phasing and octaver sounds are from the EMS Hi-Fly Synthesizer.
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Info comes from an article about the ‘73 Euro Tour. Taylor had a Octivider and a Sustain by Colorsound. The Sustain is like an overdrive pedal and not the Supa Sustain, which is a compressor. Although he might have used these live and not in studio.
There is a distinct fuzz he used on Hear the Music and other tunes from that era. Could be the Hi-Fly
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Wow. That recently released version of Fast Talking doesn't really sound like Taylor for the most part. The solo still sounds like something Taylor would play but not as much as the older version.
I agree, it sounds very much like something Taylor would play, but I really think it is Keith. It is not as smooth and technical like Taylor would play, and some of the bends are out of tune, something I never heard Taylor play.
Mathijs
Maybe Richards is playing through Taylor’s rig. It has that same Coloursound pedal Taylor used for other tracks on IORR.
Which Colorsound pedal? He used a Wah/Fuzz on the 1973 tour, but I don't hear it on the IORR album. Most effects there are real leslie, and most of the chorus/phasing and octaver sounds are from the EMS Hi-Fly Synthesizer.
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Info comes from an article about the ‘73 Euro Tour. Taylor had a Octivider and a Sustain by Colorsound. The Sustain is like an overdrive pedal and not the Supa Sustain, which is a compressor. Although he might have used these live and not in studio.
There is a distinct fuzz he used on Hear the Music and other tunes from that era. Could be the Hi-Fly
I doubt he used those pedals on stage in 1973, at least I don't hear them and I have never seen a picture of these on stage. If I recall correctly he had these during the Tubular Bells sessions.
He did use a Colorsound Fuzz/Wah for sure on the 1973 Euro tour. The deep, throaty 'woman' tone on Gimme Shelter and Heartbreaker from London 9/9/73 is this pedal for sure, and he sometimes engaged the fuzz for the frantic ending of SFM.
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Wow. That recently released version of Fast Talking doesn't really sound like Taylor for the most part. The solo still sounds like something Taylor would play but not as much as the older version.
I agree, it sounds very much like something Taylor would play, but I really think it is Keith. It is not as smooth and technical like Taylor would play, and some of the bends are out of tune, something I never heard Taylor play.
Mathijs
Maybe Richards is playing through Taylor’s rig. It has that same Coloursound pedal Taylor used for other tracks on IORR.
Which Colorsound pedal? He used a Wah/Fuzz on the 1973 tour, but I don't hear it on the IORR album. Most effects there are real leslie, and most of the chorus/phasing and octaver sounds are from the EMS Hi-Fly Synthesizer.
Mathijs
Info comes from an article about the ‘73 Euro Tour. Taylor had a Octivider and a Sustain by Colorsound. The Sustain is like an overdrive pedal and not the Supa Sustain, which is a compressor. Although he might have used these live and not in studio.
There is a distinct fuzz he used on Hear the Music and other tunes from that era. Could be the Hi-Fly
I doubt he used those pedals on stage in 1973, at least I don't hear them and I have never seen a picture of these on stage. If I recall correctly he had these during the Tubular Bells sessions.
He did use a Colorsound Fuzz/Wah for sure on the 1973 Euro tour. The deep, throaty 'woman' tone on Gimme Shelter and Heartbreaker from London 9/9/73 is this pedal for sure, and he sometimes engaged the fuzz for the frantic ending of SFM.
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This comes from an interview done during their rehearsals. So he probably didn’t use them on tour if we can’t hear them, although the Sustainer can sound like just an overdrive.
“Mick Taylor has three pedals on the floor: Sustainer, Octivider, and Wa-Wa Pedal.”
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Wow. That recently released version of Fast Talking doesn't really sound like Taylor for the most part. The solo still sounds like something Taylor would play but not as much as the older version.
I agree, it sounds very much like something Taylor would play, but I really think it is Keith. It is not as smooth and technical like Taylor would play, and some of the bends are out of tune, something I never heard Taylor play.
Mathijs
Maybe Richards is playing through Taylor’s rig. It has that same Coloursound pedal Taylor used for other tracks on IORR.
Which Colorsound pedal? He used a Wah/Fuzz on the 1973 tour, but I don't hear it on the IORR album. Most effects there are real leslie, and most of the chorus/phasing and octaver sounds are from the EMS Hi-Fly Synthesizer.
Mathijs
Info comes from an article about the ‘73 Euro Tour. Taylor had a Octivider and a Sustain by Colorsound. The Sustain is like an overdrive pedal and not the Supa Sustain, which is a compressor. Although he might have used these live and not in studio.
There is a distinct fuzz he used on Hear the Music and other tunes from that era. Could be the Hi-Fly
I doubt he used those pedals on stage in 1973, at least I don't hear them and I have never seen a picture of these on stage. If I recall correctly he had these during the Tubular Bells sessions.
He did use a Colorsound Fuzz/Wah for sure on the 1973 Euro tour. The deep, throaty 'woman' tone on Gimme Shelter and Heartbreaker from London 9/9/73 is this pedal for sure, and he sometimes engaged the fuzz for the frantic ending of SFM.
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This comes from an interview done during their rehearsals. So he probably didn’t use them on tour if we can’t hear them, although the Sustainer can sound like just an overdrive.
“Mick Taylor has three pedals on the floor: Sustainer, Octivider, and Wa-Wa Pedal.”
Here's Taylor in the studio, with a Colorsound Sustain Module, a Vox Wah, a Copycat Tape Delay and a Colorsound Wah Fuzz. I don't recognize the black pedal behind him.
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Is that in Germany?
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Probably chuffed..honored and laughin' ta have Stones
stuff part of one of thee greatest drops of all time ....
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Agree, Hairball, Can't Find Love is just great. Has kind of Think I'm Going Mad simple groove about it, Mick is on top form, and the piano playing is subtle and beautiful. Who plays piano there?
I put together all of the '82 tracks from FFSO, called it Wasted Opportunity, and Ilove it. Would've made such a great, soulful collection - with Dreams I Can Remember, and the sensational Still in Love.
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Is that in Germany?
"English guitarist Mick Taylor at Advision Studios, London, during the recording of jazz flautist Herbie Mann's album 'London Underground', 5th November 1973." (Photo by Michael Putland) - [www.GettyImages.com] .
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Agree, Hairball, Can't Find Love is just great. Has kind of Think I'm Going Mad simple groove about it, Mick is on top form, and the piano playing is subtle and beautiful. Who plays piano there?
I put together all of the '82 tracks from FFSO, called it Wasted Opportunity, and Ilove it. Would've made such a great, soulful collection - with Dreams I Can Remember, and the sensational Still in Love.
Yeah peoplewitheyes, was also going to ask for credits on that track...
Another semi-nice one on CD#2 is Dream About...at least part of it...the opening bass comes thumping in synched nicely w/drums...w/some nice little funk licks on guitar...Mick sounds a bit like Sly...
But then it takes this odd detour at the one minute mark, and starts getting a bit weirder and weirder...in a bad way, and unfortunately starts sounding more and more like a terrible Mick solo tune at the 1:30 mark...
Thankfully it then drops back to the opening bass and drum groove, but it might be too little too late...not sure if the tune can be saved.. I have mixed emotions, and would like it more if all the crappiness was edited out.