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RisingStone
Cheap Trick At Budokan not only elevated the group to stardom but also made the Budokan world famous and one of the most celebrated, iconic rock venues of all. However, the bulk of this album is actually from the Koseinenkin Kaikan (a 2,400 seater), Osaka, April 27, 1978, the previous date to the Budokan shows (April 28 and 30). The story goes that the producer found the tapes recorded at the Budokan unusable for the most part for some technical reason therefore opted for the Osaka recording, supposedly prepared for the backup. It has been no secret from the day it was released, but my general impression is that both record company and journalists have deliberately avoided mentioning this fact as much as possible to this day, presumably to keep the prestige that is attached to the album and the venue. I have never come across a track-by-track recording credit (the date and the venue on each track) anywhere, even in an “in-depth” feature of the album in a music magazine. Ever.
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hockenheim95
Only some songs from ACDC's Live at Donnington Blu Ray are actually from Donnington. Most audio parts are from other concerts synced to the Donnington Video.
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hockenheim95
Only some songs from ACDC's Live at Donnington Blu Ray are actually from Donnington. Most audio parts are from other concerts synced to the Donnington Video.
Ive had the dvd for years. AC/DC in their prime
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hockenheim95
Only some songs from ACDC's Live at Donnington Blu Ray are actually from Donnington. Most audio parts are from other concerts synced to the Donnington Video.
Ive had the dvd for years. AC/DC in their prime
Bought the VHS when it came out. If I recall, when it came time to put out a blu ray the audio was either lost or not good quality? Just shows how precise AC/DC play if they could dub audio from another show onto the Donnington video.
Awesome concert but I wish they didn't play the songs so fast during that tour! Kind of like Stones did in 81. Chris Slade is an excellent drummer but I prefer Phil Rudd.
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jbwelda
Get Yer Ya Yas Out had at least one track (Love in Vain?) recorded elsewhere than MSG.
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RollingFreak
Wouldn't Cheap Trick be easy to prove? They've re-released that Budokan album in expanded forms many different times. Wouldn't it be clear if those were different performances than the original record? Or is the purported "complete" Budokan shows also from this other concert and just using the venue name because its known?
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Elmo Lewis
Frampton Comes Alive
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jbwelda
Got Live If You Want It contained studio tracks with phony audience overdubbed.
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Frampton Comes Alive
The details?
Even how much is done is debatable. Honestly, I think KISS Alive is a good example. Its basically all a studio creation but it works. That WAS what a KISS show sounded like at the time, and there wasn't a way to truly capture that live. You had to enhance it and basically create it, but its true of what their shows sounded like even if it wasn't recorded live at one of their shows. I never held that against them, although I thought lying about it for so long was dumb, and it didn't work nearly as well on Alive II. But having what we have in Alive is truly better than any truly live recording could have offered.Quote
RisingStone
I think the studio tweaking, i.e. amending bum notes, filling sound drops, overdub of some instruments, retaking vocals etc, is tolerated to some degree, sometimes necessary, considering the nature of live recording where the unexpected and undesirable are prone to happen. What matters is how much it is done.
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RollingFreak
Kiss Alive is completely manufactured in the studio.
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Kiss Alive is completely manufactured in the studio.
Wasn't that side 3 and 4 of Alive II?
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ds1984
Eurythmics Live 1983 - 1989.
More or less overdubbed live but some recording location and or date wrong.
For example, "The Miracle of Love" is incorrectly credited as recorded in Paris, September 1989, though :[*] "The Miracle of Love" was not part of the 1989 setlist
[*] they did not play in Paris in September
Actually recorded in Sydney, Australia on 14 February 1987.