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Vaccinated Calif. man gets breakthrough COVID case after trip to Las Vegas, spreads to family
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Fruit, who has a history of sinus infections, was sick in bed. "I had never felt pain that bad in my head in my life. With my medical history, I'm pretty confident that if I hadn't had the boost from the vaccination, I might not be standing here talking to you right now," he said.
Except that he got sick because he trusted the vaccine to keep him safe. Had he not been vaccinated, he wouldn't have gone to Vegas, wouldn't have taken off the mask, and wouldn't have gotten himself and his family sick.
True. Some people are 'whatever' having been vaxxed.
But.
Had he not gotten vaxxed... can you pinpoint this as for all? No. But. Time will tell if that happens.
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Vaccinated Calif. man gets breakthrough COVID case after trip to Las Vegas, spreads to family
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Fruit, who has a history of sinus infections, was sick in bed. "I had never felt pain that bad in my head in my life. With my medical history, I'm pretty confident that if I hadn't had the boost from the vaccination, I might not be standing here talking to you right now," he said.
Except that he got sick because he trusted the vaccine to keep him safe. Had he not been vaccinated, he wouldn't have gone to Vegas, wouldn't have taken off the mask, and wouldn't have gotten himself and his family sick.
True. Some people are 'whatever' having been vaxxed.
But.
Had he not gotten vaxxed... can you pinpoint this as for all? No. But. Time will tell if that happens.
Getting the vaccine doesn't guarantee you won't die of COVID-19. No one has ever said that. It's like saying 'wear a seatbelt' an you won't die in a car accident.
It's risk mitigation.
And risk is incredibly mitigated for a bad outcome for the virus. Most people will be not get the virus, some will be asymptomatic, some will get mildly sick, and very few would die.
You see the stats right now in the US, where over 99% of deaths now, are from the unvaccinated.
What I don't understand is why this simple concept is so difficult to understand for such a large minority of people.
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Vaccinated Calif. man gets breakthrough COVID case after trip to Las Vegas, spreads to family
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Fruit, who has a history of sinus infections, was sick in bed. "I had never felt pain that bad in my head in my life. With my medical history, I'm pretty confident that if I hadn't had the boost from the vaccination, I might not be standing here talking to you right now," he said.
Except that he got sick because he trusted the vaccine to keep him safe. Had he not been vaccinated, he wouldn't have gone to Vegas, wouldn't have taken off the mask, and wouldn't have gotten himself and his family sick.
True. Some people are 'whatever' having been vaxxed.
But.
Had he not gotten vaxxed... can you pinpoint this as for all? No. But. Time will tell if that happens.
Getting the vaccine doesn't guarantee you won't die of COVID-19. No one has ever said that. It's like saying 'wear a seatbelt' an you won't die in a car accident.
It's risk mitigation.
And risk is incredibly mitigated for a bad outcome for the virus. Most people will be not get the virus, some will be asymptomatic, some will get mildly sick, and very few would die.
You see the stats right now in the US, where over 99% of deaths now, are from the unvaccinated.
What I don't understand is why this simple concept is so difficult to understand for such a large minority of people.
Are you from the southern United States or live there?
I know people that won't get a vaccine because it's "not FDA approved." That's astounding in its stupidity. But they are not my life. And not all of them are fake president believers.
I'm on a steroid, for the second time in a month, to clear up an inner ear infection I've had since early June. I know steroids, especially what I am taking, are not good for me, somewhat based on experience. Given the long term issues I could face, with and without, and knowing that the duration of steroid I am taking - it's beyond worth the risk.
The very near future will be interesting.
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Vaccinated Calif. man gets breakthrough COVID case after trip to Las Vegas, spreads to family
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Fruit, who has a history of sinus infections, was sick in bed. "I had never felt pain that bad in my head in my life. With my medical history, I'm pretty confident that if I hadn't had the boost from the vaccination, I might not be standing here talking to you right now," he said.
Except that he got sick because he trusted the vaccine to keep him safe. Had he not been vaccinated, he wouldn't have gone to Vegas, wouldn't have taken off the mask, and wouldn't have gotten himself and his family sick.
True. Some people are 'whatever' having been vaxxed.
But.
Had he not gotten vaxxed... can you pinpoint this as for all? No. But. Time will tell if that happens.
Getting the vaccine doesn't guarantee you won't die of COVID-19. No one has ever said that. It's like saying 'wear a seatbelt' an you won't die in a car accident.
It's risk mitigation.
And risk is incredibly mitigated for a bad outcome for the virus. Most people will be not get the virus, some will be asymptomatic, some will get mildly sick, and very few would die.
You see the stats right now in the US, where over 99% of deaths now, are from the unvaccinated.
What I don't understand is why this simple concept is so difficult to understand for such a large minority of people.
Are you from the southern United States or live there?
I know people that won't get a vaccine because it's "not FDA approved." That's astounding in its stupidity. But they are not my life. And not all of them are fake president believers.
I'm on a steroid, for the second time in a month, to clear up an inner ear infection I've had since early June. I know steroids, especially what I am taking, are not good for me, somewhat based on experience. Given the long term issues I could face, with and without, and knowing that the duration of steroid I am taking - it's beyond worth the risk.
The very near future will be interesting.
...and once it's "FDA approved", I wonder if there'll be a rush of people getting vaccinated?
Likely not. They're just using it as the excuse d'jour and will come up with some deep state conspiracy that had the vaccine approved without proper protocols.
And I do believe your question was rhetorical...but no, not from the southern US!
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It's really sad the subset of people who refuse to get vaccinated. One of the my oldest, dearest friends is one of those, and so is his wife. Yes, they support the former President. I guess you can get them to believe anything, as long as it's what they wanted to hear to begin with.
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Delta variant will be interesting. Although it's nothing new, it's really bringing out the liars.
it will be... interesting. Look to mid-September/early October.
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UK now back up to over 50,000 daily cases for the 1st time since January. 4,000 in Hospital and growing. This is not over unfortunately.
[www.bbc.co.uk]
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UK now back up to over 50,000 daily cases for the 1st time since January. 4,000 in Hospital and growing. This is not over unfortunately.
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Damn....it's not getting any better here in the states either - in fact it's going from bad to worse.
Covid-19 cases are rising in all 50 states for the first time since January, data shows
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For the first time since early January, Covid-19 cases are rising in all 50 states, according to a CNN analysis of data from Johns Hopkins University (JHU). The United States recorded an average of 26,448 new Covid-19 cases each day over the past week – up 67% from the week before. Among states, the week-over-week change ranged from a 5% increase in Montana to more than a 100% increase – or doubling – in Vermont (155%), Alabama (142%), Michigan (137%), Massachusetts (127%), Kentucky (120%) and Iowa (113%). The last time new cases increased over than the week before in all 50 states was on Jan. 5 – just a few days before the US reached its peak of more than 251,000 new cases each day, JHU data shows. At that time, only about 5 million people had received at least one dose of Covid-19 vaccine, and less than 1 million people were fully vaccinated, according to data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Now, Covid-19 case rates are highest in states that have lower vaccination rates. Among states that have fully vaccinated less than half of their residents, the average Covid-19 case rate was 11 new cases per 100,000 people last week. But among stats that have fully vaccinated more than half of their residents, the average case rate was four per 100,000 people.
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UK now back up to over 50,000 daily cases for the 1st time since January. 4,000 in Hospital and growing. This is not over unfortunately.
[www.bbc.co.uk]
Damn....it's not getting any better here in the states either - in fact it's going from bad to worse.
Covid-19 cases are rising in all 50 states for the first time since January, data shows
Coronavirus
For the first time since early January, Covid-19 cases are rising in all 50 states, according to a CNN analysis of data from Johns Hopkins University (JHU). The United States recorded an average of 26,448 new Covid-19 cases each day over the past week – up 67% from the week before. Among states, the week-over-week change ranged from a 5% increase in Montana to more than a 100% increase – or doubling – in Vermont (155%), Alabama (142%), Michigan (137%), Massachusetts (127%), Kentucky (120%) and Iowa (113%). The last time new cases increased over than the week before in all 50 states was on Jan. 5 – just a few days before the US reached its peak of more than 251,000 new cases each day, JHU data shows. At that time, only about 5 million people had received at least one dose of Covid-19 vaccine, and less than 1 million people were fully vaccinated, according to data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Now, Covid-19 case rates are highest in states that have lower vaccination rates. Among states that have fully vaccinated less than half of their residents, the average Covid-19 case rate was 11 new cases per 100,000 people last week. But among stats that have fully vaccinated more than half of their residents, the average case rate was four per 100,000 people.
Yep, in Europe the Dutch are competing with the British on which country scores the highest increase in infections. It looked like the Dutch were "winning" just a few days ago, but noooo today, as grzegorz67 mentioned, the UK knocked the Dutch back (percentage wise) with over 51 thousand leaving the Dutch with 11 thousand. Even the Russians (dreadful for quite a while) can't keep up with them.
And the politicians? They continue to appologise for yet another "misjudgement" ...
Thanks Hairball, for all the reports from the US. The latest data are indeed very worrying!
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The DELTA variant is a LOT more infectious. It travel fast among young people and kids. Even if 50% are vaccinated, the DELTA variant will spread like a wild fire among the rest of the non-vaccinated. In short, DELTA will slow any larger tours and crowds for a while.
Meanwhile, new variants will appear as most of the world is still not vaccinated. Africa, the Middle East, South America, East Europe, parts of Asia, are still very low on vaccination. Also, many with easy access of vaccine think they don't need it. You either get the vaccine, or covid-19, eventually.
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The DELTA variant is a LOT more infectious. It travel fast among young people and kids. Even if 50% are vaccinated, the DELTA variant will spread like a wild fire among the rest of the non-vaccinated. In short, DELTA will slow any larger tours and crowds for a while.
Meanwhile, new variants will appear as most of the world is still not vaccinated. Africa, the Middle East, South America, East Europe, parts of Asia, are still very low on vaccination. Also, many with easy access of vaccine think they don't need it. You either get the vaccine, or covid-19, eventually.
Well, there is the belief by some that vaccinations could be driving the variants (at least if I understand the below correctly):
There are four major risks associated with high numbers of infections. These are an increase in hospitalisations and deaths, more ‘Long-COVID’; workforce absences (including in the NHS); and the increased risk of new variants emerging. The combination of high prevalence and high levels of vaccination creates the conditions in which an immune escape variant is most likely to emerge. The likelihood of this happening is unknown, but such a variant would present a significant risk both in the UK and internationally.
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50k cases per day, likely 1% infection rate nationwide, hospital admissions doubling roughly every three weeks and the clowns in government in the uk are ditching social distancing and masks on Monday
Utterly ridiculous.
Fast track to more restrictions in autumn, and a load of avoidable illnesses and deaths in the meantime
Keep your mask on, keep your distance and get your jab
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50k cases per day, likely 1% infection rate nationwide, hospital admissions doubling roughly every three weeks and the clowns in government in the uk are ditching social distancing and masks on Monday
Utterly ridiculous.
Fast track to more restrictions in autumn, and a load of avoidable illnesses and deaths in the meantime
Keep your mask on, keep your distance and get your jab