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Stoneage
I hear you, Jump. But he didn't do that a week ago. Instead he praised China's leader. Seems like he's flip-flopping a bit, wouldn't you say?
I think it was several weeks ago. I think
Yes originally he did stand up for them. Saying they were proud and embarrassed But when we started to figure out they were stock piling PPE etc. And learned more as to how they did their best to hide this from the world. Then yes. He called a spade a spade and won’t mix his words
Same with the WHO. It appears they also down played it when they knew it was very serious. He cut their funding. They’re fired ! Kinda. I get it and that’s the way it should be until they can justify their actions or non actions
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cmc
From The NY Times:
“As President Trump presses for states to reopen their economies, his administration is privately projecting a steady rise in the number of coronavirus cases and deaths over the next several weeks. The daily death toll will reach about 3,000 on June 1, according to an internal document obtained by The New York Times, nearly double the current number of about 1,750.”
In my opinion, it sounds like the administration has decided 3k deaths per day is an acceptable number in order to get the country open.
Provided the information is accurate of course.
[news.google.com]
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bv
The virus will not ebb out. We get a break now, but history is telling that pandemics come in waves. The next waves might hit harder.
The 1918 pandemic (a.k.a. the Spanish flu) should be understood by every single leader in the world. I bet it is one of the first topics in basic virology classes.
1918 Influenza: the Mother of All Pandemics (CDC USA)
The Deadliest Flu: The Complete Story of the Discovery and Reconstruction of the 1918 Pandemic Virus (CDC USA)
In the 1918–1919 pandemic, a first or spring wave began in March 1918 and spread unevenly through the United States, Europe, and possibly Asia over the next 6 months. Illness rates were high, but death rates in most locales were not appreciably above normal.
A second or fall wave spread globally from September to November 1918 and was highly fatal. In many nations, a third wave occurred in early 1919.
In retrospect, even the rapid progressions from uncomplicated influenza infections to fatal pneumonia, a hallmark of the 1918–1919 fall and winter waves, had been noted in the relatively few severe spring wave cases. The differences between the waves thus seemed to be primarily in the much higher frequency of complicated, severe, and fatal cases in the last 2 waves.
It is safe to assume that round 2 is coming in the fall. But I think it is also safe to assume round 2 will not be nearly as bad as the first round was this time. This is not 1918 or whenever This is 2020. We are far more advanced and will be and are far more prepared than we were when this virus started.
Time to get back to life and quit looking at everything to be the worst case.
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bv
Is Las Vegas really opening up? How are people supposed to get there? Driving their own cars? Or going through airports and airplanes?
Are really people willing to expose themselves to the virus these days? Just for entertainment? I mean you have to go to the grocery store for food, and you have to go to work, and you have to visit your parents and your friends, but you don't have to sit in with a slot machine in Las Vegas.
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CaptainCorella
The Guardian newspaper is now reporting that a revision of reported deaths in the UK, to include Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland (the correct definition of the UK), takes the total there to more than 32,000
[www.theguardian.com]
I'm deeply deeply shocked at that, and more than a little upset.
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CaptainCorella
The Guardian newspaper is now reporting that a revision of reported deaths in the UK, to include Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland (the correct definition of the UK), takes the total there to more than 32,000
[www.theguardian.com]
I'm deeply deeply shocked at that, and more than a little upset.
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MisterDDDD
Where cases are still rising
"Most countries with severe coronavirus outbreaks have come well down from their peak in new cases each day. It’s happened in Italy, Spain, France, Germany, Turkey and, if you believe the official numbers, China.
But it has not happened in the United States. Here, the number of both confirmed new cases and deaths has fallen only slightly in the last few weeks. Every day since April 2, there have been at least 22,000 new cases and 1,000 deaths.
Now, with many states preparing to reopen their economies, the toll is likely to start rising again, according to a private Trump administration forecast obtained by The Times. It projected about 3,000 deaths per day on June 1.
Why has the United States failed to bring down its caseload as much as most other countries?
The answer isn’t completely clear, given the complexity of the virus. But the leading suspect, many experts say, is the uneven nature of the U.S. response — like the shortage of tests so far and the mixed approach to social distancing.
[www.nytimes.com]
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MisterDDDD
Where cases are still rising
"Most countries with severe coronavirus outbreaks have come well down from their peak in new cases each day. It’s happened in Italy, Spain, France, Germany, Turkey and, if you believe the official numbers, China.
But it has not happened in the United States. Here, the number of both confirmed new cases and deaths has fallen only slightly in the last few weeks. Every day since April 2, there have been at least 22,000 new cases and 1,000 deaths.
Now, with many states preparing to reopen their economies, the toll is likely to start rising again, according to a private Trump administration forecast obtained by The Times. It projected about 3,000 deaths per day on June 1.
Why has the United States failed to bring down its caseload as much as most other countries?
The answer isn’t completely clear, given the complexity of the virus. But the leading suspect, many experts say, is the uneven nature of the U.S. response — like the shortage of tests so far and the mixed approach to social distancing.
[www.nytimes.com]
Maybe I need to start day drinking for the rest of US curve to look flat. Remove northern California and Washington I am sure the curve is even "flatter"
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bv
- Please no political comments
- Please do not make Corona jokes here
- Post facts not rumours
- Keep the talks mainly Stones tour related
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TheGreek
Mind blowing to me that so many of my fellow citizens think science is nonsense as the rush to reopen is sweeping the nation . All too often I hear so and so had underlying conditions and only those with underlying conditions are dying because now everyone over here knows more than the doctors and scientists . Led right from the top and we get what we have now - a huge mess with daily death counts .
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bv
IHME (Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, University of Washington, Seattle, USA) are running live models of fatalities based on the current rules of lockdown and/or open-up in USA:
[covid19.healthdata.org]
Today the estimate is 134,000 deaths from COVID-19 in USA by August 4, 2020
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The Joker
It's just a simple comment, but I may ask: what is the purpose of this thread? All what I read are updated death toll graphics.
IORR is precisely to cheer up, not spreading volume of bad news, every newspaper is doing the job now.
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bv
- Please no political comments
- Please do not make Corona jokes here
- Post facts not rumours
- Keep the talks mainly Stones tour related
It's just a simple comment, but I may ask: what is the purpose of this thread? All what I read are updated death toll graphics.
IORR is precisely to cheer up, not spreading volume of bad news, every newspaper is doing the job now.
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swimtothemoon
I just read the white house task force will begin to disband around the 25th of
this month. If true it’s just in time for the June 1st. predicted 3,000 US deaths per day forecast. The incompetence, coverup and lack of empathy is beyond belief.
It’s all about getting someone re-elected at ANY expense.
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Stoneage
Read a horrible article in Aftonbladet (the biggest Swedish newspaper) today. Apparently the food chain is disturbed among rats in New York City.
Many of them used to live on leftovers from the frequent restaurants in NYC. So they are getting desperate for food. Which makes them more visible on the streets.
Some have turned into cannibalism too. Which they do when food sources are scarce.