Please please I have a prayer/wish:

Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine
I think the President wanted some positive news. People need hope. Sure these drugs might work, but they need scientific testing of course. I don't want an endless partisan discussion on who said what and why and all of that. Please let us move on. No harm. The test project will move on. May be some of these anti ebola and anti malaria etc drugs will be approved eventually, with proper doses and combinations, but it takes time. Meanwhile, please please do not kill each others with I hate CNN and I hate FOX and all of that, it will be an endless pissing contest nobody will win.

New York Governor Cuomo and the US President Trump
Please stop making jokes about them. I will not allow it. I will delete any such posts. Again, just like the above, this is not a pissing contest. You have the sun, you have the moon, and you have The Stones. Then every leader in USA want the best for their people, in different ways, and sure it is election year in USA, but this is NOT time for an "I am smarter than you" competition here on IORR.

OK?

Bjornulf



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Just end this lockdown, man; come on! Yes, the elderly and those with ‘health conditions’ ‘May’ be more ‘at risk’, but everyone else needs to go back to work and live a life. After more than several weeks, this is becoming utterly bonkers and crazy!

Talk to me after you have had a case of Covid-19. Until then you are talking nonsense.

Look, we cannot cower until their is a vaccine. Life has to go on. We have to adapt. As a public servant, I’m gladly returning to work next Tuesday, April 28

USA are projected to have 65,000 fatalities by August 2020 (IHME projections). If the current conditions apply. By opening up the exponential the curve will increase into 124,000 deaths by August.

These are the IHME prediction models (still link on page one of this thread):

[covid19.healthdata.org]

Bjornulf

Surprising news from a French study:

"Conclusions and relevance: Our cross sectional study in both COVID-19 out- and inpatients strongly suggests that daily smokers have a very much lower probability of developing symptomatic or severe SARS-CoV-2 infection as compared to the general population."
[www.qeios.com]

A similar observations had already been made by a Greek-American study:

"An unusually low prevalence of current smoking among hospitalized COVID-19 cases in China was observed when considering the population smoking prevalence."
[www.qeios.com]

French researchers from the Assistance Publique – Hôpitaux de Paris and the Pasteur Institute hypothesize it might have to do with nicotine:

"Based on the current scientific literature and on new epidemiological data which reveal that current smoking status appears to be a protective factor against the infection by SARS-CoV-2 [1], we hypothesize that the nicotinic acetylcholine receptor (nAChR) plays a key role in the pathophysiology of Covid-19 infection and might represent a target for the prevention and control of Covid-19 infection."
[www.qeios.com]

You bet there are wild discussions of these results, especially about the reliability of the statistical data on which the studies are based, e.g. below and quite likely in a ton of other blogs:

[antithrlies.com]

Should it turn out that there is any real substance to these findings, this certainly came from a rather unexpected side. More will (or would) be known once (or if at some point) more and better data become available.

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Just end this lockdown, man; come on! Yes, the elderly and those with ‘health conditions’ ‘May’ be more ‘at risk’, but everyone else needs to go back to work and live a life. After more than several weeks, this is becoming utterly bonkers and crazy!

Talk to me after you have had a case of Covid-19. Until then you are talking nonsense.

Look, we cannot cower until their is a vaccine. Life has to go on. We have to adapt. As a public servant, I’m gladly returning to work next Tuesday, April 28

Good for you, for your sake you should be careful. You are awfully dismissive of the severity of this. I know better from my experience with it.

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Please please I have a prayer/wish:

Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine
I think the President wanted some positive news. People need hope. Sure these drugs might work, but they need scientific testing of course. I don't want an endless partisan discussion on who said what and why and all of that. Please let us move on. No harm. The test project will move on. May be some of these anti ebola and anti malaria etc drugs will be approved eventually, with proper doses and combinations, but it takes time. Meanwhile, please please do not kill each others with I hate CNN and I hate FOX and all of that, it will be an endless pissing contest nobody will win.

New York Governor Cuomo and the US President Trump
Please stop making jokes about them. I will not allow it. I will delete any such posts. Again, just like the above, this is not a pissing contest. You have the sun, you have the moon, and you have The Stones. Then every leader in USA want the best for their people, in different ways, and sure it is election year in USA, but this is NOT time for an "I am smarter than you" competition here on IORR.

OK?

OK!!

Can we add "no more pissing contests about which news outlets are reliable?"

if folks don't like an outlet, then don't take their "word"....rather than immediately dismiss them, do your own research and bring your own information to the table...without judgement.

too much "This network is Fake"..."no THAT network is fake"

Good policy: If I hear/read something, I try to confirm w/ another source and go from there....try to watch/read a variety of sources to see what types of stories are being published/shown elsewhere.

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Just end this lockdown, man; come on! Yes, the elderly and those with ‘health conditions’ ‘May’ be more ‘at risk’, but everyone else needs to go back to work and live a life. After more than several weeks, this is becoming utterly bonkers and crazy!

Talk to me after you have had a case of Covid-19. Until then you are talking nonsense.

Look, we cannot cower until their is a vaccine. Life has to go on. We have to adapt. As a public servant, I’m gladly returning to work next Tuesday, April 28

It's not about "cowering" or being brave (although many certainly are). It's about getting this under control to save lives.
Not only that, but also actually shortening the overall time that we spend in shutdown mode.
The states that "open" (to those willing to actually go out), will be starting over from near scratch again in several weeks.

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Fantastic News!!
Thanks.

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Fantastic News!!
Thanks.

Uplifting news like this is very needed today by all of us.

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Just end this lockdown, man; come on! Yes, the elderly and those with ‘health conditions’ ‘May’ be more ‘at risk’, but everyone else needs to go back to work and live a life. After more than several weeks, this is becoming utterly bonkers and crazy!

Talk to me after you have had a case of Covid-19. Until then you are talking nonsense.

Look, we cannot cower until their is a vaccine. Life has to go on. We have to adapt. As a public servant, I’m gladly returning to work next Tuesday, April 28

I agree, but we have to be as "smart" as possible about it....

IMO....there are a lot of "common sense" openings that can happen immediately....like golf courses....why are they closed? If you can't social-distance on a golf course, you can't social distance.

Same w/ landscaping businesses...

Hair salons and barbers can open if masks/gloves are worn (and changed), full wipe-downs after each customer and 1 customer at a time....customers must wear mask.

IMO...if we are to open things, I think we need a "Masks in Public at All Times" ordinance like some cities are already doing in my state (MA).

If people wear masks in public, that is the same as "covering your sneeze/cough" and prevents spread.

There should/could also be a "no more than __ people per ___ square feet (meters) in the store at once" ordinance....

if that happens, certain things can open.

Bars should NOT open. Nor should schools...yet (we may as well wait till fall at this point)....IMO.

Covid is bad...wicked bad....but, we live in a capitalist world....if things continue down this path for too long, the entire economy will seize up like a 1973 Ford Pinto w/o an oil change....

....and if that happens, it will be full-on Planet of the Apes time.

Right. I don't want to see what news are fake and good and bad and so on, because everybody have different preferences. It makes no sense to call any news fake. If I see a news post about Elvis seen walking the streets of Memphis this week, or a man with two heads, then I will delete such posts. Also I will remove any claims of CNN, FOX, NYTimes or whatever being fake, unless it is a story about a man with three heads or something like that.

Bjornulf

If everybody respect other people's opinions then live will be easier both here and in real life. No need to fight about who and what is right or wrong or fake or red or blue or whatever here. I like both red white and blue so it is easy for me to like everyone.

Bjornulf

I think what the world needs is an expedited release of a vaccine and there is a way to go about it. Instead of waiting to fall 2021 which would be the normal, conservative route, the target should be to release a vaccine by this September and have world-wide production in October.

The opportunity cost in lives is too high to wait until late 2021. Even if some people suffer adverse effects from a vaccine that is not ready, it will pale in comparison to what damage will be done if you wait until late 2021.

The simple solution is to get volunteers ('early adopters') to take the vaccine. I am going to assume that you could get tens of thousands of volunteers without too much difficulty. You track them over a few months and test them regularly and before too long you will have conclusive data about the effectiveness of the vaccine, and any adverse affects.

Seriously, I think that many would volunteer out of altruism or the simple desire to get immunity. And if they volunteer you guarantee that they will get access to proper medical care if needed.

Suppose on September 20th they announce a vaccine that is 99.5% effective and it has 0.2% adverse affects and the sample size was 20,000 people monitored over two months. Those would be good numbers and many people would want to be vaccinated. That would allow for resumption of the normal economy by Q4 of this year.

If you want some food for thought, look up the story of how President Roosevelt dealt with the issue of the need to produce synthetic rubber in WWII. The Unites States was cut off from their natural rubber supply when the Japanese invaded the Dutch East Indies/Indonesia.

In case you never thought of it: No rubber in any form and the economy grinds to a halt and in short order there would be panic and starvation. No rubber would pretty much bring on an apocalypse. It was true in WWII and it's just as true today.

Opening up Las Vegas prematurely would be insane imo.
What happens in Vegas wouldn't be staying in Vegas during these times.

The Mayor that wants to open up the city is neither Rep or Dem, but an Independent fwiw.
Fortunately, it's not up to her, but the Governor, not to mention the casino owners who to their credit shut them down voluntarily relatively early considering.

Las Vegas mayor: Reopen casinos, let the ones with the most infections then close

"Let them, and visitors, gather and gamble, smoke in confined spaces, touch slot machines all day — and let the chips, and apparently the infections, fall where they may.
“Assume everybody is a carrier," the mayor said Tuesday on MSNBC. "And then you start from an even slate. And tell the people what to do. And let the businesses open and competition will destroy that business if, in fact, they become evident that they have disease, they’re closed down. It’s that simple.”
[www.washingtonpost.com]

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Opening up Las Vegas prematurely would be insane imo.
What happens in Vegas wouldn't be staying in Vegas during these times.

The Mayor that wants to open up the city is neither Rep or Dem, but an Independent fwiw.
Fortunately, it's not up to her, but the Governor, not to mention the casino owners who to their credit shut them down voluntarily relatively early considering.

Las Vegas mayor: Reopen casinos, let the ones with the most infections then close

"Let them, and visitors, gather and gamble, smoke in confined spaces, touch slot machines all day — and let the chips, and apparently the infections, fall where they may.
“Assume everybody is a carrier," the mayor said Tuesday on MSNBC. "And then you start from an even slate. And tell the people what to do. And let the businesses open and competition will destroy that business if, in fact, they become evident that they have disease, they’re closed down. It’s that simple.”
[www.washingtonpost.com]

this seems like a really bad idea....as in, take this case (below) and multiply it by rooms filled w/ people....

[thehill.com]

Americans Overwhelmingly Support Stay-At-Home Restrictions, New Poll Finds

[www.forbes.com]

The beaches in my city have just officially opened, after neighboring cities' beaches opened over the weekend. News sort of went under the radar thankfully, and since our beaches are already quite isolated and spread out compared to overcrowded L.A. beaches, things should work out. Certain rules that apply includes social distancing, no large groups, etc., but swimming/surfing, running, walking the dogs, etc. are all allowed while keeping a safe distance. First real heatwave of the season is about to hit so that might be a test of how many people will show up at the beaches, but again we're semi-isolated/spread out, and most "crowds" don't appear until June/July/August.

EDIT/PS - Mixed feelings about this as I think it might be too soon to take any risks (?), but wide open spaces on the edge of the Pacific Ocean seems to be safer than going in to a supermarket!

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The beaches in my city have just officially opened, after neighboring cities' beaches opened over the weekend. News sort of went under the radar thankfully, and since our beaches are already quite isolated and spread out compared to overcrowded L.A. beaches, things should work out. Certain rules that apply includes social distancing, no large groups, etc., but swimming/surfing, running, walking the dogs, etc. are all allowed while keeping a safe distance. First real heatwave of the season is about to hit so that might be a test of how many people will show up at the beaches, but again we're semi-isolated/spread out, and most "crowds" don't appear until June/July/August.

EDIT/PS - Mixed feelings about this as I think it might be too soon to take any risks (?), but wide open spaces on the edge of the Pacific Ocean seems to be safer than going in to a supermarket!

this is an interesting one I can't quite wrap my head around....

"beaches open...stores/businesses closed".....

isn't that kinda inviting everybody to go to the beach?

I live in a beach area on the Northern LEast Coast...but, it's still f'n cold here. Beaches never closed in the first place (except for one town)...crowds are very light. But, I still only go when it is rainy...and they are empty.

weird...my whole routine is backward now...I only run, bike & go to the beach when it rains and I pick the sunniest/nicest day to go to the supermarket.

go figure.

Good luck either way! Vitamin D is good for ya!

The situation remains serious. Since I am on my own in my flat I eat a lot of garlic at the moment. It is one of those things which are healthy and bring joy at the same time. The smell is no problem, if you are surrounded by people who eat as much garlic as yourself.

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The beaches in my city have just officially opened, after neighboring cities' beaches opened over the weekend. News sort of went under the radar thankfully, and since our beaches are already quite isolated and spread out compared to overcrowded L.A. beaches, things should work out. Certain rules that apply includes social distancing, no large groups, etc., but swimming/surfing, running, walking the dogs, etc. are all allowed while keeping a safe distance. First real heatwave of the season is about to hit so that might be a test of how many people will show up at the beaches, but again we're semi-isolated/spread out, and most "crowds" don't appear until June/July/August.

EDIT/PS - Mixed feelings about this as I think it might be too soon to take any risks (?), but wide open spaces on the edge of the Pacific Ocean seems to be safer than going in to a supermarket!

this is an interesting one I can't quite wrap my head around....

"beaches open...stores/businesses closed".....

isn't that kinda inviting everybody to go to the beach?

I live in a beach area on the Northern LEast Coast...but, it's still f'n cold here. Beaches never closed in the first place (except for one town)...crowds are very light. But, I still only go when it is rainy...and they are empty.

weird...my whole routine is backward now...I only run, bike & go to the beach when it rains and I pick the sunniest/nicest day to go to the supermarket.

go figure.

Good luck either way! Vitamin D is good for ya!

Opening an uncrowded, massive, spread out, semi-isolated beach should be alot easier to wrap your head around than opening a golf course which you yourself said is "common sense".
Born and raised on the southern California coast, and wouldn't have it any other way.

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Opening up Las Vegas prematurely would be insane imo.
What happens in Vegas wouldn't be staying in Vegas during these times.

The Mayor that wants to open up the city is neither Rep or Dem, but an Independent fwiw.
Fortunately, it's not up to her, but the Governor, not to mention the casino owners who to their credit shut them down voluntarily relatively early considering.

Las Vegas mayor: Reopen casinos, let the ones with the most infections then close

"Let them, and visitors, gather and gamble, smoke in confined spaces, touch slot machines all day — and let the chips, and apparently the infections, fall where they may.
“Assume everybody is a carrier," the mayor said Tuesday on MSNBC. "And then you start from an even slate. And tell the people what to do. And let the businesses open and competition will destroy that business if, in fact, they become evident that they have disease, they’re closed down. It’s that simple.”
[www.washingtonpost.com]

Sounds like an evil plot from Dr. Evil to wipe everyone off the face of the earth.
Or a lame joke by a bad Vegas comedian making light of the situation.

Is this Mayor serious?!!!

Just did a google search and she's all over the place making controversial statements...complete loony tune...

Viva Las Vegas...

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Sounds like an evil plot from Dr. Evil to wipe everyone off the face of the earth.
Or a lame joke by a bad Vegas comedian making light of the situation.

Is this Mayor serious?!!!

Just did a google search and she's all over the place making controversial statements...complete loony tune...

Viva Las Vegas...

Not to spark any further media debate, but this shot from her appearance today on CNN says it all

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The beaches in my city have just officially opened, after neighboring cities' beaches opened over the weekend. News sort of went under the radar thankfully, and since our beaches are already quite isolated and spread out compared to overcrowded L.A. beaches, things should work out. Certain rules that apply includes social distancing, no large groups, etc., but swimming/surfing, running, walking the dogs, etc. are all allowed while keeping a safe distance. First real heatwave of the season is about to hit so that might be a test of how many people will show up at the beaches, but again we're semi-isolated/spread out, and most "crowds" don't appear until June/July/August.

EDIT/PS - Mixed feelings about this as I think it might be too soon to take any risks (?), but wide open spaces on the edge of the Pacific Ocean seems to be safer than going in to a supermarket!

this is an interesting one I can't quite wrap my head around....

"beaches open...stores/businesses closed".....

isn't that kinda inviting everybody to go to the beach?

I live in a beach area on the Northern LEast Coast...but, it's still f'n cold here. Beaches never closed in the first place (except for one town)...crowds are very light. But, I still only go when it is rainy...and they are empty.

weird...my whole routine is backward now...I only run, bike & go to the beach when it rains and I pick the sunniest/nicest day to go to the supermarket.

go figure.

Good luck either way! Vitamin D is good for ya!

Opening an uncrowded, massive, spread out, semi-isolated beach should be alot easier to wrap your head around than opening a golf course which you yourself said is "common sense".
Born and raised on the southern California coast, and wouldn't have it any other way.

I wasn't saying I was opposed to it.

I just think that "nice weather + no work (or businesses open) + (free) beach = crowded beach".....and people have proven over and over they don't/won't listen to "recommendations"

Simply put, when the weather gets nice here, the weekends are always 5-10x as crowded due to "no work"....

golf courses are easily controlled b/c there is clear oversight (ie. # of people allowed on, groups of 2-4 max, scheduled and spaced-out tee times....the written rules prevent people from "playing on top of each other")....plus, far fewer people golf than go to the beach to begin with.

beaches are a free-for all....take a look at Florida. No golf course in the world ever looks like that.

and...unless people pay to go to the beach, opening them adds nothing to the economy....which was part of my point about "common sense"...open things that are low-risk and create (some) economic growth.

as stated...I'm not opposed to it, I just think it is an open invitation for crowds at the beach if there is "nothing else to do" (ie. work) and the weather is getting nicer.

that's what I can't wrap my head around....if we can open the beach w/ essentially unenforceable "recommendations" then we might as well open parts of the economy w/ enforceable ordinances and get people back to work....

That being said: SoCal is sweet. Good waves. It's late-April and we still have to wear a 6mm wetsuit + boots + gloves up here.

no crowds though.

enjoy!!

stay safe!



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Article about a guy from Ohio who publicly called Covid-19 a political ploy.
Ironically, he died from the virus.

[news.google.com]

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Just end this lockdown, man; come on! Yes, the elderly and those with ‘health conditions’ ‘May’ be more ‘at risk’, but everyone else needs to go back to work and live a life. After more than several weeks, this is becoming utterly bonkers and crazy!

Talk to me after you have had a case of Covid-19. Until then you are talking nonsense.

Look, we cannot cower until their is a vaccine. Life has to go on. We have to adapt. As a public servant, I’m gladly returning to work next Tuesday, April 28

It's not about "cowering" or being brave (although many certainly are). It's about getting this under control to save lives.
Not only that, but also actually shortening the overall time that we spend in shutdown mode.
The states that "open" (to those willing to actually go out), will be starting over from near scratch again in several weeks.

Its not just their states that will be starting from scratch. It will be the entire country. People travel whether is is an interstate trucker or a college student. Opening up states like Georgia and Florida will impact many other states trying to stay safe.

I found this opinion story very interesting. The author is based in Ireland. The story is relevant because of the poor handling of this pandemic in the US by the President.

[www.euronews.com]



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The beaches in my city have just officially opened, after neighboring cities' beaches opened over the weekend. News sort of went under the radar thankfully, and since our beaches are already quite isolated and spread out compared to overcrowded L.A. beaches, things should work out. Certain rules that apply includes social distancing, no large groups, etc., but swimming/surfing, running, walking the dogs, etc. are all allowed while keeping a safe distance. First real heatwave of the season is about to hit so that might be a test of how many people will show up at the beaches, but again we're semi-isolated/spread out, and most "crowds" don't appear until June/July/August.

EDIT/PS - Mixed feelings about this as I think it might be too soon to take any risks (?), but wide open spaces on the edge of the Pacific Ocean seems to be safer than going in to a supermarket!

this is an interesting one I can't quite wrap my head around....

"beaches open...stores/businesses closed".....

isn't that kinda inviting everybody to go to the beach?

I live in a beach area on the Northern LEast Coast...but, it's still f'n cold here. Beaches never closed in the first place (except for one town)...crowds are very light. But, I still only go when it is rainy...and they are empty.

weird...my whole routine is backward now...I only run, bike & go to the beach when it rains and I pick the sunniest/nicest day to go to the supermarket.

go figure.

Good luck either way! Vitamin D is good for ya!

Opening an uncrowded, massive, spread out, semi-isolated beach should be alot easier to wrap your head around than opening a golf course which you yourself said is "common sense".
Born and raised on the southern California coast, and wouldn't have it any other way.

I wasn't saying I was opposed to it.

I just think that "nice weather + no work (or businesses open) + (free) beach = crowded beach".....and people have proven over and over they don't/won't listen to "recommendations"

Simply put, when the weather gets nice here, the weekends are always 5-10x as crowded due to "no work"....

golf courses are easily controlled b/c there is clear oversight (ie. # of people allowed on, groups of 2-4 max, scheduled and spaced-out tee times....the written rules prevent people from "playing on top of each other")....plus, far fewer people golf than go to the beach to begin with.

beaches are a free-for all....take a look at Florida. No golf course in the world ever looks like that.

and...unless people pay to go to the beach, opening them adds nothing to the economy....which was part of my point about "common sense"...open things that are low-risk and create (some) economic growth.

as stated...I'm not opposed to it, I just think it is an open invitation for crowds at the beach if there is "nothing else to do" (ie. work) and the weather is getting nicer.

that's what I can't wrap my head around....if we can open the beach w/ essentially unenforceable "recommendations" then we might as well open parts of the economy w/ enforceable ordinances and get people back to work....

That being said: SoCal is sweet. Good waves. It's late-April and we still have to wear a 6mm wetsuit + boots + gloves up here.

no crowds though.

enjoy!!

stay safe!

I guess you missed the parts where I wrote "our beaches are already quite isolated and spread out compared to overcrowded L.A. beaches", then "semi-isolated/spread out", followed by "wide open spaces on the edge of the Pacific Ocean" in my first post, along with "uncrowded, massive, spread out, semi-isolated beach" in my second post, but evidently you just like to debate and/or disagree for the sake of it as seen throughout this thread . But that's cool with me as I know isolation can lead to boredom lol.

Surfs up, and don't forget to wear your 6mm wetsuit + boots + gloves.

PS - I've seen the Florida beach pics, and in fact I was the one that posted the story here the other day.
I can promise you - we're no crowded Florida beach up here where I live (60 miles north of L.A.), especially this time of year.

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Boeing workers’ return after coronavirus closure is a test case for industrial recovery

"When Boeing workers returned en masse Tuesday to the airplane factories in the Puget Sound region after a four-week shutdown, they found a changed workplace, cleaner and with a series of safety protocols in place to stop the spread of the coronavirus.

Boeing, the first large employer in the state to do such a worker recall, is essentially a test case of whether the U.S. economy can safely handle a return to work while the coronavirus pandemic is still uncontained. The complex industrial environment of an aircraft manufacturer makes it a tough test."

"The initial days of the Boeing experiment won’t be easy to assess, because a significant number of employees chose to stay home this week. They took advantage of a Boeing directive that allows them seven days of excused leave without pay based on COVID-19 concerns."

[www.seattletimes.com]

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So Texas and Vermont will partially reopen Monday. I forsee a large jump in cases, perhaps not so much in Vermont since it has a small population. Large cities like Houston and Dallas might turn into New Orleans with the number infected.
I take screen shots on my cell phone from the Fox News website which shows current world and US cases. On Friday morning the US had 672246 cases and 33288 deaths. Today, it stood at 755533 cases and 41379 deaths. 8091 reported deaths in 2 days. At this rate, they'll hit 60000 by next weekend if they don't flatten the curve. Who knows where it'll be the weekend after that.

Just to update my numbers from Sunday afternoon, things seemed to have slowed a bit down in the US. Current US figures are 852703 cases and 47750 deaths so 97152 new cases and 6371 deaths or a little over 2000 per day. At this rate, they'll hit mid 50's by Saturday.