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Totally agree. There are so many great shots in that film. I went through it frame by frame, each one a work of art.Quote
maumau
best rolling stones video in ages, great director, explicit, really in tune with the stones that chose the tongue logo, fit perfectly the song. really enjoy the whole thing. bravo mick
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MrEchoTotally agree. There are so many great shots in that film. I went through it frame by frame, each one a work of art.Quote
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best rolling stones video in ages, great director, explicit, really in tune with the stones that chose the tongue logo, fit perfectly the song. really enjoy the whole thing. bravo mick
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calipachangero
I canseehear why this was an outtake. I like several songs on Goats Head Soup, nevertheless think it was a bit of a lowpoint, but understandable after such high standard set with the trilogy of Let it bleed, Sticky Fingers and Exile.
Hope something will be made available from Black and Blue shortly!
Agreed -nothing special with Criss Cross and some outtakes from B & B might prove favorable.
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So last year I was lucky enough to hear Sgt Pepper in Dolby ATMOS at Abbey Road. I then got to interview Giles Martin, son of George, who'd mixed it. They then set up a room in Liverpool over Christmas for the public to hear it.
Giles said then he was working on a GHS Dolby ATMOS mix with Mick. The Pepper mix was the coolest thing ever. But you need a room with around 50 speakers to hear it properly ie a cinema (they had a special listening room set up at Abbey Road).
So I'm wondering where we can hear the Dolby ATMOS version of GHS? It would be spectacular!
Wow that's interesting, don't believe it's ever been mentioned elsewhere before ! I must say I was a bit surprised when I saw the announcement for a 5.1 mix for GHS yesterday as there's only ONE Stones track available in 5.1 so far and that's "Sympathy for the Devil" that came out on an SACD at the time of the 2020 SACD rereleases as a "taster" I suppose although that mostly lead people to think that there 5.1 mixes on the actual SACD releases ;-)
Even without an Atmos system you can enjoy the immersive 5.1 audio with any "standard" 5.1 setup using a BD Player or PS4 or a PC Home Theater System.
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Gazza
I think its pretty obvious by now from these reissues and the hundreds of studio bootlegs over the years that the Stones simply dont have a lot of finished original songs in their vaults. Thats why its hard to imagine them releasing a career-spanning box set of outtakes. It would require far too much work to make the songs presentable. Who's going to buy a few cds worth of guff like 'Petrol Blues' or Mick singing out of tune dummy lyrics. If they did a release like that it would mostly have to be alternate takes of released songs.
Whilst they might work on 20-30 songs for an album, in the vast majority of cases they only seem to finish what they're going to use. Which is understandable. The concept of reissuing expanded versions of albums didnt exist in the 60s and 70s. Why waste time and money finishing 20 songs when you're only going to need ten.
Most of the best unreleased finished songs that are in circulation are covers.
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MrEchoTotally agree. There are so many great shots in that film. I went through it frame by frame, each one a work of art.Quote
maumau
best rolling stones video in ages, great director, explicit, really in tune with the stones that chose the tongue logo, fit perfectly the song. really enjoy the whole thing. bravo mick
Also agree completely.
Believe the director Diana Kunst, was best known as a photographer, who has directed some big name videos more recently. The actress/model Guindilla Ontanaya a good friend of hers I also believe.
Interesting how the video is described as a "video diary" in the credits..
"The Rolling Stones 'Criss Cross' - a video diary by Diana Kunst 2015 - 2020"
As well as how it was filmed "Shot on Kodak Film and developed by Cinelab London."
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Not certain that would mean some of the shots go back as far as 2015 or not, but that's the way I'm reading it. Very artfully done, and while sexy, certainly not sexist in any way imo.
Directed by a woman, with really no male or female interaction in the video, except for the end where the two women run into the ocean. Very well done.
I would say that about their last three videos that come to mind, Ride "Em On Down, Ghost Town and this one have all been excellent.
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I like it. But the video? Now, I’m a red blooded male. But that’s crass from a band pushing into their 80s. Do they really think in 2020, that’s appropriate?
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bitusa2012
I like it. But the video? Now, I’m a red blooded male. But that’s crass from a band pushing into their 80s. Do they really think in 2020, that’s appropriate?
I'm far more shocked that once again Mick has decided to be "hip" and he asked a "hot" young "artist" to shoot this mess... I mean this video. Apparently she's an "acclaimed photographer and filmmaker". Well...
I hope she spent a good time travelling across the Usa at the expense of the band.
. I would love something like the Satanic Majesties bootleg box , where you have multiple takes of In Another land.Or what Yoko did with the Imagine album where you have multiple takes of songs from that album.Right now there is preparation to release a new Let it Be movie with previously unreleased stuff.To be creative you could have isolated tracks as well.There were like 75 takes of Tumbling Dice .What happened to them? Moonlight Mile was possibly cut down from 8 minutes.Maybe there are alternate Let it Bleed takes with Brian and Ry Cooder.Then there must be still better sounding live concerts from this era like London 1973 in the vaults.The Stones recorded and filmed all 4Texas shows in 1972.Where are they? None of this would sell to the casual fan.Quote
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calipachangero
I canseehear why this was an outtake. I like several songs on Goats Head Soup, nevertheless think it was a bit of a lowpoint, but understandable after such high standard set with the trilogy of Let it bleed, Sticky Fingers and Exile.
Hope something will be made available from Black and Blue shortly!
Agreed -nothing special with Criss Cross and some outtakes from B & B might prove favorable.
An album that consists of only 8 songs - one of them a cover and two that were 'inspired' (ie, co written) by Woody or Billy Preston yet which took them 17 months to put out doesnt strike me as a period where they were particularly bursting with creativity.
They already reworked two of the leftover songs ('Worried about you' and 'Slave'). Doubt there are too many more that were close to finished. The fact that almost everything on Tattoo You needed overdubs, new vocals or lyrics speaks volumes.
I think its pretty obvious by now from these reissues and the hundreds of studio bootlegs over the years that the Stones simply dont have a lot of finished original songs in their vaults. Thats why its hard to imagine them releasing a career-spanning box set of outtakes. It would require far too much work to make the songs presentable. Who's going to buy a few cds worth of guff like 'Petrol Blues' or Mick singing out of tune dummy lyrics. If they did a release like that it would mostly have to be alternate takes of released songs.
Whilst they might work on 20-30 songs for an album, in the vast majority of cases they only seem to finish what they're going to use. Which is understandable. The concept of reissuing expanded versions of albums didnt exist in the 60s and 70s. Why waste time and money finishing 20 songs when you're only going to need ten.
Most of the best unreleased finished songs that are in circulation are covers.
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StonedRambler
Man, those who are complaining about the video here. Have you ever listend to the lyrics of you favourite band's music? Starfckr, Under My Thumb, Some Girls, Brown Sugar and now Criss Cross? I mean the Stones are not really role models of political correctness. They are what they are and that's what you have to accept with that band. With a new song that video might have been a bit strange in my opinion but as the song is from 1972 when almost every song was either about sex or drugs this video is quite fitting
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Man, those who are complaining about the video here. Have you ever listend to the lyrics of you favourite band's music? Starfckr, Under My Thumb, Some Girls, Brown Sugar and now Criss Cross? I mean the Stones are not really role models of political correctness. They are what they are and that's what you have to accept with that band. With a new song that video might have been a bit strange in my opinion but as the song is from 1972 when almost every song was either about sex or drugs this video is quite fitting
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MisterDDDD
Bravo.
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GasLightStreet
The video is interesting but it's rather boring, actually: it could be used for any music. It does nothing with or for the song.
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The video is interesting but it's rather boring, actually: it could be used for any music. It does nothing with or for the song.
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Hairball
Like most Stones videos, this will be forgotten when all is said and done with just the song itself being the only thing that really matters.
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Hairball
Not sure what all the commotion is about over a video - really...who gives a crap.
Whether it's great or not (I think it's nice), never paid too much attention to videos by any band as I prefer to let the music do the talking.
Sure sometimes they might add something, while other times they can be a distraction, but I would never think they actually make or break a song.
Seems a waste of time to either criticize and bash or defend and over-praise like a cheerleader when the only thing that should matter is the song itself.
Like most Stones videos, this will be forgotten when all is said and done with just the song itself being the only thing that really matters.
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GasLightStreet
The video is interesting but it's rather boring, actually: it could be used for any music. It does nothing with or for the song.
It's basically a commercial. Could have been used to sell anything. Clothes, beer, cars, whatever. What creates the interest is the half naked model running around. Not exactly a new trick in the book.
Which could have created some criticism if it wasn't for a) a rock band b) or had a wider circulation. In this case I think they will get away with it. I don't think The Rolling Stones had much to do with the video.
But Sir Michael must have seen it anyway. He is not the Stones CEO for nothing...
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Diana is equally at home finding the unique personalities that fuel those narratives[/i]
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Hairball
Like most Stones videos, this will be forgotten when all is said and done with just the song itself being the only thing that really matters.
I don't think all RS videos will be forgotten though. I kind of liked the TY videos. However unpretentious they were. But of course, the big rock/pop video era is gone. The MTV years.
And the Stones haven't been that active in making videos since the 90's. They seem to leave it to third party agencies to make videos since then.