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DandelionPowderman
I'd say this definitely is on topic
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vertigojoe
I agree. I like this track. And for sure, England is lost.
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bitusa2012
It’s on topic. It’s a rubbish song though, unfortunately.
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vertigojoe
I agree. I like this track. And for sure, England is lost.
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vertigojoe
I agree. I like this track. And for sure, England is lost.
Time will tell...
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Doxa
I put this as "OT" since 'this is no Stones', right?
Of Jagger's 'Brexit single' I have always regarded "Get A Grip" as a stronger tune, but lately I've been listening more to "England Lost". I especially didn't realize, until now, what a brilliant the video of it is.
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Shit, it (both the song and the video) captures the vibe of an Englishman so well at the moment. How damn confused one is. Lyrically, typical to Mick, it didn't fingerpoint anything directly, but just gives hints open to different interpretations. Mick's too clever and experienced to give any easy answers or stances. Probably due to our age, political climate and rhetorics that kind of more intellectual and existential reflection do not resonate with our sentiments. Probably that's why it didn't get much attention at the time. Musically, the whole thing supports the confused, insecure feeling - a beautiful, esoteric landscape Mick paints us, full of interesting little musical choices and ideas. Every little nuance is well-thought, the old principle of 'less is more' is well used. And it also sounds unlike anything he ever has done (although there are some familiar moments we associate with Mick, such as his rap-talk and the harmonica). This is Mick at his most experimental. I sense there a bit of spirit of his friend David Bowie.
An interesting sudden touch of muse the whole single was. Very rarely on can feel Mick doing something out of pure artistic expression. I get the feeling that this one surely is one of those moments. Jagger had something to say and he wanted to get that out of his system (and not even Keith's veto stopped him). Isn't that what 'art' is all about? Besides, the single came out of the blue at at the time, without any big notice or fuss. The guy himself didn't promote the whole thing almost at all. Just the songs and videos out, no need for Pete Townshend-like commentary of 'what is to be artist' and all that crap.
A little latter-day career highlight for Mick Jagger.
- Doxa
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KRiffhard
Horrible song
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harlem shuffle
I thought almost everything Jagger do is OT?Especially on this sites.Sometimes i was wondering if he was a member of The Stones.If reading what Keith,s fans in here say,they never need Jagger,since Keith has written all the songs,and Jaggers voice totally ruins almost every song he,s singing on.
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LeonidP
Have to listen again, from what i remember, both were total crap.
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LeonidP
Have to listen again, from what i remember, both were total crap.
You remember well!!
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vertigojoe
I agree. I like this track. And for sure, England is lost.
After this morning’s result, I would say we’re a nation singing from hymn sheet, actually!
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vertigojoe
I agree. I like this track. And for sure, England is lost.
After this morning’s result, I would say we’re a nation singing from hymn sheet, actually!
Really? I think Mick's frustration is realistic. First the voters give the Tori's a blow in the face (May's downfall) and now they put Boris on a platform so high, that one wrong move will splash him ... and England. Both are a result of deeply rooted frustration. It hurts to say this, being a warm hearted Anglofile.
I remember 1971 (living in Liverpool). England was total disaster (almost an understatement) and only survived by joining the EEC. The Stones going to France that same year could be a coincidence, but was it?
Best of luck!