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No Mr Powderman i don,t say that.Whatever Jagger comes up with,Keith,s hangarounds find something terrible wrong about it.Same procedure every year,all the time.What,s next? Wandering Spirit,im pretty sure you find something terrible bad about that album alsow
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Doxa
To add a bit to the story I mentioned above.
We, each of us, all are ultimate judges of music - it is what our mind says, which makes the difference between the good, the bad, and the ugly. We know the arsehole analogy here.
But there is a more pragmatic realm out there also. I have a group of music lovers who occasionally meet, drink and listen music (and, of course talk about it a lot) together. I happen to be the only real Rolling Stones hardcore fan there (everybody likes them, but not anywhere near to the extent I do). To me those people, digging music in any kinds of form (mostly rock music) constitute a very interesting and educational case and chance of reflecting how people - who know the story of rock and pop and who are above the usual categorizing - might view the Stones outside the Stones hardcore fan circles. (It is also people like them - 'casual fans' - who fill up the stadiums.)
My experience of playing them some non-classical Stones stuff has been, roughly: try anything from albums like VOODOO LOUNGE and A BIGGER BANG, the reaction is: 'yeah, that's Stones for sure. But hey, couldn't we listen HOT ROCKS or STICKY FINGERS if we need to listen that'. But then if I put something totally different, a track like "Say You Will", the reaction is: 'Oh shit, what's that? Has he really done something like that too?'. Usually the reaction is firstly amused, but after the first shock is gone, it tends to go 'that's actually quite good'. That makes me smile.
I think over-all, when all is said and done, and especially if the 'purist' side of Stones hardcore fans die or grow up, people will have a more relaxed attitude towards the musical adventures of the Rolling Stones. That day people will see also Jagger's so called 'solo career' in a bigger picture, as one musical journey in his long and fascinating career and of the Stones. Those contextually determinated intuitions that once dumped much of it do not revail - or mean anything - any longer.
I spent my formative years as a teenager during the 80's. It is soon the 2020's, and I am not a teenager any longer. But I cannot help feel that for many hardcore Stones fans the 80's never ended. We are still in the same premises, same intuitions, same categories, same arguments as then. For sure it was a helluva, odd decade for pop music, but it seemed fatal for the Stones and to their fans. Like we never survived it mentally. Was it a wordless agreement that we all - the band, the fans - refuse to grow up or re-think our concepts?
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No Mr Powderman i don,t say that.Whatever Jagger comes up with,Keith,s hangarounds find something terrible wrong about it.Same procedure every year,all the time.What,s next? Wandering Spirit,im pretty sure you find something terrible bad about that album alsow
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No Mr Powderman i don,t say that.Whatever Jagger comes up with,Keith,s hangarounds find something terrible wrong about it.Same procedure every year,all the time.What,s next? Wandering Spirit,im pretty sure you find something terrible bad about that album alsow
If you insist...Think is terrible. Mother Of A Man too.
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Some strange opinions here,people saying Party Doll is a bad song.
You have to be a Keithfan to say something like that.But it,s not so strange reading this on these sites.Many here just dont like Mick Jagger for some reasons.These peoples are not Stonesfans,just Keithfans.Personally i don,t like Much out of Mick,s and Keith,s soloworks,just some of it.Wandering Spirit is a very good album,almost a classic,rest of soloalbums of Mick and Keith is easy forgettable.Almost never play any of these albums anymore
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Some strange opinions here,people saying Party Doll is a bad song.
You have to be a Keithfan to say something like that.But it,s not so strange reading this on these sites.Many here just dont like Mick Jagger for some reasons.These peoples are not Stonesfans,just Keithfans.Personally i don,t like Much out of Mick,s and Keith,s soloworks,just some of it.Wandering Spirit is a very good album,almost a classic,rest of soloalbums of Mick and Keith is easy forgettable.Almost never play any of these albums anymore
I vomit when I hear that flute on Party Doll. Or whatever that sound is. Bagpipes for all it matters.
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Some strange opinions here,people saying Party Doll is a bad song.
You have to be a Keithfan to say something like that.But it,s not so strange reading this on these sites.Many here just dont like Mick Jagger for some reasons.These peoples are not Stonesfans,just Keithfans.Personally i don,t like Much out of Mick,s and Keith,s soloworks,just some of it.Wandering Spirit is a very good album,almost a classic,rest of soloalbums of Mick and Keith is easy forgettable.Almost never play any of these albums anymore
I vomit when I hear that flute on Party Doll. Or whatever that sound is. Bagpipes for all it matters.
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The harmonica..?
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Some strange opinions here,people saying Party Doll is a bad song.
You have to be a Keithfan to say something like that.But it,s not so strange reading this on these sites.Many here just dont like Mick Jagger for some reasons.These peoples are not Stonesfans,just Keithfans.Personally i don,t like Much out of Mick,s and Keith,s soloworks,just some of it.Wandering Spirit is a very good album,almost a classic,rest of soloalbums of Mick and Keith is easy forgettable.Almost never play any of these albums anymore
I vomit when I hear that flute on Party Doll. Or whatever that sound is. Bagpipes for all it matters.
Mathijs
The harmonica..?
Penny whistle?
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Some strange opinions here,people saying Party Doll is a bad song.
You have to be a Keithfan to say something like that.But it,s not so strange reading this on these sites.Many here just dont like Mick Jagger for some reasons.These peoples are not Stonesfans,just Keithfans.Personally i don,t like Much out of Mick,s and Keith,s soloworks,just some of it.Wandering Spirit is a very good album,almost a classic,rest of soloalbums of Mick and Keith is easy forgettable.Almost never play any of these albums anymore
I vomit when I hear that flute on Party Doll. Or whatever that sound is. Bagpipes for all it matters.
Mathijs
The harmonica..?
Penny whistle?
I think it might be both: whistle and fiddle. Those first lines "Yew yewsed ta be.."LOL
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Yup. It’s easy to understand why Wandering Spirit is often hailed as the best solo release of any Rolling Stone – he should’ve entitled it ‘Acting Stonesy’ - but it’s really a fantastically mediocre record. I listen to ‘Evening Gown’ once in a while and the rest I’ve put in the trash.
She’s The Boss contains stronger songwriting but we never play her because we’re hard Stones fans to please and that’s our way of letting Mick know. But while we're too far gone to appreciate this gem I'm convinced there are others who can. This Christmas let’s all buy She’s The Boss or even Primitive Cool and give it to someone special.
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Some strange opinions here,people saying Party Doll is a bad song.
You have to be a Keithfan to say something like that.But it,s not so strange reading this on these sites.Many here just dont like Mick Jagger for some reasons.These peoples are not Stonesfans,just Keithfans.Personally i don,t like Much out of Mick,s and Keith,s soloworks,just some of it.Wandering Spirit is a very good album,almost a classic,rest of soloalbums of Mick and Keith is easy forgettable.Almost never play any of these albums anymore
I vomit when I hear that flute on Party Doll. Or whatever that sound is. Bagpipes for all it matters.
Mathijs
The harmonica..?
Penny whistle?
I think it might be both: whistle and fiddle. Those first lines "Yew yewsed ta be.."LOL
What's wrong with you all? It's a harmonica. There's fiddle in there too, but those lead lines are harmonica. Harp.
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Some strange opinions here,people saying Party Doll is a bad song.
You have to be a Keithfan to say something like that.But it,s not so strange reading this on these sites.Many here just dont like Mick Jagger for some reasons.These peoples are not Stonesfans,just Keithfans.Personally i don,t like Much out of Mick,s and Keith,s soloworks,just some of it.Wandering Spirit is a very good album,almost a classic,rest of soloalbums of Mick and Keith is easy forgettable.Almost never play any of these albums anymore
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Some strange opinions here,people saying Party Doll is a bad song.
You have to be a Keithfan to say something like that.But it,s not so strange reading this on these sites.Many here just dont like Mick Jagger for some reasons.These peoples are not Stonesfans,just Keithfans.Personally i don,t like Much out of Mick,s and Keith,s soloworks,just some of it.Wandering Spirit is a very good album,almost a classic,rest of soloalbums of Mick and Keith is easy forgettable.Almost never play any of these albums anymore
I vomit when I hear that flute on Party Doll. Or whatever that sound is. Bagpipes for all it matters.
Mathijs
The harmonica..?
Penny whistle?
I think it might be both: whistle and fiddle. Those first lines "Yew yewsed ta be.."LOL
What's wrong with you all? It's a harmonica. There's fiddle in there too, but those lead lines are harmonica. Harp.
Paddy Molesey plays the whistle and Uillean pipes. I don't think Mick's harp was the instrument that made Mathijs puke
I've seen harlem shuffle make a similar point in other threads...he seems to mistakenly think that hardcore Keith fans hates Mick with a passion for some reason.Quote
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Some strange opinions here,people saying Party Doll is a bad song.
You have to be a Keithfan to say something like that.But it,s not so strange reading this on these sites.Many here just dont like Mick Jagger for some reasons.These peoples are not Stonesfans,just Keithfans.Personally i don,t like Much out of Mick,s and Keith,s soloworks,just some of it.Wandering Spirit is a very good album,almost a classic,rest of soloalbums of Mick and Keith is easy forgettable.Almost never play any of these albums anymore
To have such a dim idea of what constitutes a fan of someone is revealing.
Not that you're trying.
For example, the fact that you think someone is a Keith fan because Party Doll is a shit song - and then saying they're not a Stones fan, just a person of the band fan, yet... you don't listen to their solo works and that it's all forgettable and you never play them anymore.
Brilliant rubbish by someone that loves DIRTY WORK and only sees less than one inch in front of their cartoon face.
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Some strange opinions here,people saying Party Doll is a bad song.
You have to be a Keithfan to say something like that.But it,s not so strange reading this on these sites.Many here just dont like Mick Jagger for some reasons.These peoples are not Stonesfans,just Keithfans.Personally i don,t like Much out of Mick,s and Keith,s soloworks,just some of it.Wandering Spirit is a very good album,almost a classic,rest of soloalbums of Mick and Keith is easy forgettable.Almost never play any of these albums anymore
I vomit when I hear that flute on Party Doll. Or whatever that sound is. Bagpipes for all it matters.
Mathijs
The harmonica..?
Penny whistle?
I think it might be both: whistle and fiddle. Those first lines "Yew yewsed ta be.."LOL
What's wrong with you all? It's a harmonica. There's fiddle in there too, but those lead lines are harmonica. Harp.
Paddy Molesey plays the whistle and Uillean pipes. I don't think Mick's harp was the instrument that made Mathijs puke
Duh - it's Matt Clifford playing harmonica through a snyth... to sound like fingernail on chalkboard bagflutes.
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Some strange opinions here,people saying Party Doll is a bad song.
You have to be a Keithfan to say something like that.But it,s not so strange reading this on these sites.Many here just dont like Mick Jagger for some reasons.These peoples are not Stonesfans,just Keithfans.Personally i don,t like Much out of Mick,s and Keith,s soloworks,just some of it.Wandering Spirit is a very good album,almost a classic,rest of soloalbums of Mick and Keith is easy forgettable.Almost never play any of these albums anymore
I vomit when I hear that flute on Party Doll. Or whatever that sound is. Bagpipes for all it matters.
Mathijs
The harmonica..?
Penny whistle?
I think it might be both: whistle and fiddle. Those first lines "Yew yewsed ta be.."LOL
What's wrong with you all? It's a harmonica. There's fiddle in there too, but those lead lines are harmonica. Harp.
Paddy Moloney plays the whistle and Uillean pipes. I don't think Mick's harp was the instrument that made Mathijs puke
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keefriff99I've seen harlem shuffle make a similar point in other threads...he seems to mistakenly think that hardcore Keith fans hates Mick with a passion for some reason.Quote
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Some strange opinions here,people saying Party Doll is a bad song.
You have to be a Keithfan to say something like that.But it,s not so strange reading this on these sites.Many here just dont like Mick Jagger for some reasons.These peoples are not Stonesfans,just Keithfans.Personally i don,t like Much out of Mick,s and Keith,s soloworks,just some of it.Wandering Spirit is a very good album,almost a classic,rest of soloalbums of Mick and Keith is easy forgettable.Almost never play any of these albums anymore
To have such a dim idea of what constitutes a fan of someone is revealing.
Not that you're trying.
For example, the fact that you think someone is a Keith fan because Party Doll is a shit song - and then saying they're not a Stones fan, just a person of the band fan, yet... you don't listen to their solo works and that it's all forgettable and you never play them anymore.
Brilliant rubbish by someone that loves DIRTY WORK and only sees less than one inch in front of their cartoon face.
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IMO. Say You will is a great,romanticsong.Betterthan Something or No Expectations.Would have liked to have heard Pavarotti cover it.
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No Mr Powderman i don,t say that.Whatever Jagger comes up with,Keith,s hangarounds find something terrible wrong about it.Same procedure every year,all the time.What,s next? Wandering Spirit,im pretty sure you find something terrible bad about that album alsow
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Mother of a man terrible?Not agree to that.Think not so good.Anyway best soloalbum by any Stonesmember is Wandering Spirit.But you see,if Jagger does a Stonessounding album,it,s bad.If he tries something else,alsow bad,Even without some people listen to it at all.Especially Keiths people here.I personally don,t like the she,the boss,Primitive cool and Goodess in the doorway.Some good songs on them,but not so interrested.Two first albums of Keith,not good at all,last one is better of course,but no classic at all.All of these albums almost newer played.Same with the tree or four last Stonesalbums.Not at all so good AS expected
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No Mr Powderman i don,t say that.Whatever Jagger comes up with,Keith,s hangarounds find something terrible wrong about it.Same procedure every year,all the time.What,s next? Wandering Spirit,im pretty sure you find something terrible bad about that album alsow
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Mother of a man terrible?Not agree to that.Think not so good.