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What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: IanBillen ()
Date: August 20, 2019 07:31

OK ... As it happened ... a person I knew was looking up HTW online .. I told this person put / search 'Honky Tonk Woman'. He responded that while this particular search would surely yield The Stones song .. as he recalled it was actually titled ... Honey Tonk 'Women' ... as he understood it.

I strongly disagreed in telling him that while they sing that word in the song (plural) .. the title is actually 'Honky Tonk Woman' (<<singular).. He asked if I was sure? I responded to this person .."I bought Hot Rocks when I was 11 and this is on it ... and to boot I have been A major Stones fan since I was 10 ...of COURSE I'm SURE!".

As it turns out the lyrics they actually sing as not only HT 'Women' (as I knew from hearing it most of my life) ... but the song is called that too. I thought it was simply titled 'Honky Tonk Woman' (singular) ...


How could I go through the decades with this major Stones staple ... especially in seeing them perform it live countless times .... and not F***G know the exact written title?????? I feel like a failure!

I initially told this person .."Look mate, The Stones are my band .. I know they sing 'Women' in the chorus but I think I should know the songs actual title ...which is actually Honky Tonk 'Woman'' ... (I was wrong ...as it turned out and much worse ...have been thinking this wrongly all along.....??). WTF is my problem ...?!?!... >> Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh .. .. .....


*Please forgive me for this .. amateur, inexcusable, monumental disappointment
.. I had to share this because it's therapeutic .. for I actually having been living life for 48 hours very mad at myself... .. ( ;o ).



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Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: August 20, 2019 07:46

Happens to the best of is Ian with various song titles, lyrics, etc. from many artists and bands.
Don't hate yourself or feel ashamed - you're forgiven. winking smiley

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"Rip this joint, gonna save your soul..."

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: IanBillen ()
Date: August 20, 2019 07:52

Quote
Hairball
Happens to the best of is Ian with various song titles, lyrics, etc. from many artists and bands.
Don't hate yourself or feel ashamed - you're forgiven. winking smiley


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I know it happens to all of us with titles .. lyrics .. etc... BUT this is The Stones .. a band I've studied .. listened to ... saw countless times... A band everyone I personally know would instantly identify me with ...


How could I have not known the actual written title of this Stones staple classic for 35 plus years??


Ohhhhhhhh my. Lol .... Ohhhhhhh my ....


I actually felt like a complete fool .. a poser .. (this person I met in public and he is a new buddy .. so he is not aware of The history I have with The Stones as my closer pals ...so he must of thought .. nice try guy .. you're not a real Stones FAN! hahahaha :/ :/ .... :/.

It doesn't matter what he thinks (he didnt make a big deal about it anyway).. what matters is I feel like a fool to 'myself'! Hahahahaha Ahhhhh shit -

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Date: August 20, 2019 08:03

Sacrilege!

Happens to a lot of us, Ian grinning smiley

Even the Stones have "Woman" on their setlists.

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: z ()
Date: August 20, 2019 08:07

You don't have much choice, Ian...claim for Dyslexia.

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: August 20, 2019 08:08

After thinking of Ian's dilemma for a couple of minutes, makes you wonder if he is a "true fan"?
Forget what I said in my previous post Ian, and hand in your badge immediately!!! angry smiley

grinning smiley

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"Rip this joint, gonna save your soul..."

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: Green Lady ()
Date: August 20, 2019 08:25

Then there's the question of whether or not there is a second i in Gimm(i)e Shelter - or a comma in Paint it, Black... Frankly, my dears, I don't give a damn (though I suspect the comma of being a simple misprint), and as for my True Fan's badge, I haven't got one. Don't worry, Ian.

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: RaahenTiikeri ()
Date: August 20, 2019 08:58

You're not the only one(with mixed emotions). My ex-wife still speaks about song called "honky tonk woman".
If i was asked, i'd say "paint it Black"...
I really know deep in my mind it is "paint it, Black"

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: August 20, 2019 09:02

I took away my own badge decades ago for not knowing the correct lyrics to Street Fighting Man and have never been able to earn it back, but I've since realized there's no need for it!

The reason? "My name is called disturbance" - didn't know it until I read it...could never quite make out the "called disturbance" part throughout my younger years.

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"Rip this joint, gonna save your soul..."




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Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: August 20, 2019 09:32

Its not you it's the title... It just seems to confuse people

Many folks have always called it the singular "Honky Tonk Woman".

It's weird really .



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Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: z ()
Date: August 20, 2019 10:02

Quote
Spud
Its not you it's the title.

Many folks have always called it the singular "Honky Tonk Woman".

It's weird really .

Why weird? Mick was never monogamic.

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: August 20, 2019 10:57

If its any comfort Ian … just be thankful
you weren't on a world wide TV quiz show with
all your friends watching and your expert topic was The Rolling Stones …….

ROCKMAN

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: August 20, 2019 11:14

Nothing wrong with you IanBillen,

Honky Tonk WOMAN it is (I do still have the original vinyl single) no matter what Mick sings live or even on the record for that matter. The devorcee and ballroom queen are singular anyway.
I had similar discussions about "Some Girls", where the lyrics say "Chinese", but no matter how often (decades now) I listen to the record, I can't help but hearing Mick sing "Japanese". Besides, I haven't seen many Chinese girls wearing a kimono (not counting the old days) in our postwar world. Japanse girls still wear them a lot. But ..... CHINESE is it grinning smiley

smileys with beer

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: IanBillen ()
Date: August 20, 2019 11:49

Thanks Everyone ..

I know many people say 'Honky Tonk Woman' ... and this is bc I thought it was
the actual title of the song .. though he sang it plural.

Oh my .. the game show scenario thought was brought up would be horrifying ..
All my friends would be like ...'Ian .. what happend up there guy? .. ..'.


As for Mr. Hairball = I will not turn in my badge .. not without a fair trial Mr. Hairball ..

Sure.. I've admitted saying it in print .. but the actual conversation was not taped / recorded. In a court of law I could / would deny the conversation ever took place and that I thought this message board was a fantasy board ( ... grinning smiley ).

I will not step down Sir ... and I won't go down .. not without fighting ... all the way to the bottom - ( Ha moody smiley ).



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Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: August 20, 2019 12:12

Take your choice............



or.............


Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: August 20, 2019 12:23

…. You shouldn't take it so hard ……

ROCKMAN

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: ab ()
Date: August 20, 2019 12:26

You might have bought the wrong vowel, dude! Go back home to live in the basement at Mum's. Curl up into a fetal position and never come out of it. Life as you know it is OVER! Your credibility is in a festival portapotty -- and a ripe, fragrant, hasn't been serviced in days festival portapotty at that.

But there's hope: paint a giant E on your chest and do a naked, preshow Cersei Lannister type Walk of Shame through the stadium parking lot of an upcoming show on the current tour. Allow yourself to be mocked and pelted with beer and munchies by random Shadoobies! Repent!

Then again, don't. Because each one has been used on various pressings/versions, htw is a case where both are right.



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Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: His Majesty ()
Date: August 20, 2019 13:36

You are obviously meant to be a Beatles fan. spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

...

The Brian Jones Resource

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: keithsman ()
Date: August 20, 2019 14:02

Or as Mick sings it live Hawnkey Taunk Wowmaan

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: August 20, 2019 14:09

Quote
EddieByword
Take your choice............



or.............



The purple label appears to be of a later date (if official). Could be an "almost perfect bootleg". Same "flipside" song?

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: schwonek ()
Date: August 20, 2019 14:40

True. And both versions are ok with the Stones.




Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: August 20, 2019 14:41

Well, I have always had difficulties with "Jumpin' Jack Flash", since the cover of LOVE YOU LIVE says they have a similar sounding song called "Jumping Jack Flash"...

EDIT: as seemingly the setlist in Lisboa above does!

- Doxa



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Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Date: August 20, 2019 14:57

And we haven't even started with the Gimmie/Gimme Shelter-variations yet...

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: August 20, 2019 15:21

But isn't Honky Tonk Woman the right one? At least that is what I hear Jagger singing. Remember women is pronounced wimmen in the word of English.
I don't hear him singing wimmen. But maybe he does?

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: stickyfingers101 ()
Date: August 20, 2019 15:21

isn't there also some discussion of "Paint it Black" vs. "Paint it, Black"

comma....no comma?

what say you?

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: August 20, 2019 15:35

If Brown Sugar is spelled Brown Suger you know it's a Japanese bootleg (I know since I own that one...).

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Date: August 20, 2019 15:39

Quote
Stoneage
But isn't Honky Tonk Woman the right one? At least that is what I hear Jagger singing. Remember women is pronounced wimmen in the word of English.
I don't hear him singing wimmen. But maybe he does?

No it's "It's the Honky tonk women", hence Honky Tonk Women smiling smiley

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Date: August 20, 2019 15:40

Quote
stickyfingers101
isn't there also some discussion of "Paint it Black" vs. "Paint it, Black"

comma....no comma?

what say you?

Definitely comma! winking smiley

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: August 20, 2019 15:55

It would take too long to explain, Ian.

Re: What's Wrong With Me? ..
Posted by: maumau ()
Date: August 20, 2019 16:02

a word from roger

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