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What NFL stadiums have been missed between Zipcode and the recent tour? LA has been mentioned but what markets will make up the 15-17 stops this time? Will baseball stadiums be put back into the mix?
No baseball stadiums. The stage is too large. Only football stadiums and festivals.
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What NFL stadiums have been missed between Zipcode and the recent tour? LA has been mentioned but what markets will make up the 15-17 stops this time? Will baseball stadiums be put back into the mix?
No baseball stadiums. The stage is too large. Only football stadiums and festivals.
Since the stage is setup in the outfield, pretty sure the current set up would fit? The massive Bigger Bang and Bridges stages were both at Dodger stadium.
Either way, hope for no baseball stadiums - the layout is weird, and the sightlines are horrible for those on the extreme sides.
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What NFL stadiums have been missed between Zipcode and the recent tour? LA has been mentioned but what markets will make up the 15-17 stops this time? Will baseball stadiums be put back into the mix?
No baseball stadiums. The stage is too large. Only football stadiums and festivals.
Since the stage is setup in the outfield, pretty sure the current set up would fit? The massive Bigger Bang and Bridges stages were both at Dodger stadium.
Either way, hope for no baseball stadiums - the layout is weird, and the sightlines are horrible for those on the extreme sides.
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What NFL stadiums have been missed between Zipcode and the recent tour? LA has been mentioned but what markets will make up the 15-17 stops this time? Will baseball stadiums be put back into the mix?
No baseball stadiums. The stage is too large. Only football stadiums and festivals.
Since the stage is setup in the outfield, pretty sure the current set up would fit? The massive Bigger Bang and Bridges stages were both at Dodger stadium.
Either way, hope for no baseball stadiums - the layout is weird, and the sightlines are horrible for those on the extreme sides.
I think the sight lines would actually be slightly better in baseball fields, the side stage seats wouldn't be as extreme where you can't see the middle screens.
I'm guessing one reason they went with NFL stadiums is the rectangular "phone screen shape" aesthetic that was mentioned multiple times in the stage design by stufish. Also another big one is capacity, most baseball stadiums are smaller, dodger stadium being the largest at 56,000.
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They will play wherever the money is. One thing you're guaranteed is the same old songs.
Just curious. If you have an issue with that, why are you here?
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They could theoretically fit the No Filter stage into baseball stadiums but the layout and aesthetic was designed with football and soccer stadiums in mind. It would be difficult to see the screens from the side stands and anyway, they can fit far more people into a football stadium which means a higher box office tally.
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If you think about it, in 2019 they did 17 shows:
13 NFL stadiums
1 college football stadium
2 Festivals (counting Jazz Fest, which got cancelled and wound up being held in an NFL stadium)
They obviously had a deal in place with the NFL, to do the shirts with the football team logos. Knowing how the NFL works, you don't make a deal like that for only SOME of the NFL teams, you have to make a merchandise deal like that for the WHOLE NFL, meaning ALL the NFL teams.
So it makes sense to go back and do the remaining other 18 NFL stadiums, 18 shows. Or maybe they skip 1 or 2 of the NFL stadiums in lesser markets, plus they can also skip Oakland because they already did Levis Stadium in that market.
So that's 17 shows:
BUFFALO
KANSAS CITYOAKLAND
L.A.
BALTIMORE
CLEVELAND
PITTSBURGH
CINCINATTI
INDIANAPOLIS
NASHVILLE
DALLAS
PHILLY
GREEN BAY
MINNEAPOLIS
DETROIT
CHARLOTTE, N CAROLINA
TAMPA BAY, FL
GEORGIA DOME, ATLANTA GA
That looks like a pretty good list to me. Interesting coverage of the US -- it pretty much hits every major place or region that they missed the last time.
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Kansas City will not happen. Tickets did not sell well at all on the Zip Code Tour. Thousands of seats were available just a few days before the show. Floor seats in the first five rows were going for $225 each. They sold every other row in some of the lower sections to make it seem more full. I would not count on Kansas City. St Louis before KC
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They will play wherever the money is. One thing you're guaranteed is the same old songs.
Just curious. If you have an issue with that, why are you here?
Expressing an opinion on a forum - do you have an issue?
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Kansas City will not happen. Tickets did not sell well at all on the Zip Code Tour. Thousands of seats were available just a few days before the show. Floor seats in the first five rows were going for $225 each. They sold every other row in some of the lower sections to make it seem more full. I would not count on Kansas City. St Louis before KC
Fair enough. But so many people said the same exact thing about New Orleans (sold terribly in 1994, that the Stones would never ever play New Orleans again) and sure enough they came back and the New Orleans show did GREAT for them this tour. The Dome was packed to the ceiling. You really can't judge from past tours anymore....the NFL sponsorship tie-ins, the Lucky Dips, the flex pricing and secondary ticket sites have changed all that.
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If you think about it, in 2019 they did 17 shows:
13 NFL stadiums
1 college football stadium
2 Festivals (counting Jazz Fest, which got cancelled and wound up being held in an NFL stadium)
They obviously had a deal in place with the NFL, to do the shirts with the football team logos. Knowing how the NFL works, you don't make a deal like that for only SOME of the NFL teams, you have to make a merchandise deal like that for the WHOLE NFL, meaning ALL the NFL teams.
So it makes sense to go back and do the remaining other 18 NFL stadiums, 18 shows. Or maybe they skip 1 or 2 of the NFL stadiums in lesser markets, plus they can also skip Oakland because they already did Levis Stadium in that market.
So that's 17 shows:
BUFFALO
KANSAS CITYOAKLAND
L.A.
BALTIMORE
CLEVELAND
PITTSBURGH
CINCINATTI
INDIANAPOLIS
NASHVILLE
DALLAS
PHILLY
GREEN BAY
MINNEAPOLIS
DETROIT
CHARLOTTE, N CAROLINA
TAMPA BAY, FL
GEORGIA DOME, ATLANTA GA
That looks like a pretty good list to me. Interesting coverage of the US -- it pretty much hits every major place or region that they missed the last time.
Kansas City will not happen. Tickets did not sell well at all on the Zip Code Tour. Thousands of seats were available just a few days before the show. Floor seats in the first five rows were going for $225 each. They sold every other row in some of the lower sections to make it seem more full. I would not count on Kansas City. St Louis before KC
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If you think about it, in 2019 they did 17 shows:
13 NFL stadiums
1 college football stadium
2 Festivals (counting Jazz Fest, which got cancelled and wound up being held in an NFL stadium)
They obviously had a deal in place with the NFL, to do the shirts with the football team logos. Knowing how the NFL works, you don't make a deal like that for only SOME of the NFL teams, you have to make a merchandise deal like that for the WHOLE NFL, meaning ALL the NFL teams.
So it makes sense to go back and do the remaining other 18 NFL stadiums, 18 shows. Or maybe they skip 1 or 2 of the NFL stadiums in lesser markets, plus they can also skip Oakland because they already did Levis Stadium in that market.
So that's 17 shows:
BUFFALO
KANSAS CITYOAKLAND
L.A.
BALTIMORE
CLEVELAND
PITTSBURGH
CINCINATTI
INDIANAPOLIS
NASHVILLE
DALLAS
PHILLY
GREEN BAY
MINNEAPOLIS
DETROIT
CHARLOTTE, N CAROLINA
TAMPA BAY, FL
GEORGIA DOME, ATLANTA GA
That looks like a pretty good list to me. Interesting coverage of the US -- it pretty much hits every major place or region that they missed the last time.
Kansas City will not happen. Tickets did not sell well at all on the Zip Code Tour. Thousands of seats were available just a few days before the show. Floor seats in the first five rows were going for $225 each. They sold every other row in some of the lower sections to make it seem more full. I would not count on Kansas City. St Louis before KC
1 show in the western US Philly and LA only duplicated markets and nothing in the northeastern seaboard (sorry Buffalo is not that market) doesn't seem to make sense.
It wouldn't surprise me if a number of the bigger markets that sold well will get another visit. The list above has more Jacksonville and Tempe's than NY, Chicago and SF's where there are larger populations to pay the big dollars for tickets. I would also think Canada gets more love this time around although that's not my first preference.
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What NFL stadiums have been missed between Zipcode and the recent tour? LA has been mentioned but what markets will make up the 15-17 stops this time? Will baseball stadiums be put back into the mix?
No baseball stadiums. The stage is too large. Only football stadiums and festivals.
Since the stage is setup in the outfield, pretty sure the current set up would fit? The massive Bigger Bang and Bridges stages were both at Dodger stadium.
Either way, hope for no baseball stadiums - the layout is weird, and the sightlines are horrible for those on the extreme sides.
I think the sight lines would actually be slightly better in baseball fields, the side stage seats wouldn't be as extreme where you can't see the middle screens.
I'm guessing one reason they went with NFL stadiums is the rectangular "phone screen shape" aesthetic that was mentioned multiple times in the stage design by stufish. Also another big one is capacity, most baseball stadiums are smaller, dodger stadium being the largest at 56,000.
Evidently you haven't seen them in a baseball stadium erbissell?
The sightlines from the sides are much further away from the stage than they are in a football stadium - horrible.
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Kansas City will not happen. Tickets did not sell well at all on the Zip Code Tour. Thousands of seats were available just a few days before the show. Floor seats in the first five rows were going for $225 each. They sold every other row in some of the lower sections to make it seem more full. I would not count on Kansas City. St Louis before KC
Fair enough. But so many people said the same exact thing about New Orleans (sold terribly in 1994, that the Stones would never ever play New Orleans again) and sure enough they came back and the New Orleans show did GREAT for them this tour. The Dome was packed to the ceiling. You really can't judge from past tours anymore....the NFL sponsorship tie-ins, the Lucky Dips, the flex pricing and secondary ticket sites have changed all that.
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I suppose it does depend on the overall layout of the baseball stadium and where the stage is placed, as well as personal preference.
I've also seen the Stones several times at AT&T Park (formerly PacBell, SBC, etc., etc), as well many other baseball stadiums. Also quite few football stadiums including L.A. Coliseum, Rose Bowl, Levis, Oakland Coliseum. As a personal rule, I'd much rather see them in a football stadium, but have always been sure to avoid side views - and was lucky with Lucky Dips and wasn't placed there. At the same time, I've never had extreme side view seats at a baseball stadium, but have heard from others who have (specifically Dodger stadium and Angels stadium) - not a great perspective. Ultimately, the sport of baseball and rock and roll don't really gel well or have much in common imo ha, and while I am a fan of baseball, it seems odd seeing rock and roll concerts in those odd shaped venues.
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Kansas City will not happen. Tickets did not sell well at all on the Zip Code Tour. Thousands of seats were available just a few days before the show. Floor seats in the first five rows were going for $225 each. They sold every other row in some of the lower sections to make it seem more full. I would not count on Kansas City. St Louis before KC
Fair enough. But so many people said the same exact thing about New Orleans (sold terribly in 1994, that the Stones would never ever play New Orleans again) and sure enough they came back and the New Orleans show did GREAT for them this tour. The Dome was packed to the ceiling. You really can't judge from past tours anymore....the NFL sponsorship tie-ins, the Lucky Dips, the flex pricing and secondary ticket sites have changed all that.
In 1989, the sold out TWO shows in Indianapolis then in 1994 no one showed up, so they didn't go back until 2015. It's weird how sales go.
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It took awhile for the Voodoo Lounge tour to pick up steam. They were supposed to 3-4 at the Rose Bowl and that got whittled down to 2.
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They will play wherever the money is. One thing you're guaranteed is the same old songs.
Just curious. If you have an issue with that, why are you here?
Expressing an opinion on a forum - do you have an issue?
No issue with it but just seems bizarre to hang out in a place where you don't seem to have anything but a negative interest.
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They will play wherever the money is. One thing you're guaranteed is the same old songs.
Just curious. If you have an issue with that, why are you here?
Expressing an opinion on a forum - do you have an issue?
No issue with it but just seems bizarre to hang out in a place where you don't seem to have anything but a negative interest.
I think it is rather bizarre that you are so concerned about someone expressing an opinion that you deem to be negative. Do you feel the need to banish those who express an opinion that runs counter to yours? Plenty to praise and criticise about the Stones' current modus operandi if you are objective.
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Kansas City will not happen. Tickets did not sell well at all on the Zip Code Tour. Thousands of seats were available just a few days before the show. Floor seats in the first five rows were going for $225 each. They sold every other row in some of the lower sections to make it seem more full. I would not count on Kansas City. St Louis before KC
Fair enough. But so many people said the same exact thing about New Orleans (sold terribly in 1994, that the Stones would never ever play New Orleans again) and sure enough they came back and the New Orleans show did GREAT for them this tour. The Dome was packed to the ceiling. You really can't judge from past tours anymore....the NFL sponsorship tie-ins, the Lucky Dips, the flex pricing and secondary ticket sites have changed all that.
Dome was packed? They drew 35000! Wouldn't call that packed.
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Kansas City will not happen. Tickets did not sell well at all on the Zip Code Tour. Thousands of seats were available just a few days before the show. Floor seats in the first five rows were going for $225 each. They sold every other row in some of the lower sections to make it seem more full. I would not count on Kansas City. St Louis before KC
Fair enough. But so many people said the same exact thing about New Orleans (sold terribly in 1994, that the Stones would never ever play New Orleans again) and sure enough they came back and the New Orleans show did GREAT for them this tour. The Dome was packed to the ceiling. You really can't judge from past tours anymore....the NFL sponsorship tie-ins, the Lucky Dips, the flex pricing and secondary ticket sites have changed all that.
Dome was packed? They drew 35000! Wouldn't call that packed.
I was at that show in pit 2 and the stadium did look packed- but even the Stones listed the attendance at 35000. It was one of the strangest damn things I’ve ever seen.
I’ve Been going to concerts for five decades and I would’ve given you 50 to 1 odds on a bet that there were 65000 people there.
No matter, it was an epic show. After So many years you sort them out, some were a fun night out, some were unforgettable. Even BV mentioned it, that NOLA 2019 gig had a vibe about it.
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If you think about it, in 2019 they did 17 shows:
13 NFL stadiums
1 college football stadium
2 Festivals (counting Jazz Fest, which got cancelled and wound up being held in an NFL stadium)
They obviously had a deal in place with the NFL, to do the shirts with the football team logos. Knowing how the NFL works, you don't make a deal like that for only SOME of the NFL teams, you have to make a merchandise deal like that for the WHOLE NFL, meaning ALL the NFL teams.
So it makes sense to go back and do the remaining other 18 NFL stadiums, 18 shows. Or maybe they skip 1 or 2 of the NFL stadiums in lesser markets, plus they can also skip Oakland because they already did Levis Stadium in that market.
So that's 17 shows:
BUFFALO
KANSAS CITYOAKLAND
L.A.
BALTIMORE
CLEVELAND
PITTSBURGH
CINCINATTI
INDIANAPOLIS
NASHVILLE
DALLAS
PHILLY
GREEN BAY
MINNEAPOLIS
DETROIT
CHARLOTTE, N CAROLINA
TAMPA BAY, FL
GEORGIA DOME, ATLANTA GA
That looks like a pretty good list to me. Interesting coverage of the US -- it pretty much hits every major place or region that they missed the last time.