Think I read somewhere Charlie quoting Ventilator Blues for drums... Indeed, it's terrific...

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Watts said in 2003, “We always rehearse ‘Ventilator Blues’ [for tours]. It’s a great track, but we never play it as well as the original. Something will not be quite right; either Keith will play it a bit differently or I’ll do it wrong. It’s a fabulous number, but a bit of a tricky one. Bobby Keys wrote the rhythm part, which is the clever part of the song. Bobby said, ‘Why don’t you do this?’ and I said, ‘I can’t play that,’ so Bobby stood next me to clapping the thing and I just followed his timing. In the world of Take Five, it’s nothing, but it threw me completely and Bobby just stood there and clapped while we were doing the track - and we've never quite got it together as well as that.”[4]?

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A lot but 2000 Lights Years From Home needs to be mentioned............

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agree on 2000 light years.

but my favorite is on Midnight Rambler when he does that double punch at 6:33

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I like the irregular cymbals on Angie.
I like that the tempo of HTW speeds up throughout and Keith and Charlie stay connected.
I like the little hiccup at the end of Rocks Off -- he seems to lose the thread but gets it back right away.

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I like the irregular cymbals on Angie.
I like that the tempo of HTW speeds up throughout and Keith and Charlie stay connected.
I like the little hiccup at the end of Rocks Off -- he seems to lose the thread but gets it back right away.

Not sure if this is what you mean, but there are 3-4 times during the song where right after Jagger goes "Angie" Charlie gives an off-beat open hi-hat that closes on the beat, where a snare should be. You can actually see Mick make a special move to this thing in the official video (the one with the hat). He loves it...
I think the hi-hat is Charlie's secret weapon. Not many rock drummers I hear do the things he does with it. Within fills too...many of them spend too much on tom-toms while Charlie invests in the hi-hat.

Too many to count...

In Slave, at 5:00 there's kind of a break down and Charlie is just hitting the cymbals for a little bit. Then the song starts to pick up steam again and at 5:42 he plays a powerful fill. That whole part is really cool.

Get off my Cloud, Complicated, Slave, If you can't Rock me , etc.. yep list is countless

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when the Stones play GOOMC live it is imperative that the drum rolls are played and out front Drums drive that song. Of course, like Hopkins says there are many elements to that song. However, the drum rolls are critical.


Complicated is great too. Many Stones fans are unaware or simply dismiss this great 60s type suave song.

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I like the irregular cymbals on Angie.
I like that the tempo of HTW speeds up throughout and Keith and Charlie stay connected.
I like the little hiccup at the end of Rocks Off -- he seems to lose the thread but gets it back right away.

Not sure if this is what you mean, but there are 3-4 times during the song where right after Jagger goes "Angie" Charlie gives an off-beat open hi-hat that closes on the beat, where a snare should be. You can actually see Mick make a special move to this thing in the official video (the one with the hat). He loves it...
I think the hi-hat is Charlie's secret weapon. Not many rock drummers I hear do the things he does with it. Within fills too...many of them spend too much on tom-toms while Charlie invests in the hi-hat.

Yes. Stated much better. I knew it came at an offbeat time.

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I love Charlie's missing snare beats. There are few songs on which he simply skips one snare hit. I'm not sure if it's intentional, but it is very effective...
Wild Horses at 3:30 ; Miss You at 3:14...
There are more, can't remember right now...

That is great stuff. Love the "Wild Horses" catch. I cant find the one in 'Miss You". There are several official versions anyway.
And you remind me of the whole lifting his stick off the Hi Hat deal. IMO that has been blown out of proportion. he doesn't do it all that often, and it didn;'t make a huge impact.

Really? As far as I can see, that's ALL he does when it comes to his hi-hat/snare technique.

I've seen him hit the hi-hat in conjunction with his snare a handful of times since, say, 1989, but it's very very rare.

I'm sure you right. In the late era I don't follow them as close anymore where I used to memorize every second of everything they did. And it's kind of a drag because every time I see them I ask myself "Why am I going around saying they're not as hot live as they used to be, because invariably they are."
But in '94 I was on the stage behind Charlie, and I watched him for most of the show, an he just was not doing the Hi Hat thing much.

All the live videos from the VOODOO tour show him holding off the hi-hat for the snare. He does it on practically everything and has been for eons.

He started doing that during the SOME GIRLS sessions.

His heavy double kick beat style that's so excellent on GET YER YA-YA'S OUT! started with, as I recall, We Love You/THEIR SATANIC MAJESTIES REQUEST through BLACK AND BLUE.

One of his finest recordings is She's So Cold. That is perfection.

Probably my favorite roll, like how he started Start Me Up in 1989-90 is when they come back in from the breakdown in Tie Me Up - it's one room mic, apparently in the back of the studio, I read somewhere, that is used just for that roll and it's awesome.

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he's pretty much slamming the kit the whole time here.
his 'parts' are fills, it seems; to me it seems like that natural
propulsive thing that I sometimes reference in relation so Bill,
in this essential 3 man rhythm section; 4 man when all cylinders pumping;
and that goes for Brian, Mick T., and Ron years, imo, as well.

the fills are delicious; pardon me for saying symphonic, this is a song
that ends up in seemingly sick monkeys yip yapping in bursts...
but Charlie is all over that spare kit here; and my feeling is that
it's a very emotional performance; that he was invested in it;
whether keeping up or leading deftly with all that punctuation is
not for me to figure out and know for sure...
...but imo it's a very striking drum performance pretty much all through;
and it seems like he near bursting waiting for another chance to ride the funk groove that Keith is blistering through; i love this track. the sound effects; its really a great production and the drums kill.



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Rocks Off beginning.

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You can't always get..., it's only rock"n'roll...

Last seconds of Star star on Goats head soup. 5 or 6 chrashes in a row...

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IORR really? Nothing at all great about the drumming on it, pretty bog standard in my opinion, I know Charlie said he thought Kenny Jones was fine on it but I wish he would have had a go.

All Down The Line from Fort Worth 1978. (or any 1978's gig). Just plain perfection.

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IORR really? Nothing at all great about the drumming on it, pretty bog standard in my opinion, I know Charlie said he thought Kenny Jones was fine on it but I wish he would have had a go.

yeah Ket agree. the rest of the song is on the boring side too.

Toward the end of Shattered when the grove is starting to get a little long in the tooth Charlie throws in a nice energetic fill to ramp the song back up. The coolest part for me was throwing in the hi hat wash then close right after the initial fill at 3:16. It just works great and only Charlie would play it like this. video: [m.youtube.com]

For a great live fill check out The Neighbors fill at the end of the sax solo. Perfection tying in with Mick's neighbors! Neighbors! Neighbors!
Listen about 2:20
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For a great live fill check out The Neighbors fill at the end of the sax solo. Perfection tying in with Mick's neighbors! Neighbors! Neighbors!
Listen about 2:20
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Neighbours is the only song, unless someone else knows other, where the cymbals are muted through most of the song.

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For a great live fill check out The Neighbors fill at the end of the sax solo. Perfection tying in with Mick's neighbors! Neighbors! Neighbors!
Listen about 2:20
video: [m.youtube.com]

Neighbours is the only song, unless someone else knows other, where the cymbals are muted through most of the song.

And the snare is inaudible on Luxury...

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For a great live fill check out The Neighbors fill at the end of the sax solo. Perfection tying in with Mick's neighbors! Neighbors! Neighbors!
Listen about 2:20
video: [m.youtube.com]

Neighbours is the only song, unless someone else knows other, where the cymbals are muted through most of the song.

And the snare is inaudible on Luxury...

Isn't Charlie playing the snare rim with the butt of his stick?

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For a great live fill check out The Neighbors fill at the end of the sax solo. Perfection tying in with Mick's neighbors! Neighbors! Neighbors!
Listen about 2:20
video: [m.youtube.com]

Neighbours is the only song, unless someone else knows other, where the cymbals are muted through most of the song.

And the snare is inaudible on Luxury...

Isn't Charlie playing the snare rim with the butt of his stick?

It's hard to decipher in that mix, isn't it?

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For a great live fill check out The Neighbors fill at the end of the sax solo. Perfection tying in with Mick's neighbors! Neighbors! Neighbors!
Listen about 2:20
video: [m.youtube.com]

Neighbours is the only song, unless someone else knows other, where the cymbals are muted through most of the song.

And the snare is inaudible on Luxury...

Isn't Charlie playing the snare rim with the butt of his stick?

It's hard to decipher in that mix, isn't it?

It is, but I just re-listened and I think that's what Charlie's doing...I guess the technical term is "cross-stick" or "rim-click".