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ZZ Top is another band that does the VIP/photo/meet and greet, and more often than not I've heard it was a lame experience.
They don't talk and are basically just mannequins wheeled out for fans to pose with, and immediately whisked away.

I did one once with a major touring artist that I somehow ended up with for free and while it was an interesting experience (mostly her personal security guard who was wanding people and asking the women "look me in the eye and tell me what you have in your purse?"), no way I could ever see paying for something like that.

I also heard someone freaked out Justin Bieber so much that he immediately stopped doing them. Like he won't missed the million he will make but the manager was really looking forward to his ten percent.

Also my favorite is Phil Collen from Def Leppard married this Live Nation rep who manages M&G, she is black and she flips out and runs interference whenever a black chick shows up at one of these.

I know it’s part of the job when you have big fame,
but it must get old after the 500th time of being sized up like prime beef,
gaped at/ OMG I CAN’T BELIEVE IT OMG,
yeah yeah yeah
unless you’re
Engelbert Humperdinck
that dude seems to still thrive on all the oldie groupies

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The Aerosmith meet and greets are nothing new as they have been doing this for years. Last tour I think the cost was $2500.00 which I believe included tix in the first 10 rows or something like that. There used to be pics on the Aerosmith website and Joe Perry looks miserable having to pose with fans. Rarely smiles. I have read he hates those things.

Of course he could always say no. Tommy Lee and Neil Peart refuse to do them.

No doubt Dan but maybe the $$$ is too good to turn down. Not sure hoe many of the VIP packages they sell but if they sell 10- 20 of them at $2500.00 a pop that is an additional $25K- 50K for about an hours work if you can call it that.

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Aerosmith ROCKED! the Jimmy Fallon show last night.
Much better performance then the Today show.
These guys can still bring it.

[www.billboard.com]

They still sound great and Steven Tyler is ageless. His voice has more grit to it now but still sounds fantastic.

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The Aerosmith meet and greets are nothing new as they have been doing this for years. Last tour I think the cost was $2500.00 which I believe included tix in the first 10 rows or something like that. There used to be pics on the Aerosmith website and Joe Perry looks miserable having to pose with fans. Rarely smiles. I have read he hates those things.

Of course he could always say no. Tommy Lee and Neil Peart refuse to do them.

No doubt Dan but maybe the $$$ is too good to turn down. Not sure hoe many of the VIP packages they sell but if they sell 10- 20 of them at $2500.00 a pop that is an additional $25K- 50K for about an hours work if you can call it that.

Back when I had my High School McJob one of the biggest complaints was I couldn't even act interested, but at $5 an hour the money was too good to turn down.

Steven Tyler Demands Trump Stop Playing Aerosmith Songs at Rallies

"As we have made clear numerous times, Mr. Trump is creating the false impression that ourclient has given his consent for the use of his music, and even that he endorses the presidency of Mr. Trump. By using “Livin’ On The Edge” without our client’s permission, Mr. Trump is falsely implying that our client, once again, endorses his campaign and/or his presidency, as evidenced by actual confusion seen from the reactions of our client’s fans all over social media."
[www.yahoo.com]

Good on Steven for re-upping his "cease and desist" demand that cites new legal grounds to do so. Tough not to get political on a topic like this, but purely as an artists rights issue this is not one that's not relevant to the stones.
They played "Sympathy for the Devil" at the event yesterday, ironically.

Hope Aerosmith prevails.

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Steven Tyler Demands Trump Stop Playing Aerosmith Songs at Rallies

"As we have made clear numerous times, Mr. Trump is creating the false impression that ourclient has given his consent for the use of his music, and even that he endorses the presidency of Mr. Trump. By using “Livin’ On The Edge” without our client’s permission, Mr. Trump is falsely implying that our client, once again, endorses his campaign and/or his presidency, as evidenced by actual confusion seen from the reactions of our client’s fans all over social media."
[www.yahoo.com]

Good on Steven for re-upping his "cease and desist" demand that cites new legal grounds to do so. Tough not to get political on a topic like this, but purely as an artists rights issue this is not one that's not relevant to the stones.
They played "Sympathy for the Devil" at the event yesterday, ironically.

Hope Aerosmith prevails.

Supposedly there's a licensing mechanism that doesn't require artist approval. Most politicians comply if an artists ask them to stop, but...you know who we're dealing with here.

Yes...he is THE President of the United States of America.

BTW it looks like the residency is going to be a HOT TICKET!
Seating Chart shows a small PIT in front of the stage and ONSTAGE BAR seating.

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Supposedly there's a licensing mechanism that doesn't require artist approval. Most politicians comply if an artists ask them to stop, but...you know who we're dealing with here.

Familiar with the licensing issue(s) that allow it (public space, not using for profit etc.) But this new lawsuit tackles the issue a bit differently than before..

"Citing the Lanham Act, which prohibits “any false designation or misleading description or representation of fact … likely to cause confusion … as to the affiliation, connection, or association of such person with another person,”
[www.yahoo.com]

The pos hasn't exactly been on a roll when it comes to lawsuits lately, so again.. hope they prevail.

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Supposedly there's a licensing mechanism that doesn't require artist approval. Most politicians comply if an artists ask them to stop, but...you know who we're dealing with here.

And there's the fact that it was partially written by someone outside of the band - Mark Hudson. Don't know if he has a say in the matter, or what his political affiliation is,
but both Joe Perry and Steven Tyler are registered Republicans (maybe others in the band also?), so you have to wonder how much it really bothers them.

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If it didn't bother them "a lot" they wouldn't be litigating it and publicly demanding it.
Kinda how "bothered a lot" works. Read the article, it's interesting.

I don't get this. Can an artist refuse certain people to play or listen to their music? I know there are often issues with royalties and such. But beyond that?
Can The Rolling Stones prohibit Donald Trump, for instance, from using their music in his campaigns?

I always cringe when Trump finishes one of his rallies with "We will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!", the crowd goes wild, and then the choir in "You Can't Always Get What You Want" starts singing over the PA. I guess he means "You get what you need" but it sounds weird.

While I knew Steven Tyler was a Republican (along with Joe Perry) never realized he was such close buddies with the President.
Tyler was a judge for Trumps Miss America in 2013, and he was a special invitee to one of Trumps campaign rallies (along with other members of Aerosmith).

Here's what Tyler wrote in 2015 about Trump's use of Dream On:

From billboard: Steven Tyler Writes Copyright Essay After Donald Trump Song Drama

Tyler says his concerns with Trump using his song are not about politics, but fair compensation.

"My intent was not to make a political statement, but to make one about the rights of my fellow music creators.
Just as my record label sister, Taylor Swift, wrote her letter to Apple in June, this is my open letter to everyone.
We need change. Songwriters, producers and artists can't survive on what they are being paid."

Seems he has more of an issue with copyrighted material vs. any animosity towards Trump, but maybe he's changed his tune since then.
Whatever the case, wonder why the Stones don't follow suit as I repeatedly hear You Can't Always Get What You Want being played when CNN and other stations are covering Trumps current rallies.

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I always cringe when Trump finishes one of his rallies with "We will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!", the crowd goes wild, and then the choir in "You Can't Always Get What You Want" starts singing over the PA. I guess he means "You get what you need" but it sounds weird.

Yeah, I try to avoid hearing that as much as possible as it gives an odd meaning to the song, and don't like it being associated with any political party, but it's always on the news!

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My point simply is I don't care WHO the President is...he's not on any special plane of existence above "us mere mortals".

If an artist asks a politician to stop using their song (licensing fees or not), it should be common courtesy to stop, but that clearly doesn't apply to the petulant ass-hat occupying the office right now.

Same.
And an excellent point it was, several artists (including the stones) issued the same "cease and desist" request. Anyone with any integrity should have honored it.

This new legal tack by Aerosmith could set a precedent.

Fwiw, the expletive filled replies to your post are much more offensive than the post itself.

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Fwiw, the expletive filled replies to your post are much more offensive than the post itself.

wow...just wow.

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Fwiw, the expletive filled replies to your post are much more offensive than the post itself.

wow...just wow.

Yeah, not sure how saying someone has a "groveling, obsequious, boot-licking attitude" is less offensive than your replies.
But politics has a tendency to bring out the worst in certain people, especially from the extremists.

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Back on track...
Anyone see the Aerosmith on the MTV the other night?

video: [www.youtube.com]

Feel free to skip ahead to about 2:30

Dream On into Toys...they KICKED ASS! Even with Post Malone!

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Back on track...
Anyone see the Aerosmith on the MTV the other night?

video: [www.youtube.com]

Feel free to skip ahead to about 2:30

Dream On into Toys...they KICKED ASS! Even with Post Malone!

Imagine Adams Apple in a casino?

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Back on track...
Anyone see the Aerosmith on the MTV the other night?

video: [www.youtube.com]

Feel free to skip ahead to about 2:30

Dream On into Toys...they KICKED ASS! Even with Post Malone!

I did see them do Mama Kin on Fallon, I last saw Aerosmith back in 1999, but now I'm thinking about seeing them in Vegas next year.

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Back on track...
Anyone see the Aerosmith on the MTV the other night?

video: [www.youtube.com]

Feel free to skip ahead to about 2:30

Dream On into Toys...they KICKED ASS! Even with Post Malone!

I did see them do Mama Kin on Fallon, I last saw Aerosmith back in 1999, but now I'm thinking about seeing them in Vegas next year.

I saw them in '88 and they weren't very good (Guns'N'Roses opened and pretty much stole the show), but wouldn't mind seeing them again in a small Vegas venue despite not really liking them since the '70's.
Not sure how much of the latter era stuff they play live, but imagine if they did like the Stones and mostly played songs that are four decades old and a blues cover.
Rocks is probably my favorite of those early albums, but all of them up to Night in the Ruts had some great tunes.

Aerosmith - Combination

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Fwiw, the expletive filled replies to your post are much more offensive than the post itself.

wow...just wow.

Yeah, not sure how saying someone has a "groveling, obsequious, boot-licking attitude" is less offensive than your replies.
But politics has a tendency to bring out the worst in certain people, especially from the extremists.

I call them the wingnuts.the left wingnuts and the right wingnuts.they all seem really angry,
They will never explain exactly why they’re angry they just start insulting each other.

You can also count on them shoehorning these diatribes into any conversation,sky is really blue today.”Hillary wears a blue pantsuit,lock that bitch up “or-I’m flying to New York today-“Trumps from New York,impeach that orange haired bastard”
I treat them like this homeless guy I saw in the city a few weeks ago-he walked toward me saying “hey it’s you,hey it’s you”...back away slowly “cool bro it’s me,but I gotta go now ok?

That's why politics don't belong on a ROLLING STONES message board.....

Same culprits all the f'ing time. It just does not F'ing stop.

[iorr.org]



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More politics?

Wasn't this thread supposed to be about rock music and a Vegas residency?

False advertising!

Politics brings out the worst in people because it brings out the worst people.

Losers with low self-esteem who think they can enlarge themselves through a group identity.

May as well talk about pro wrestling.

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More politics?

Wasn't this thread supposed to be about rock music and a Vegas residency?

False advertising!

Politics brings out the worst in people because it brings out the worst people.

Losers with low self-esteem who think they can enlarge themselves through a group identity.

May as well talk about pro wrestling.

I started this thread nothing to do with politics,for the life of me can't understand some people,leave F---ng politics out,please read the rules of the board...Thank You

"No dope smoking no beer sold after 12 o'clock"

Triangular GA PIT inside the stage and VIP on STAGE seating with a bar in each area. General sale starts this morning.

The entire theater is supposed to be interactive/immersive with an in-studio feel...

I hate buying tickets so far in advance but these shows are looking mighty tempting.

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Back on track...
Anyone see the Aerosmith on the MTV the other night?

video: [www.youtube.com]

Feel free to skip ahead to about 2:30

Dream On into Toys...they KICKED ASS! Even with Post Malone!

I did see them do Mama Kin on Fallon, I last saw Aerosmith back in 1999, but now I'm thinking about seeing them in Vegas next year.

I saw them in '88 and they weren't very good (Guns'N'Roses opened and pretty much stole the show), but wouldn't mind seeing them again in a small Vegas venue despite not really liking them since the '70's.
Not sure how much of the latter era stuff they play live, but imagine if they did like the Stones and mostly played songs that are four decades old and a blues cover.
Rocks is probably my favorite of those early albums, but all of them up to Night in the Ruts had some great tunes.

Aerosmith - Combination

Interesting as we must have seen different shows back in 1988. I saw Aerosmith twice in 1988 with Guns opening at Mansfield, MA and Axl's voice was shot to the point where he was croaking out his vocals and the band was sloppy while Aerosmith was very good and tight.

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Back on track...
Anyone see the Aerosmith on the MTV the other night?

video: [www.youtube.com]

Feel free to skip ahead to about 2:30

Dream On into Toys...they KICKED ASS! Even with Post Malone!

I did see them do Mama Kin on Fallon, I last saw Aerosmith back in 1999, but now I'm thinking about seeing them in Vegas next year.

I saw them in '88 and they weren't very good (Guns'N'Roses opened and pretty much stole the show), but wouldn't mind seeing them again in a small Vegas venue despite not really liking them since the '70's.
Not sure how much of the latter era stuff they play live, but imagine if they did like the Stones and mostly played songs that are four decades old and a blues cover.
Rocks is probably my favorite of those early albums, but all of them up to Night in the Ruts had some great tunes.

Aerosmith - Combination

Interesting as we must have seen different shows back in 1988. I saw Aerosmith twice in 1988 with Guns opening at Mansfield, MA and Axl's voice was shot to the point where he was croaking out his vocals and the band was sloppy while Aerosmith was very good and tight.

Yeah different shows - I saw them at the Pacific Ampitheater in Costa Mesa, and it was the exact opposite. Being that it was towards the very end of the tour, Steven Tyler's voice was shot, and the band seemed like they'd rather be back home licking their wounds. Meanwhile, Guns were just getting warmed up in their career - still hungry, wild, and full of energy - a complete explosion on stage that left Aerosmith gasping in their dust.

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Back on track...
Anyone see the Aerosmith on the MTV the other night?

video: [www.youtube.com]

Feel free to skip ahead to about 2:30

Dream On into Toys...they KICKED ASS! Even with Post Malone!

I did see them do Mama Kin on Fallon, I last saw Aerosmith back in 1999, but now I'm thinking about seeing them in Vegas next year.

I saw them in '88 and they weren't very good (Guns'N'Roses opened and pretty much stole the show), but wouldn't mind seeing them again in a small Vegas venue despite not really liking them since the '70's.
Not sure how much of the latter era stuff they play live, but imagine if they did like the Stones and mostly played songs that are four decades old and a blues cover.
Rocks is probably my favorite of those early albums, but all of them up to Night in the Ruts had some great tunes.

Aerosmith - Combination

Interesting as we must have seen different shows back in 1988. I saw Aerosmith twice in 1988 with Guns opening at Mansfield, MA and Axl's voice was shot to the point where he was croaking out his vocals and the band was sloppy while Aerosmith was very good and tight.

Yeah different shows - I saw them at the Pacific Ampitheater in Costa Mesa, and it was the exact opposite. Being that it was towards the very end of the tour, Steven Tyler's voice was shot, and the band seemed like they'd rather be back home licking their wounds. Meanwhile, Guns were just getting warmed up in their career - still hungry, wild, and full of energy - a complete explosion on stage that left Aerosmith gasping in their dust.

Well, this just proves that both Steve and Axl are human ...