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will send a message to other bands who attempt to rob people.

It-Is-Not-The-Band(s)-That-Set-The-Price(s)-And-Rob-People.

-Oh-yes-it-is-because-the-band-insists-on-a-guaranteed-amount-which-means-the-ticket-prices-have-to-be-so-high-or-the-promoter-wont-make-money

But-do-we-know-for-a-fact-that-the-promoters-need-to-set-the-prices-this-high-to-be-able-to-make-a-profit? -Or-do-they-get-a-wee-greedy-since-they-know-that-stones-fans-will-pay-anything-to-see-their-band?

If a act is getting about $5 million a show as a guarantee in a 40,000 seater stadium, then something obviously has to give. Its a high risk for any promoter and a significant factor in why the band plays so few arena shows anymore.

Jagger admitted in an interview with Forbes magazine in October 2002 that the band decide on their own ticket prices. I doubt that's changed since then. Its likely that a promoter will decide what to charge for each category (and how many tickets to make available in each category) in order to get the best return on their investment but I seriously doubt the Stones leave the whole thing to the whim of the promoter. Both parties are obviously aware that some people are willing and/or able to pay ten times more for a ticket than others.

But yes, a promoter will take a chance on being greedy if they can get away with it - when they realise they cant, that's when you'll see something akin to a firesale to get rid of what tickets are left over.

For what its worth, aside from pit tickets and the middle ranges of seated tickets, I don't think the prices are that bad on this tour and the Lucky Dip system is a very good move.

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will send a message to other bands who attempt to rob people.

It-Is-Not-The-Band(s)-That-Set-The-Price(s)-And-Rob-People.

-Oh-yes-it-is-because-the-band-insists-on-a-guaranteed-amount-which-means-the-ticket-prices-have-to-be-so-high-or-the-promoter-wont-make-money

But-do-we-know-for-a-fact-that-the-promoters-need-to-set-the-prices-this-high-to-be-able-to-make-a-profit? -Or-do-they-get-a-wee-greedy-since-they-know-that-stones-fans-will-pay-anything-to-see-their-band?

If a act is getting about $5 million a show as a guarantee in a 40,000 seater stadium, then something obviously has to give. Its a high risk for any promoter and a significant factor in why the band plays so few arena shows anymore.

Jagger admitted in an interview with Forbes magazine in October 2002 that the band decide on their own ticket prices. I doubt that's changed since then. Its likely that a promoter will decide what to charge for each category (and how many tickets to make available in each category) in order to get the best return on their investment but I seriously doubt the Stones leave the whole thing to the whim of the promoter. Both parties are obviously aware that some people are willing and/or able to pay ten times more for a ticket than others.

But yes, a promoter will take a chance on being greedy if they can get away with it - when they realise they cant, that's when you'll see something akin to a firesale to get rid of what tickets are left over.

For what its worth, aside from pit tickets and the middle ranges of seated tickets, I don't think the prices are that bad on this tour and the Lucky Dip system is a very good move.

Bingo.

And yes there are some fair priced tickets (and the Lucky Dips system is great especially if the person who buys gets very lucky).
That said, it seems that tickets in Europe have always been less expensive than in the US. In the past I've seen people complain about how high the prices are at European shows and have to laugh because they're really getting a great deal when compared to US shows. Seems this time though, the Stones/promoters have broken the barrier of common sense and rational thinking and somehow thought outrageous prices ala US ticket prices would work in Europe - even raising it beyond the highest US prices (*Vegas '16 being the highest I've ever seen at $750+ fees). While still outrageous by any definition, at least those were in an arena (and a very mini tour of two shows - one cancelled), so you would think these giant outdoor stadium shows should be less expensive. But noooooooooooo....they're more expensive which is really a head scratcher, and this time around those who complain about the high priced tickets have every right to. Seems the poor sales are the result of this and rightfully so, and the voice of the people will hopefully not go unnoticed when other major bands (along with their promoters) contemplate the prices they set in the future.

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I don't know how on earth they came up with 799 Euros for PIT in Berlin. Absolutely nuts.

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I don't know how on earth they came up with 799 Euros for PIT in Berlin. Absolutely nuts.

Someone mentioned before that there are higher taxes for them to pay in Germany which in theory should reduce the ticket prices in Ireland because artists don't pay tax in Ireland I believe or at least that used to be the case.

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There will be $50 tickets outside every show!

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I don't know how on earth they came up with 799 Euros for PIT in Berlin. Absolutely nuts.

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There will be $50 tickets outside every show!

If that's the case its worth me driving between 3 and 5 hours to go to all the England shows.

In fact if that's true i will, certainly worth a try for 50 bucks.

It would also mean that the Stones are getting it wrong with ticket prices, maybe it would pay for them to drop the prices of all the dearer tickets and keep the price on the cheaper ones, that way they would all sell and there's no need to sell silly grab a bargain ones because they didn't all sell out.

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Tour after tour, year by year, more people gain an understanding of the "modern" selling tactics. Which means that more people are waiting for lower prices, until they see some of them. But the current "policy" is still profitable for both, band and promoters. (Whether we must call it fair policy, that's a different issue...). Because the grosses will be for sure bigger, than what they would be, if the prices were all reasonable, from the first days/weeks of the selling game. That's my opinion.

And if the stadiums will be packed again, the fact that the sales have been "slow" until the last weeks (or even the last days) I thing that means a big, loud "nothing"...

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Tour after tour, year by year, more people gain an understanding of the "modern" selling tactics. Which means that more people are waiting for lower prices, until they see some of them. But the current "policy" is still profitable for both, band and promoters. (Whether we must call it fair policy, that's a different issue...). Because the grosses will be for sure bigger, than what they would be, if the prices were all reasonable, from the first days/weeks of the selling game. That's my opinion.

And if the stadiums will be packed again, the fact that the sales have been "slow" until the last weeks (or even the last days) I thing that means a big, loud "nothing"...

it means no money to tge scalpers. Remember that we used to complain about scalpers before?

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£400 for the pit in London will always sell but for the shows in the other parts of the U.K maybe they are a harder sell but I would still expect all shows to be full or very close to full at showtime.

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Tour after tour, year by year, more people gain an understanding of the "modern" selling tactics. Which means that more people are waiting for lower prices, until they see some of them. But the current "policy" is still profitable for both, band and promoters. (Whether we must call it fair policy, that's a different issue...). Because the grosses will be for sure bigger, than what they would be, if the prices were all reasonable, from the first days/weeks of the selling game. That's my opinion.

And if the stadiums will be packed again, the fact that the sales have been "slow" until the last weeks (or even the last days) I thing that means a big, loud "nothing"...

it means no money to tge scalpers. Remember that we used to complain about scalpers before?

This is great news if this means that the scalpers are the ones losing this time!

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Tour after tour, year by year, more people gain an understanding of the "modern" selling tactics. Which means that more people are waiting for lower prices, until they see some of them. But the current "policy" is still profitable for both, band and promoters. (Whether we must call it fair policy, that's a different issue...). Because the grosses will be for sure bigger, than what they would be, if the prices were all reasonable, from the first days/weeks of the selling game. That's my opinion.

And if the stadiums will be packed again, the fact that the sales have been "slow" until the last weeks (or even the last days) I thing that means a big, loud "nothing"...

it means no money to tge scalpers. Remember that we used to complain about scalpers before?

This is great news if this means that the scalpers are the ones losing this time!

I guess it comes down to it's the lesser of two evils to have the Stones and their promoters rob the fans instead of scalpers.

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There will be $50 tickets outside every show!

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There will be $50 tickets outside every show!

Is that what you’ll be selling yours for?

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I don't know how on earth they came up with 799 Euros for PIT in Berlin. Absolutely nuts.

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I don't know how on earth they came up with 799 Euros for PIT in Berlin. Absolutely nuts.

not nuts. it's just the use of very simple psychology to sell the €499 Seats in Front of the Stage. I guess they don't care if the sell any of these Pit tickets at that price... but they will, and it's a nice bonus

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I don't know how on earth they came up with 799 Euros for PIT in Berlin. Absolutely nuts.

not nuts. it's just the use of very simple psychology to sell the €499 Seats in Front of the Stage. I guess they don't care if the sell any of these Pit tickets at that price... but they will, and it's a nice bonus

During the night they "sold" (eh, removed) almost all the €499 seats in Berlin.
Let's-remove-them-so-they-buy-pit-instead.
They probably have lots of GA tickets hidden as well.

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It-Is-Not-The-Band(s)-That-Set-The-Price(s)-And-Rob-People.

-Oh-yes-it-is-because-the-band-insists-on-a-guaranteed-amount-which-means-the-ticket-prices-have-to-be-so-high-or-the-promoter-wont-make-money

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The 2018 tour tickets are cheap!


TONGUE PIT PACKAGE
Package price $1,850 (inclusive of PL1 ticket cost $753.50)
Package to include:
• One General Admission Tongue Pit ticket with early entry before general public
• Exclusive merchandise item
• Official tour program
• Collectible laminate
• Onsite event management staff
• One admission ticket to the Rolling Stones New York City Exhibit (separate event not at venue)

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Any commercial sponsors supporting the No Filter 2018 Tour?
Rockandroll,
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