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Re: OT: Elton John - Farewell Yellow Brick Road Tour
Posted by: bitusa2012 ()
Date: November 16, 2019 06:05

Perth in 2 weeks

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Re: OT: Elton John - Farewell Yellow Brick Road Tour
Date: November 16, 2019 19:34

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I didn't really ant to go see this show but he really was amazing.
The other night a friend and I tried listing all the EJ hits - it is insane how many hits he has had.
watching that youtube graphic the other day about top sellers from 1960 to 2019 also showed very well what a huge force EJ has been for many years. Makes me think: is Elton even in the RARHOF?

he was inducted in 1994. axl rose did the induction speech.

What was insane was Bernie Taupin wasn't inducted with him. Thankfully Elton is classy enough that I think he dedicated the whole thing to him, or even brought him up with him. Cause its the two of them and we all know. It shows exactly how stupid the Hall is that they're the one institution that SHOULD understand that of course you induct Bernie and of course they're @#$%& clueless.
As if my disgust with their nominating process couldn't get any lower.

You induct Elton John and DON'T include Bernie @#$%& Taupin?? Clueless is an understatement.

I didn't know that either. That is ridiculous. I guess they figure EJ went on to scale other heights, but we all know the glory years were Elton and Bernie.
What also proves that this is all internal R&R politics, is that the E Street Band was inducted. The E Street Band??

Re: OT: Elton John - Farewell Yellow Brick Road Tour
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: November 16, 2019 19:39

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I didn't really ant to go see this show but he really was amazing.
The other night a friend and I tried listing all the EJ hits - it is insane how many hits he has had.
watching that youtube graphic the other day about top sellers from 1960 to 2019 also showed very well what a huge force EJ has been for many years. Makes me think: is Elton even in the RARHOF?

he was inducted in 1994. axl rose did the induction speech.

What was insane was Bernie Taupin wasn't inducted with him. Thankfully Elton is classy enough that I think he dedicated the whole thing to him, or even brought him up with him. Cause its the two of them and we all know. It shows exactly how stupid the Hall is that they're the one institution that SHOULD understand that of course you induct Bernie and of course they're @#$%& clueless.
As if my disgust with their nominating process couldn't get any lower.

You induct Elton John and DON'T include Bernie @#$%& Taupin?? Clueless is an understatement.

I didn't know that either. That is ridiculous. I guess they figure EJ went on to scale other heights, but we all know the glory years were Elton and Bernie.
What also proves that this is all internal R&R politics, is that the E Street Band was inducted. The E Street Band??

Yup, I'm as big a Bruce fan as anyone and that was kinda dumb that they put them in. Just cause Steven and Landau are on the rock board. I love that band to death, but they should have gone in with Bruce or not at all. And the bottom line is they ASKED Bruce how he wanted to be inducted and he said alone. He knew in his heart that that makes the most sense too. The albums were always ONLY credited to him, and thats a deliberate choice. Live? Of course you advertise them. But the music and the songs are really uniquely his. Its not as much a collaborative effort as Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers is. They were right the first time around with just Bruce.

I get that it can become tricky with some bands. When you induct Petty AND the Heartbreakers, thats technically not including Full Moon Fever and Wildflowers, two of his biggest records that truly show Tom COULD kinda do it all on his own. But he started his career with the Heartbreakers and they all had a fairly equal say in things even if he was the spokesman. I could say the same thing about Bob Seger. Technically, its all just him, BUT he always credited the Silver Bullet Band on the album covers. Does that make them worthy? While I'd probably just induct Bob his own, I could totally understand how the Silver Bullet Band deserves it more than the E Street Band. Bob cared enough then to put them on the album covers. That WAS the identity.

Re: OT: Elton John - Farewell Yellow Brick Road Tour
Posted by: keefriff99 ()
Date: November 16, 2019 20:01

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I didn't really ant to go see this show but he really was amazing.
The other night a friend and I tried listing all the EJ hits - it is insane how many hits he has had.
watching that youtube graphic the other day about top sellers from 1960 to 2019 also showed very well what a huge force EJ has been for many years. Makes me think: is Elton even in the RARHOF?

he was inducted in 1994. axl rose did the induction speech.

What was insane was Bernie Taupin wasn't inducted with him. Thankfully Elton is classy enough that I think he dedicated the whole thing to him, or even brought him up with him. Cause its the two of them and we all know. It shows exactly how stupid the Hall is that they're the one institution that SHOULD understand that of course you induct Bernie and of course they're @#$%& clueless.
As if my disgust with their nominating process couldn't get any lower.

You induct Elton John and DON'T include Bernie @#$%& Taupin?? Clueless is an understatement.

I didn't know that either. That is ridiculous. I guess they figure EJ went on to scale other heights, but we all know the glory years were Elton and Bernie.
What also proves that this is all internal R&R politics, is that the E Street Band was inducted. The E Street Band??

Yup, I'm as big a Bruce fan as anyone and that was kinda dumb that they put them in. Just cause Steven and Landau are on the rock board. I love that band to death, but they should have gone in with Bruce or not at all. And the bottom line is they ASKED Bruce how he wanted to be inducted and he said alone. He knew in his heart that that makes the most sense too. The albums were always ONLY credited to him, and thats a deliberate choice. Live? Of course you advertise them. But the music and the songs are really uniquely his. Its not as much a collaborative effort as Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers is. They were right the first time around with just Bruce.

I get that it can become tricky with some bands. When you induct Petty AND the Heartbreakers, thats technically not including Full Moon Fever and Wildflowers, two of his biggest records that truly show Tom COULD kinda do it all on his own. But he started his career with the Heartbreakers and they all had a fairly equal say in things even if he was the spokesman. I could say the same thing about Bob Seger. Technically, its all just him, BUT he always credited the Silver Bullet Band on the album covers. Does that make them worthy? While I'd probably just induct Bob his own, I could totally understand how the Silver Bullet Band deserves it more than the E Street Band. Bob cared enough then to put them on the album covers. That WAS the identity.
I'm surprised you feel that...I kinda feel the exact opposite.

Any band that's capable of backing up and keeping up with THAT MAN for almost 50 years for 3-4 hours a night is deserving of induction.

Re: OT: Elton John - Farewell Yellow Brick Road Tour
Posted by: RollingFreak ()
Date: November 16, 2019 20:08

Again, its mainly because Bruce himself clearly feels a specific way. I think they are one of the greatest bands ever, but I don't think its coincidental that they aren't listed on the albums and he himself thought he should be inducted alone. He played with them at the Induction ceremony which is absolutely the right call, but he was given every opportunity to include them and clearly thought "no, this is really about me and when push comes to shove, its a solo effort not a band one in the grand scheme of things." Yes I think its partially a semantics thing, but its unlike a scenario where they DIDN'T give him a choice. They let him do it however he wanted and he chose it that way.

You either put them in WITH him or you didn't put them in at all. Especially when you have bands like the Misfits who are unfairly looked down on and can't get in ONCE! But Bruce Springsteen's band gets in twice? I love the E Street Band, and I'm happy they got recognized, but I also can't pretend like its not just favorable politics for them. (Also, Bruce's entire speech in 1999 when he went in alone was basically praising that entire band. I personally thought it made sense that he went in alone but the speech is about the band. Gave them the spotlight but that the one who gets the honor is the one who started it all, writes the music, steers the ship, and makes every decision in the band).

Re: OT: Elton John - Farewell Yellow Brick Road Tour
Date: November 19, 2019 08:35

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Again, its mainly because Bruce himself clearly feels a specific way. I think they are one of the greatest bands ever, but I don't think its coincidental that they aren't listed on the albums and he himself thought he should be inducted alone. He played with them at the Induction ceremony which is absolutely the right call, but he was given every opportunity to include them and clearly thought "no, this is really about me and when push comes to shove, its a solo effort not a band one in the grand scheme of things." Yes I think its partially a semantics thing, but its unlike a scenario where they DIDN'T give him a choice. They let him do it however he wanted and he chose it that way.

You either put them in WITH him or you didn't put them in at all. Especially when you have bands like the Misfits who are unfairly looked down on and can't get in ONCE! But Bruce Springsteen's band gets in twice? I love the E Street Band, and I'm happy they got recognized, but I also can't pretend like its not just favorable politics for them. (Also, Bruce's entire speech in 1999 when he went in alone was basically praising that entire band. I personally thought it made sense that he went in alone but the speech is about the band. Gave them the spotlight but that the one who gets the honor is the one who started it all, writes the music, steers the ship, and makes every decision in the band).

At first glance I thought you had written "..writes the music, STEALS the ship, and ...". And I thought "Wow I don't know that expression; very cool though".

Re: OT: Elton John - Farewell Yellow Brick Road Tour
Posted by: tonyc ()
Date: November 27, 2019 01:19

I was able to get Knoxville but it was very difficult being Tickets Unlimited instead of Ticketmaster. Actually had to get them by phone just before they sold out as the computer never let me in. Hundreds of people have complained on Facebook but at least I'm in without having to pay scalper prices.

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