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Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: Paddy ()
Date: January 28, 2022 03:50

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Neil just has yet another new (old) album out: Summer Songs

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He puts them out quicker than I can check them out ... spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

Ain’t that the truth!
He’s one of the most prolific artists ever.
I’m not saying it’s all worth hearing, but it’s 75% great.
Long May he run.

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: January 28, 2022 10:05

I love Neil. Crochety, but sometimes standing up for something that needs to be.

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: kovach ()
Date: January 28, 2022 16:46

I like Neil, have seen him many times, and it's his right to take his work off a particular media if he disagrees with their practices. Demanding someone else's be removed is a slippery slope. I credit Spotify for not being held hostage and bowing to pressure (and I'm really no fan of Spotify, I find their software terribly buggy to the point of bing embarrassing for such a large company).



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Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: January 29, 2022 06:28

Joni joins Neil:

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Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: Rip This ()
Date: January 29, 2022 15:23

good for Joni....next?

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: calipachangero ()
Date: January 29, 2022 18:42

Paul Mc Cartney could be the next virtue signaller, or will it be Bono or Coldplay? Stay tuned

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: January 29, 2022 18:46

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Paul Mc Cartney could be the next virtue signaller, or will it be Bono or Coldplay? Stay tuned

I hope it starts an avalanche of acts following suit, but am not completely optimistic.

It's reasonably easy if you're not making money of the platform anyway. If one of their bigger acts go, ie fellow Canadians Bieber or Drake, I'll be shocked and impressed.

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
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Date: January 29, 2022 20:00


Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: January 29, 2022 20:32

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smileys with beer

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: terraplane ()
Date: January 29, 2022 21:54

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Rip This
good for Joni....next?

Breaking news: Nickleback threaten to release new album unless a certain podcaster is removed from Spotify.

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: January 29, 2022 22:10

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good for Joni....next?

Breaking news: Nickleback threaten to release new album unless a certain podcaster is removed from Spotify.

LOL...quit picking on Canadian bands!

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: 2000 LYFH ()
Date: January 29, 2022 22:49

Old Man look at my life, I'm a lot like you were...

Neil and Louis Avila (ranch hand) in 1971 at Neil's ranch Broken Arrow.

Photo by Henry Diltz




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Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: eismann ()
Date: January 29, 2022 23:27

Just followed neil's recommendation/HD. He really influences, and always keeps track!

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: terraplane ()
Date: January 30, 2022 00:28

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Breaking news: Nickleback threaten to release new album unless a certain podcaster is removed from Spotify.

LOL...quit picking on Canadian bands!
N

Actually I don't mind some of Neil's music. Not so much from the 80s onwards though. The Band were incredible. Some BTO was good. I heard a track by Chilliwack (?) once that was good. Open to recommendations on good Canadian bands.

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: BeastyBurdeny ()
Date: January 30, 2022 02:06

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good for Joni....next?

Breaking news: Nickleback threaten to release new album unless a certain podcaster is removed from Spotify.

LOL...quit picking on Canadian bands!
N

Actually I don't mind some of Neil's music. Not so much from the 80s onwards though. The Band were incredible. Some BTO was good. I heard a track by Chilliwack (?) once that was good. Open to recommendations on good Canadian bands.

Guess Who... Rush.. Steppenwolf

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: crholmstrom ()
Date: January 30, 2022 02:09

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Breaking news: Nickleback threaten to release new album unless a certain podcaster is removed from Spotify.

LOL...quit picking on Canadian bands!
N

Actually I don't mind some of Neil's music. Not so much from the 80s onwards though. The Band were incredible. Some BTO was good. I heard a track by Chilliwack (?) once that was good. Open to recommendations on good Canadian bands.

The Tragically Hip
Black Mountain
54-40
Leonard Cohen
to name a few....

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: NashvilleBlues ()
Date: January 30, 2022 02:21

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Breaking news: Nickleback threaten to release new album unless a certain podcaster is removed from Spotify.

LOL...quit picking on Canadian bands!
N

Actually I don't mind some of Neil's music. Not so much from the 80s onwards though. The Band were incredible. Some BTO was good. I heard a track by Chilliwack (?) once that was good. Open to recommendations on good Canadian bands.

Try Silver and Gold. Great Neil Young album from after the 80’s. One of my favorites from NY. And, yes, Cohen is elite also. His first album is a classic. Very few set a mood like Leonard Cohen.

Check out Death From Above 1979. Saw them at Third Man (Jack White’s place) in Nashville. Jack was in attendance and later that night DFA 1979 (2 guys), Jack and Mick Jagger went bowling.
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Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: terraplane ()
Date: January 30, 2022 02:32

Thanks for the recommendations!

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: drwatts ()
Date: January 30, 2022 02:33

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Breaking news: Nickleback threaten to release new album unless a certain podcaster is removed from Spotify.
OMG, please remove Rogan now!!!

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: January 30, 2022 03:15

In Praise of Neil Young’s Eternal Battle With the Music Industry

NEIL

The rock icon, who recently left Spotify, has made an art of pushing back against the corporations that distribute his music.

By Sam Sodomsky
January 28, 2022


On Christmas Day 2021, Neil Young released an album called Summer Songs exclusively via the Neil Young Archives—the quirky, glitchy, and ultimately awesome subscription streaming service he launched four years earlier. A previously unreleased collection of solo piano and guitar performances from Young’s mysterious era in the late 1980s, the record felt like a gift from the 76-year-old artist, hand-delivered to his most devoted fans. It arrived just weeks after his new studio album with Crazy Horse, which itself arrived just months after a new double live album from his most celebrated period.

Even before he removed his music from Spotify this week, in defiance of the streaming giant’s support of podcaster Joe Rogan and his COVID misinformation, Young’s freewheeling vision stood apart from his peers. Take Bob Dylan, whose archival work arrives in reliable, annual installments of the Bootleg Series; or Bruce Springsteen, whose obsessive approach sometimes involves re-recording vintage material to meet his present-day standards. (All three artists have recently sold their catalog rights to large conglomerates. It will be interesting to see how these deals affect their releases going forward.)

Compared to other legacy acts, being a Neil Young fan can feel like being invited into his home, where you can sort through the catalog, listen to his stories, and find the gems for yourself. It’s been a long time since he carried himself like a mainstream artist, if he ever did. Young has always expressed skepticism toward the industry status quo, instead following his insular, independent vision—even at the risk of challenging, or losing, his audience. Had he not invested the past decade into his own personal streaming service, Young might have felt just as at home becoming Bandcamp’s prolific poster child.

In other words, Young doesn’t need Spotify—in the same way he didn’t need MP3s (“Download this/Sounds like shit,” went a line from 2009’s “Fork in the Road”), iPods (Pono anybody?), or even CDs. When I was first becoming acquainted with Young’s music in the early 2000s, I was unable to hear what many fans considered his greatest album, 1974’s On the Beach, which for decades he refused to release on CD. I didn’t own a record player, and I was yet to find my way around MP3 blogs, so I just had to wait. (The previous year’s Time Fades Away, another personal favorite, has still not officially arrived on the format.)

Back then, I might have longed for something like Spotify, where I could access an artist’s entire catalog without ever having to leave my house. This was also Young’s dream for a while. “Technology is supposed to make life better for everyone,” he wrote, 10 years ago, in his memoir Waging Heavy Peace, suggesting that wider access to music wasn’t the problem—it was the compromised sound quality, and how the wrong people were making money. With his statement this week, Young escalates his grievances—to his mainstream audience, he is now framing Spotify as not just the latest extension of a morally bankrupt music industry, but also as a willing vessel for harmful misinformation. And so he began developing an alternative: “I believe in what I am trying to do and that good karma will come from it,” he wrote in his memoir. “It’s just a matter of time.”

His vision, then called PureTone, first saw life as Pono, which evolved into something called Xstream, and now exists as the Neil Young Archives. Is it the viable, utopian alternative to Spotify he described? Probably not. Because of his vast resources, it’s hard to imagine any other artists willfully abandoning traditional streaming for this kind of self-sustained method. But it also suits an artist like Young, who continues to work at his own haphazard pace, in his own world. In a recent Rolling Stone interview promoting his latest album Barn, Young unsurprisingly revealed he’s got another 10 songs ready to go—not to mention, you know, the science fiction book, the film projects, or the Archives III box set. And since he has no interest in performing live until he can be sure his concerts are COVID-safe, he’s got nothing but time.

So, in the spirit of Neil, please allow me a brief tangent. Back in September, I saw Yo La Tengo play one of my first pandemic-era shows at a Brooklyn venue called TV Eye. The set was droney and jammy and rad; the room was smaller than where they generally play; a couple near me was banging into everyone, wilding out like it was the dancefloor at their own anniversary party. Near the end of the set, the band broke into a thrashy, catchy cover of a song about the music industry. “That’s why we don’t wanna be good,” they shouted in the chorus.

It took a minute to place it. And then I realized, of course, it was Neil Young’s “Prisoners of Rock’n’Roll,” from a 1987 album with Crazy Horse called Life. I wanted to listen on the subway home, so I checked Tidal—the streaming service I’ve been using since 2016 because, at the time, it was the only one that had Neil Young’s music. Then I remembered that he was feuding with Tidal, due to their use of the term “masters” to advertise his releases: “If TIDAL referred to their titles as TIDAL MASTERS, I would have no problem,” he explained last year, “but they don’t... I had my music removed from that platform. They are not my masters.”

As a prank, however, he allowed Tidal to keep a select bundle of releases, all from his divisive period of genre experiments in the ’80s—at the time, its own statement toward an industry that tried to box him in. I scrolled to Life and pressed play on “Prisoners of Rock’n’Roll,” which sounded more celebratory and righteous than I remembered. “We don’t want to be watered down,” he shouts over the band. “Takin’ orders from record company clowns.” Since then, he has put most of his catalog back on Tidal and waged at least half a dozen other battles. But the message rings true: “Soon my music will live on in a better place,” he announced with this week’s Spotify decision, and the key word is “live”—that is to say, always in motion, burning on.

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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: 2000 LYFH ()
Date: January 30, 2022 03:37

Buffalo Springfield rehearsing at Steven Stills Los Angeles house in July 1986.





Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: mrjones ()
Date: January 30, 2022 03:45

Nils Lofgren is OUTTA there! Lots more rumoured too. You go Neil!!!

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: January 30, 2022 04:14

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good for Joni....next?

Breaking news: Nickleback threaten to release new album unless a certain podcaster is removed from Spotify.

LOL...quit picking on Canadian bands!
N

Actually I don't mind some of Neil's music. Not so much from the 80s onwards though. The Band were incredible. Some BTO was good. I heard a track by Chilliwack (?) once that was good. Open to recommendations on good Canadian bands.

Guess Who... Rush.. Steppenwolf

william shatnergrinning smiley

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: January 30, 2022 05:05

Bands/Artists I have seen
Broken Social Scene, Bruce Cockburn, Arcade Fire, Blackie and the Rodeo Kings

Others worth mentioning
Alannis Morrisette, Jeff Healey, Bryan Adams

Others that deserve no mention
Justin Bieber, Nickleback, Drake (By virtue of his involvement with Travis Scott in Houston)

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: Paddy ()
Date: January 30, 2022 05:25

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good for Joni....next?

Breaking news: Nickleback threaten to release new album unless a certain podcaster is removed from Spotify.

LOL...quit picking on Canadian bands!
N

Actually I don't mind some of Neil's music. Not so much from the 80s onwards though. The Band were incredible. Some BTO was good. I heard a track by Chilliwack (?) once that was good. Open to recommendations on good Canadian bands.


The Sheepdogs... check em out , also Metric, The tragically hip, Godspeed! You Black Emperor, Skinny Puppy, Annihilator, Plants and Animals, Strapping young lad.... lots of great local punk bands too.

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: January 30, 2022 05:40

It will be interesting to see who else pulls from Spotify.

So far only 2.

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: Bjorn ()
Date: January 30, 2022 12:37

Stupid son of a bitch, as people say over there in the USA. Don´t buy his records, don´t go to his concerts. Just ignore him. Be like Neil!

Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: BowieStone ()
Date: January 30, 2022 13:13

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Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: terraplane ()
Date: January 30, 2022 13:22

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Re: OT: Neil Young stuff
Posted by: BowieStone ()
Date: January 30, 2022 13:35

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It will be interesting to see who else pulls from Spotify.

So far only 2.

Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Nils Lofgren, Lloyd Cole.
At least they want to, it’s not that easy apparently.

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