Does anyone think that this is an absolutely fanastic live song? I think it's particularly good in the stadiums. I saw them play it at RFK in Washington D.C. on the opening night of Voodoo Lounge tour. I still have chills. And I think it's probably Mick that loves playing this one. It seems to get tossed in early in tours (NS and 40Licks) and then bounced (with the exception of '89).

southboundtrain

With all respect - I cant possibly imagine how anyone
can like that song...
Do you like their other 80´s catalog?
I Like She Was Hot on Undercover.

Undercover was brilliant at Giants Stadium in 2002.

Sorry, too disco for me. My line goes just behind
Miss You. Guess your a few years younger than me, Erik(?):
I`ve always said there´s a musical paradigm change
between people born before 1965-66 and after 1966-67, respectively.
I´ve seen that change line go between me, b 1963 & 1964´ers
(at least I know one example of that). But...
Cant stand disco. I am too much rooted in noisy rock & punk.



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Baboon, don't you know that noisy rock and punk is bad for your health?

I ain't stupid, I'm just guitarded.

smile: sorry to mess up a Baboon Paradigm, but i'm the same age as rock & roll, and most of the Stones' 80s stuff grooves me just fine. i'm just lucky to be one of those who resonates to what the Rolling Stones are doing all down the line.
well, except for ... nah, never mind! i'm working on it. :E


"What do you want - what?!"
- Keith

southboundtrain Wrote:
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> And I think it's probably Mick that loves playing this one.

It was very noticeably so the time I heard it live.

Yeah, you´re right my ear caves (or whatever they´re called in
English) are a mess. I have some more or less
distortion in my left ear, have had since 79 or so. Guess why!
My self-destructive side always pulled me close to the
piles of loadspeakers those days.

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No, Dear Withsssoul, you´re not messin up... On the contrary...
The other, earlier group are born before 1955-56.
They like disco as much as the 'post-ironics'
(circa 1965-1980?)... If I´m serious? Partly.
I had a girlfriend once (this was in the 80´s) born 1955, all she wanted
to do (well... almost all) was watchin Hall & Oates & Such crap on video/tv.
See, they are all that way, the 50´s people.

Myself I go nuts & need to flush my ears with
some bleedin guitar (´Eavy metal or - better -
some good ol´ heavy rock works almost as well).

Well, we all like different music & verious parts of Stones many sides.
Good like with your pumpin 80´s basses...

I never witness "Undercover" live, but I have several bootloegs from the Steel Wheels Tour where it was played constantly.
In my opinion, it's not a real live song. It sounds odd compared to the album version which is full of sound effects and loops and drum machines aso. It wasn't badly played but sounded just odd. So did 2000 Light Years From Home, whereby it was great to listen to it live.

For me, the whole "Under Cover" is a strange album. I like "She Was Hot", "Too Tough", "All The Way Down" and "Too Much Blood" but the rest is crap. They tried to deliver a "modern" disco-like album and the result was worse than Emotional Rescue or Satanic Majesties. I think whenever the Stones tried to follow actual trends too slavely they failed. The only exception is "Bridges to Babylon" which can, in a way, be compared with "Under Cover" but is much better, even though it is overproduced.

Nice post Meise.

I ain't stupid, I'm just guitarded.

Undercover is a great song. I was pleased they threw it in the set at Wembley in '95!!

They didn't play Undercover at Wembley 95.
In fact, it has never been played in Europe.

>> See, they are all that way, the 50s people. <<

whoa, too rude Bro baby!
your ex-lady can keep haulin oats -
i am talkin about the Rolling @#$%& Stones, get it? :E

from [www.timeisonourside.com]
(which is actually part two of a really good read):

"When the Stones started adding styles such as funk, disco and reggae into their music in the mid-1970s (people usually think straight away of songs like Hot Stuff, Miss You, Emotional Rescue, but there are less obvious examples also), they were not changing in any fundamental way - they were only doing what they had always done. Their music has always been steeped into black musical culture, starting from classic blues and R&B from the 1950s, but then always also exploring the music of their black contemporaries - starting in 1964-65 with Motown and soul music (Redding, Covay, Burke, etc.). And Stones music - UNLIKE a lot of white rock - has almost always been DANCEABLE - even at its raunchiest, from Around and Around to Street Fighting Man to Brown Sugar."





"What do you want - what?!"
- Keith

I love the song and I like it live too. It works fine. Do it this tour, as well!

i don't think it's a great song, but it does tend to work very well live. Saw it in the '99 opener and was quite impressed. From the Detroit '02 boot, once again - a clear show highlight. It's a Mick song that I think he would like to do more often but presumably loses out to his better half eventually....

Undercover is a disco song?

I never heard it in the gay bars

Yeah Undercover a disco song!!!.....More like a brutal shower of sound.

ROCKMAN

Exactly, Rockman, that goes double for the terrific 6:22 version (should have been on the lp) issued b/w the 6:27 Dub for "Feel On Baby."

Also remember Keith saying that at the time he was listening to a lot of Jamaican recordings and was highly influenced by Lee Perry's productions of where the instruments just stop dead in their tracks instead of the white man's way of fading things out.

And yes 12" is a must esp for the dub of Feel On Baby...very nice..xxx

ROCKMAN

For once I had to disagree, good ol´ Rockman.
Not that I´ve heard the alternate takes.
Seems like I´ve spendin too much time in discos during years 1982-84...
Never really liked the world war machine drums.
Never been to the gay bars though.

...But please dont misunderstand all good people on the 80´s Stones.
Imho its not (with the brilliant exceptions of ER & TY & to some extent
SW) their prime time.

Its just that I hate the 80´s. It brought with itself
mostly crap, rap & more crap. The human touch disappeared.
Under COver reminds me too much of it. But the album has some gems.

Hey Baboon... If Studio 54 had have played Undercover Of The Night even I would have donned some bling and shook my lil skinny booty....and I'm allergic to dance floors...!!!!

Both vids for Under Cover of The Night are pretty damn menacing....!!!


ROCKMAN

btw, BB, these aren't 'alternate takes' but the officially issued 12-inch single version: Undercover has a longer, more dramatic intro w/a neat syncopated variation on the main guitar riff right before the vocal comes in, bigger wider overall sound & longer guitar solo; Feel On has great deep bass & only Keith's vocal refrain plus lots of percolatin' precussion & reVerbbbb



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The whole of the Undercover album and the song itself rocks. Period.

Vilhelm
Nordic Stones Vikings

I may myself have danced to this while hanging around
at some sleazy disco. Under Cover grows on me, cant deny it.
Still I despise the synthetic sound of the drums.
Jagger was far out during some time in the 80´s.
It wasnt just him; even Neil Young performed with a tie in 1984.
And what about Bowie (yak) those years.
...And we all love Emotional Rescue´s title track (not?).

It's great live! Atlantic City 89 and Montreal 89 are my favourite versions.

This could have been a killer if Ollie was still around.
fake sampled congas give me the s...ts
same as devil.

the album version is huge!!!

C

I agree about the samples - the song (U) never quite realized its potential live - was more like the keys/samples reigned it in, staying close to the album version. But it has potential to be hard-hitting live, if they spent time teasing out more fluid & cogent guitar roles as hinted at on the long version, plus Blondie / Bernard adding percussive spice, or a real conga player - especially the way the gtrs are mixed on the current tour (Miss You, which imo can really rock, comes to mind). I doubt they'll do it, but a nicely rehearsed version would be welcome to these ears. Of course we can all think of scores of songs about which the same things could be said...

Loved it live not studio

THe live version they released in '89 (b-side?) really rocks. If you think the song is too disco, you should check out that version. It's more rock and roll.