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1975:

"Honky Tonk Women"
"All Down the Line"
"If You Can't Rock Me"/
"Get Off of My Cloud"
"Star Star"
"Gimme Shelter"
"Ain't Too Proud to Beg"
"You Gotta Move"
"You Can't Always Get What You Want"
"Happy"
"Tumbling Dice"
"It's Only Rock 'n Roll (But I Like It)"
"Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)"
"Fingerprint File"
"Angie"
"Wild Horses"
"That's Life" (sung by Billy Preston)
"Outa-Space" (led by Billy Preston)
"Brown Sugar"
"Midnight Rambler"
"Rip This Joint"
"Street Fighting Man"
"Jumpin' Jack Flash"
Sympathy For The Devil (now and again)

12/24 - 50%. That's more than I thought it would be..

Was IORR really in OPen G?
Also - we haven't been talking about Ronnie in a while? This is about Keith's guitar?



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This can be interesting and it also speaks of open tunings ...
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1975:

"Honky Tonk Women"
"All Down the Line"
"If You Can't Rock Me"/
"Get Off of My Cloud"
"Star Star"
"Gimme Shelter"
"Ain't Too Proud to Beg"
"You Gotta Move"
"You Can't Always Get What You Want"
"Happy"
"Tumbling Dice"
"It's Only Rock 'n Roll (But I Like It)"
"Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)"
"Fingerprint File"
"Angie"
"Wild Horses"
"That's Life" (sung by Billy Preston)
"Outa-Space" (led by Billy Preston)
"Brown Sugar"
"Midnight Rambler"
"Rip This Joint"
"Street Fighting Man"
"Jumpin' Jack Flash"
Sympathy For The Devil (now and again)

12/24 - 50%. That's more than I thought it would be..

Was IORR really in OPen G?
Also - we haven't been talking about Ronnie in a while? This is about Keith's guitar?

Yes in 75/76 Keith played it in open g. You can see it in The la and Paris shows. In LA he played his tele and Paris he played it with the zemaitis. I think the zemaitus may have been capoed as well but don't hold me to that. It has been a while since I watched those videos.

In 76 he used the 5 String Zemaitis on occasion.


Since then he's pretty much stuck with the Teles for Open G duties.

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Keith is probably playing in Open G tuning about 80% of the time at a typical show. Is Ronnie usually in standard? Anyone know?

Standard nearly 100%

I love the sound of Ronnie's guitar in this video. Turn up the volume Please ...
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I love the sound of Ronnie's guitar in this video. Turn up the volume Please ...
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Standard tuning.

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1975:

"Honky Tonk Women"
"All Down the Line"
"If You Can't Rock Me"/
"Get Off of My Cloud"
"Star Star"
"Gimme Shelter"
"Ain't Too Proud to Beg"
"You Gotta Move"
"You Can't Always Get What You Want"
"Happy"
"Tumbling Dice"
"It's Only Rock 'n Roll (But I Like It)"
"Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)"
"Fingerprint File"
"Angie"
"Wild Horses"
"That's Life" (sung by Billy Preston)
"Outa-Space" (led by Billy Preston)
"Brown Sugar"
"Midnight Rambler"
"Rip This Joint"
"Street Fighting Man"
"Jumpin' Jack Flash"
Sympathy For The Devil (now and again)

12/24 - 50%. That's more than I thought it would be..

That's Life, Outa-Space and Rip This Joint are open G as well.

Mathijs

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1972:

"Brown Sugar"
"Bitch"
"Rocks Off"
"Gimme Shelter"
"Happy"
"Tumbling Dice"
"Love in Vain"
"Sweet Virginia"
"You Can't Always Get What You Want"
"All Down the Line"
"Midnight Rambler"
"Bye Bye Johnny"
"Rip This Joint"
"Jumpin' Jack Flash"
"Street Fighting Man"

7/15 – 46%

I have read many conflicting reports. Was rocks off in 72 indeed standard? I know it was from 94 on. Just wondering.

Always in standard tuning - live and on record. The dark F sharp during the intro is impossible in open G.

Not completely correct on Rocks Off. The studio version starts with two standard tuned guitars, with the opening riff in standard tuning in the left channel, which continues with a rhythm part for the first verse. This guitar is replaced by an open G tuned guitar during the first chorus, and continues until the end, except for the middle-8, where it's standard again.

I didn't know this until the Stones Exhibition.

Mathijs

Never once has Ronnie ever played in open G that I've ever seen or heard of.

Only Keith and Mick play in open G.

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1972:

"Brown Sugar"
"Bitch"
"Rocks Off"
"Gimme Shelter"
"Happy"
"Tumbling Dice"
"Love in Vain"
"Sweet Virginia"
"You Can't Always Get What You Want"
"All Down the Line"
"Midnight Rambler"
"Bye Bye Johnny"
"Rip This Joint"
"Jumpin' Jack Flash"
"Street Fighting Man"

7/15 – 46%

I have read many conflicting reports. Was rocks off in 72 indeed standard? I know it was from 94 on. Just wondering.

Always in standard tuning - live and on record. The dark F sharp during the intro is impossible in open G.

Not completely correct on Rocks Off. The studio version starts with two standard tuned guitars, with the opening riff in standard tuning in the left channel, which continues with a rhythm part for the first verse. This guitar is replaced by an open G tuned guitar during the first chorus, and continues until the end, except for the middle-8, where it's standard again.

I didn't know this until the Stones Exhibition.

Mathijs

Hm, I haven't noticed that. Thanks, will check it out.

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1972:

"Brown Sugar"
"Bitch"
"Rocks Off"
"Gimme Shelter"
"Happy"
"Tumbling Dice"
"Love in Vain"
"Sweet Virginia"
"You Can't Always Get What You Want"
"All Down the Line"
"Midnight Rambler"
"Bye Bye Johnny"
"Rip This Joint"
"Jumpin' Jack Flash"
"Street Fighting Man"

7/15 – 46%

I have read many conflicting reports. Was rocks off in 72 indeed standard? I know it was from 94 on. Just wondering.

Always in standard tuning - live and on record. The dark F sharp during the intro is impossible in open G.

Not completely correct on Rocks Off. The studio version starts with two standard tuned guitars, with the opening riff in standard tuning in the left channel, which continues with a rhythm part for the first verse. This guitar is replaced by an open G tuned guitar during the first chorus, and continues until the end, except for the middle-8, where it's standard again.

I didn't know this until the Stones Exhibition.

Mathijs

That's correct. Nice find.

I don't hear any open G guitar on Rocks Off replacing the standard tuning at any point in the song. Considering the key of the song, open G just doesn't make sense.

I know it is fairly simple but has anyone ever tabbed out or done a lesson video on iorr in open g like Keith played it in 75/76?

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I don't hear any open G guitar on Rocks Off replacing the standard tuning at any point in the song. Considering the key of the song, open G just doesn't make sense.

It's a hilariously good observation, actually

The guitar in the right speaker draws all your attention, while Keith is pumping away on open G in the left speaker.

Here's the last chorus only.





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I don't hear any open G guitar on Rocks Off replacing the standard tuning at any point in the song. Considering the key of the song, open G just doesn't make sense.

It really is there. The standard tuned guitar before it is replaced plays the accents after each vocal line, and you can hear the low E string clearly). At 'what's the matter with the boy' the open G enters.

I never noticed it until the Exhibition, where you could make your own mix.

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I don't hear any open G guitar on Rocks Off replacing the standard tuning at any point in the song. Considering the key of the song, open G just doesn't make sense.

It is an open G guitar indeed. These are the kind of things we always heard but never realised. However, if Keith had given it a 'nasty punch' in standard tuning it probably would have worked as well.

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I don't hear any open G guitar on Rocks Off replacing the standard tuning at any point in the song. Considering the key of the song, open G just doesn't make sense.

It really is there. The standard tuned guitar before it is replaced plays the accents after each vocal line, and you can hear the low E string clearly). At 'what's the matter with the boy' the open G enters.

I never noticed it until the Exhibition, where you could make your own mix.

Mathijs

At the exhibition you can mix your own Stones songs? On how many songs? And all tracks, or just guitars?

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I don't hear any open G guitar on Rocks Off replacing the standard tuning at any point in the song. Considering the key of the song, open G just doesn't make sense.

It really is there. The standard tuned guitar before it is replaced plays the accents after each vocal line, and you can hear the low E string clearly). At 'what's the matter with the boy' the open G enters.

I never noticed it until the Exhibition, where you could make your own mix.

Mathijs

At the exhibition you can mix your own Stones songs? On how many songs? And all tracks, or just guitars?

Oh, you need to try that out, Palace. Great fun!

Let's see if I can remember the songs:

Undercover (Of The Night) - the acoustic mix-version
Honky Tonk Women from Brussels
A different version of Start Me Up
Rocks Off

I think there was one or two more. Four tracks, I think.

That open G-guitar in Rocks Off was indeed a great find. I didn't bother to mix RO at the Exhibitionism, and I always pay attention to the guitar in the right channel - so this slipped totally. The extra punch during the chorus makes sense now. It wasn't only the horns

"Let's see if I can remember the songs:

Undercover (Of The Night) - the acoustic mix-version
Honky Tonk Women from Brussels
A different version of Start Me Up
Rocks Off

I think there was one or two more. Four tracks, I think."

+ Doom and Gloom (live) and Miss You.

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"Let's see if I can remember the songs:

Undercover (Of The Night) - the acoustic mix-version
Honky Tonk Women from Brussels
A different version of Start Me Up
Rocks Off

I think there was one or two more. Four tracks, I think."

+ Doom and Gloom (live) and Miss You.

Yep, that's correct. D&G from Hyde Park.

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That open G-guitar in Rocks Off was indeed a great find. I didn't bother to mix RO at the Exhibitionism, and I always pay attention to the guitar in the right channel - so this slipped totally. The extra punch during the chorus makes sense now. It wasn't only the horns

I listened to that left track open G again. Can it be there is a piano buried underneath and playing along, far away? Sounds like it.

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That open G-guitar in Rocks Off was indeed a great find. I didn't bother to mix RO at the Exhibitionism, and I always pay attention to the guitar in the right channel - so this slipped totally. The extra punch during the chorus makes sense now. It wasn't only the horns

I listened to that left track open G again. Can it be there is a piano buried underneath and playing along, far away? Sounds like it.

There's a piano beneath the standard tuned guitar, and a third guitar by Taylor right in the middle, that was basically removed but bleeding through. It is more obvious near the end, and comes back in the track during the fade out and solo.

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That open G-guitar in Rocks Off was indeed a great find. I didn't bother to mix RO at the Exhibitionism, and I always pay attention to the guitar in the right channel - so this slipped totally. The extra punch during the chorus makes sense now. It wasn't only the horns

I listened to that left track open G again. Can it be there is a piano buried underneath and playing along, far away? Sounds like it.

There's a piano beneath the standard tuned guitar, and a third guitar by Taylor right in the middle, that was basically removed but bleeding through. It is more obvious near the end, and comes back in the track during the fade out and solo.

Mathijs

There's one piano clearly audible playing these "honky tonk" fills with the right hand. It is probably the left hand comping with Keith then, playing in Keith's register.



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Who is playing with that Hammond sound in the beginning?

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Who is playing with that Hammond sound in the beginning?

Taylor's out of phase guitar?

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Who is playing with that Hammond sound in the beginning?

Taylor's out of phase guitar?

Out of phase still sounds like a guitar, and guitar synthesizers didn't exist yet. It doesn't's sound like guitar at all to me, more a hammond , but it's played on a guitar it seems. It's audible until bar 14. Funny.

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Who is playing with that Hammond sound in the beginning?

Taylor's out of phase guitar?

Out of phase still sounds like a guitar, and guitar synthesizers didn't exist yet. It doesn't's sound like guitar at all to me, more a hammond , but it's played on a guitar it seems. It's audible until bar 14. Funny.

It's Taylor playing the Gibson ES-355 with the Varitone knob on 2, giving that hollow out of phase sound.

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Who is playing with that Hammond sound in the beginning?

Taylor's out of phase guitar?

Out of phase still sounds like a guitar, and guitar synthesizers didn't exist yet. It doesn't's sound like guitar at all to me, more a hammond , but it's played on a guitar it seems. It's audible until bar 14. Funny.

It's Taylor playing the Gibson ES-355 with the Varitone knob on 2, giving that hollow out of phase sound.



Mathijs

Thanks, very tasteful sound. He should have used it more often.