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DandelionPowderman
Nothing new there. No other musician got as many songwriting credits with the Stones as Ronnie, though. The author must be hinting at the early tracks (I Can Feel The Fire, It's Only Rock'n'Roll and Hey Negrita).
As the article says, «adding a guitar solo or drumbeat or organ over an existing song structure (and not contributing to the actual structure or melody of the song) is not typically considered songwriting».
There will always be borderline cases, where new instrumental parts are «challenging» the original structure of the song and its melody.
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ouroux58
In his book, Dominique Lamblin says that Brian Jones told him he wrote the riffs of "the last time" and "Get off of my cloud" and played to him the riff before the song was published and knew that Mick and Keith would keep the Credits for themselves.
I think he is not so far from the truth.
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ouroux58
In his book, Dominique Lamblin says that Brian Jones told him he wrote the riffs of "the last time" and "Get off of my cloud" and played to him the riff before the song was published and knew that Mick and Keith would keep the Credits for themselves.
I think he is not so far from the truth.
What riff on GOOMC?
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ouroux58
In his book, Dominique Lamblin says that Brian Jones told him he wrote the riffs of "the last time" and "Get off of my cloud" and played to him the riff before the song was published and knew that Mick and Keith would keep the Credits for themselves.
I think he is not so far from the truth.
What riff on GOOMC?
I think he is talking about the intro!
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DandelionPowderman
He "allowed" it on Lady Jane, Under My Thumb and probably others as well..
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timbernardis
Mick Martin of the Blues Party of KXJC radio in Sacramento said recently that Bill came up with Jumpin Jack Flash. Is this true?
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DandelionPowderman
He "allowed" it on Lady Jane, Under My Thumb and probably others as well..
Source?
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TheflyingDutchman
It was Brian's great idea to play the riff on Marimbas and Bill plays it. Keith doesn't play it on the original track, but sticks to the chords, so who knows.. Don't always step into "Keith's boots" like that DP, he wouldn't appreciate it.
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emotionalbarbecue
He did the very first steps....
The rest is history.
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jlowe
Well, the company that made the Jumping Jack Fireworks, which were around well before 1968 don't get any royalty payments either.
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GasLightStreet
He already has!
We got to the studio early once and... in fact I think it was a rehearsal studio, I don't think it was a recording studio. And there was just myself, Brian and Charlie - the Stones NEVER arrive at the same time, you know - and Mick and Keith hadn't come. And I was just messing about and I just sat down at the piano and started doing this riff, da-daw, da-da-daw, da-da-daw... and then Brian played a bit of guitar and Charlie was doing a rhythm. We were just messing with it for 20 minutes, just filling in time, and Mick and Keith came in and we stopped and they said, Hey, that sounded really good, carry on, what is it?
- Oh, that was just something we were messing with.
- That sounds good.
And then the next day all I can really remember... we recorded it and Mick wrote great lyrics to it and it turned out to be a really good single.
- Bill Wyman, 1982
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GasLightStreet
That was in ROLLING STONE I think, about the LICKS tour or whatever, the one with Keith on the cover.
Mick and I were in my house (laughs) in England in the country... and we'd been up all night and it was 6:30 in the morning, a dismal day, you know, English, grey. And we were just both crashing, Mick was on the couch and I was in an armchair with a guitar and we were, like, on the verge. And suddenly this sound of these boots (laughs) went by the window, clump clump clump - really, I mean, you had to be there to hear it - and woke Mick up, What was that? And I said - I looked out the window and I thought, Oh, that's Jack, that's jumpin' Jack. You know and then we started to play with those words. But I mean, really, it was sort of virtually woke up out of a stupor by this guy's boots, he was my gardener, he was a great guy but he's another story. And but... I just said, That's Jack. Well he's leaping about a bit. Yeah, I said, it's jumpin' Jack and then flash came and suddenly we were wide awake and we started to work, you know. You never know when they're going to come.
- Keith Richards, 2003
And then this bit from wherever:
Jumpin' Jack Flash comes from this guy Jack Dyer, who was my gardener. He'd lived out in the country all his life. I'll put it this way: Jack Dyer, an old English yokel. I once said, Have you ever been to town? And town, to an Englishman, means London, right? And he says, Oh Yeah, I was up there V.E. Day, when the war finished. That cathedral is something. He meant Chichester, the local big town, seven miles away... Mick says, Flash. He'd just woken up. And suddenly we had this wonderful alliterative phrase. So he woke up and we knocked it together.
- Keith Richards, July 1997
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